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Ok, so far, I'm absolutely loving this projector. It isn't without a few snags, though. I do actually find 24-30Hz material quite a bit less smooth than the Optoma HD33 that this is replacing (yes, even with the FI off on the HD33). I'm not sure if this is due to the overall brightness or the W segment of the color wheel, but I do see judder in pans a bit more severely with this unit.



Now the good, just about everything else is way beyond what I was used to viewing, including color depth. It's funny to compare to the newest BenQ HT models, when it can absolutely still blow a lot of HT projectors from a few years ago away, even though this is billed as a "Sports" or "Entertainment" projector.



I decided to pair the projector with a Silver Ticket 100" High Contrast Gray (.95 Gain) screen, and I couldn't be happier with the results! I just took some comparison photos against 1/2 of my old ST 92" Gray (1.0 Gain) screen. I like the High Contrast better with and without every light on in the living room. To lose a tad bit of brights (really miniscule) but gain noticeably deeper blacks (even with the lights out), is a revelation. I will post some random pics from YouTube nature videos that I took.



3D: I bought this projector for a couple reasons (besides the obvious jump to 4K) Wanting a brighter 3D image was right up there. I can now say that this projector/screen combo absolutely rocks for 3D, based off rewatching Alita in 3D. I first watched it in 4K, but the 3D presentation absolutely slayed the 4K one, for me. Is there a green tint with this projector? Well, I'd say that the default color temp seems a bit too warm in 3D. I found a bit too much red and green in flesh tones. I made some tweaks tov the gains, and I think it's pretty good now, but I wouldn't say that either HDR setting or 3D is perfectly calibrated. I will say that they are automatically better than the defaults that every one of my previous projectors from Infocus and Optoma have been!



My other main reason for this projector is sports. I'll wait for football season to judge, but the image with every light on is just sooo good for a projector. Pictures won't do it justice. I do not plan on leaving the light directly over my living room on, but just knowing that it can be on and I can still enjoy what I'm watching is something that I've never had the pleasure of seeing before. I'm saying this as someone who has owned a projector as my main viewing device for at least 15 years.


The TK800M, along with just about every 4K DLP besides the HT3550/HT5550, are locked at 60Hz. That means they have to perform a 3:2 pull down to display 24Hz film content. That’s probably the judder you’re seeing. I’m not super familiar with the Optoma HD33 but many 1080p DLPs supported native 24Hz capability.

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Yes.

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Should hopefully receive one ahead of it’s launch.
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Don't know if it was posted here before, but there is already a product page for the Benq TK850

https://www.benq.com/en-us/projector/home-entertainment/tk850.html
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Don't know if it was posted here before, but there is already a product page for the Benq TK850
I wonder when the stores in the US will receive it. I'm traveling to US on September and I would like to bring this boy home with me.
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Posted in the AVSforum for the first time the other day looking in the $1k range and received lots of great feedback. After continuing the exhaustive search I finally landed on the TK800M which I thought would be perfect for my setup and then I found this conversation....ahhh the wait now continues! I'm glad I didnt jump the gun with this new '850' looming but I am wondering how long I am going to be waiting???

@sage11x - I know you are sworn to secrecy but if we keep this strictly hypothetical...based on the information you may or may not know, and your vast understanding of the typical product launch in this market, at the stage we are at now how long would an expert like yourself predict that it would be before the avg consumer would have a new projector in their hands??

I am trying to practice patience here, whether I jump at the new product or take the inevitable savings of the prior model, but with the opportunity to be a first time projector owner in our new home this is a real test to wait!!

Thanks!
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Posted in the AVSforum for the first time the other day looking in the $1k range and received lots of great feedback. After continuing the exhaustive search I finally landed on the TK800M which I thought would be perfect for my setup and then I found this conversation....ahhh the wait now continues! I'm glad I didnt jump the gun with this new '850' looming but I am wondering how long I am going to be waiting???


@sage11x - I know you are sworn to secrecy but if we keep this strictly hypothetical...based on the information you may or may not know, and your vast understanding of the typical product launch in this market, at the stage we are at now how long would an expert like yourself predict that it would be before the avg consumer would have a new projector in their hands??



I am trying to practice patience here, whether I jump at the new product or take the inevitable savings of the prior model, but with the opportunity to be a first time projector owner in our new home this is a real test to wait!!



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Only thing I want is good 3D without green washout, and tone mapping as good as the ,3550.

Those 2 features on a white slice bright projector would make me truly happy
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Don't know if it was posted here before, but there is already a product page for the Benq TK850

https://www.benq.com/en-us/projector...ent/tk850.html
It is not there anymore.

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Posted in the AVSforum for the first time the other day looking in the $1k range and received lots of great feedback. After continuing the exhaustive search I finally landed on the TK800M which I thought would be perfect for my setup and then I found this conversation....ahhh the wait now continues! I'm glad I didnt jump the gun with this new '850' looming but I am wondering how long I am going to be waiting???


@sage11x - I know you are sworn to secrecy but if we keep this strictly hypothetical...based on the information you may or may not know, and your vast understanding of the typical product launch in this market, at the stage we are at now how long would an expert like yourself predict that it would be before the avg consumer would have a new projector in their hands??



I am trying to practice patience here, whether I jump at the new product or take the inevitable savings of the prior model, but with the opportunity to be a first time projector owner in our new home this is a real test to wait!!



Thanks!


BenQ’s official announcement, with any luck, should occur sometime in the next few weeks. Hang in there. As you just saw the product page is being prepped. We’re close.

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Posted in the AVSforum for the first time the other day looking in the $1k range and received lots of great feedback. After continuing the exhaustive search I finally landed on the TK800M which I thought would be perfect for my setup and then I found this conversation....ahhh the wait now continues! I'm glad I didnt jump the gun with this new '850' looming but I am wondering how long I am going to be waiting???

@sage11x - I know you are sworn to secrecy but if we keep this strictly hypothetical...based on the information you may or may not know, and your vast understanding of the typical product launch in this market, at the stage we are at now how long would an expert like yourself predict that it would be before the avg consumer would have a new projector in their hands??

I am trying to practice patience here, whether I jump at the new product or take the inevitable savings of the prior model, but with the opportunity to be a first time projector owner in our new home this is a real test to wait!!

Thanks!
I am assuming the tk850 will cost $1500 or more at launch. Just saying if your limit is about $1k...

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I am assuming the tk850 will cost $1500 or more at launch. Just saying if your limit is about $1k...
$1k was the original budget but then I convinced myself the TK800M was the way to go, so that budget had to come up a little bit lol ...now the question will be, does it just save me money because the TK800M drops in price or do I convince myself the TK850 is the way to go and the budget increases again?
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Benq TK850



HDR, (HDR10, HLG)

4 segment (RGBW)
Rec.709 Coverage
98%
Brightness (ANSI lumens)
3000

Benq took it down but it's googled cached

https://webcache.googleusercontent.c...&ct=clnk&gl=se
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Not getting 120 hz

So I've had the Benq TK800M for about two weeks and I enjoy it. I have a Roku connected via HDMI fiber cable. When the projector turns on, it automatically detects 2160p @ 60Hz. How do I get 120Hz ? The projector specs say 120Hz. The cable that I have says 4K @ 60hz. Should I get a cable that says 4k @ 120 Hz instead?
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So I've had the Benq TK800M for about two weeks and I enjoy it. I have a Roku connected via HDMI fiber cable. When the projector turns on, it automatically detects 2160p @ 60Hz. How do I get 120Hz ? The projector specs say 120Hz. The cable that I have says 4K @ 60hz. Should I get a cable that says 4k @ 120 Hz instead?
Can your Roku send a 120hz signal?

120hz is only for 1080p, IIRC.
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What is the difference between 800M and 850M, HLG?!

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So I've had the Benq TK800M for about two weeks and I enjoy it. I have a Roku connected via HDMI fiber cable. When the projector turns on, it automatically detects 2160p @ 60Hz. How do I get 120Hz ? The projector specs say 120Hz. The cable that I have says 4K @ 60hz. Should I get a cable that says 4k @ 120 Hz instead?


As Dun points out— there is no 4K 120Hz. 4K 60Hz is the current limit.

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What is the difference between 800M and 850M, HLG?!

The 850 is a higher end projector and will cost more than the 800M. The 850 will use the same chassis as the HT3550 and will feature that models shorter lens throw, zoom range and lens shift. It will also include the 4K MEMC feature (frame insertion/ interpolation) that was introduced on the HT3550. It will lack some of the HT3550’s advanced home theater features in exchange for brighter lumen output.

That’s about all I can say at this point.
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The 850 is a higher end projector and will cost more than the 800M. The 850 will use the same chassis as the HT3550 and will feature that models shorter lens throw, zoom range and lens shift. It will also include the 4K MEMC feature (frame insertion/ interpolation) that was introduced on the HT3550. It will lack some of the HT3550’s advanced home theater features in exchange for brighter lumen output.

That’s about all I can say at this point.
Possibly true 1080p 120Hz 60/60 3D with FI... not confirmed but would be brilliant.

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The 850 is a higher end projector and will cost more than the 800M. The 850 will use the same chassis as the HT3550 and will feature that models shorter lens throw, zoom range and lens shift. It will also include the 4K MEMC feature (frame insertion/ interpolation) that was introduced on the HT3550. It will lack some of the HT3550’s advanced home theater features in exchange for brighter lumen output.

That’s about all I can say at this point.

And according to the Product Page "HDR Tone Mapping" ...
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If it has the same throw as the 3550 I may as well pick up an 800M
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The 850 is a higher end projector and will cost more than the 800M. The 850 will use the same chassis as the HT3550 and will feature that models shorter lens throw, zoom range and lens shift. It will also include the 4K MEMC feature (frame insertion/ interpolation) that was introduced on the HT3550. It will lack some of the HT3550’s advanced home theater features in exchange for brighter lumen output.

That’s about all I can say at this point.
I hope they keep the wcg filter even if it doesn't work the same as on the ht3550. Sacrificing some lumens when not needed in exchange for any kind of color upgrade would be great on one of these bright pjs. I would probably use the filter for everything but 3d (only reason for me to hold out for a brighter pj).


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LOL, I should clarify that was pure speculation on my part (wishful thinking).

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LOL, I should clarify that was pure speculation on my part (wishful thinking).

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I didn't think it was fact, but I at least thought you'd heard a rumor or had some basis to guess on. Hopes crushed

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I didn't think it was fact, but I at least thought you'd heard a rumor or had some basis to guess on. Hopes crushed
Sorry, there are still some things floating around but that was not one of them, I was just testing sage.

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The 850 is a higher end projector and will cost more than the 800M. The 850 will use the same chassis as the HT3550 and will feature that models shorter lens throw, zoom range and lens shift. It will also include the 4K MEMC feature (frame insertion/ interpolation) that was introduced on the HT3550. It will lack some of the HT3550’s advanced home theater features in exchange for brighter lumen output.

Sounds like a hybrid between the 800M and the HT3550 / W2700.


IIRC you mentioned some while ago that there might be eventually a brighter HT3550 but in the light of the coming 850 I can't help but wonder whether that'll be necessary or rather cause confusion and uncertainty.

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Sounds like a hybrid between the 800M and the HT3550 / W2700.


IIRC you mentioned some while ago that there might be eventually a brighter HT3550 but in the light of the coming 850 I can't help but wonder whether that'll be necessary or rather cause confusion and uncertainty.
It was my understanding that the 850 IS the bright variant of the ht3550.
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Since it's better to have asked and failed than not have asked at all, there's one particular feature I'd love to see implemented:


Many Optoma models (at least in the past, I'm admittedly not up-to-date) featured "digital image shift", i.e. to move the image electronically via remote and menu up or down on the DMD micromirror-chip.


I found this feature incredibly useful for applications with 21:9 (2.35:1) program materials, e.g. you could get rid of at least one of the letterbox bars by electronically lowering the 21:9 image segment to the bottom edge of your screen - and thus bringing it closer to your speaker system successfully eliminating the acoustic "gap" that's otherwise caused by the bottom letterbox bar...

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Sounds like a hybrid between the 800M and the HT3550 / W2700.


IIRC you mentioned some while ago that there might be eventually a brighter HT3550 but in the light of the coming 850 I can't help but wonder whether that'll be necessary or rather cause confusion and uncertainty.


The 850 is the ‘bright version’ of the HT3550. It is literally the same chassis.

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The 850 is the ‘bright version’ of the HT3550. It is literally the same chassis.

Any news When we can Pre-order the TK850 ? I hope before September

I don't know why, but i feel the price will be at 2000$ i hope not
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