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post #121 of 137 Old 08-22-2019, 11:15 AM
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Any news When we can Pre-order the TK850 ? I hope before September

I don't know why, but i feel the price will be at 2000$ i hope not
I'm guessing $1,500 - making it more than the 800M and the same as the 3550.
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So I've been using my TK800M for about 1 month now. Love this thing. But I do have a question for any other TK800M owners here. Do you have a setting recommendation that fixes that "grainy" look you sometimes see with certain 4K HDR flics. Not all do it, but for some the image seems very grainy. I only see this with videos and not gaming. All my Xbox One X 4K games look crystal clear and beautiful.

For movies I am using the "Cinema" brightness setting. I have tried some other settings but the grainy image persists.

Any suggestions?
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So I've been using my TK800M for about 1 month now. Love this thing. But I do have a question for any other TK800M owners here. Do you have a setting recommendation that fixes that "grainy" look you sometimes see with certain 4K HDR flics. Not all do it, but for some the image seems very grainy. I only see this with videos and not gaming. All my Xbox One X 4K games look crystal clear and beautiful.



For movies I am using the "Cinema" brightness setting. I have tried some other settings but the grainy image persists.



Any suggestions?


That graininess is probably... grain. Many high quality 4K transfers of older films or modern movies that were actually filmed on 35mm or even 70mm (Mission Impossible Fallout and Dunkirk for example) do a good job of retaining the film grain. This is something I actually love about 4K Blu-ray when combined with a large format 4K display— it actually looks like FILM. But I can understand if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. Especially if you’ve grown accustomed to the slick gloss of modern genre films like the Marvel movies. HD Blu-ray never quite had the resolution to pull this off so the grain either looked like noise or was just smudged away.

If it’s not the source then it could be you’re a little more sensitive to the pixel shift than most.
I don’t remember but does this TK800M have a 4K pixel enhanced feature? If so you might want to turn that down or even off.

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I believe it's time for a TK850 devoted thread, soon.


And hopefully with a short overview of his specifications compared to its siblings.
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I believe it's time for a TK850 devoted thread, soon.


And hopefully with a short overview of his specifications compared to its siblings.

I agree we need to talk about TK850 more now
the 98% Rec with the 3000 lumens the HDR will be insane
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I agree we need to talk about TK850 more now
the 98% Rec with the 3000 lumens the HDR will be insane


Actually, the 98% coverage is touted for Rec709 NOT the wider color gamut of DCI-P3. But it’s true that the higher lumen output, specifically white output, is somewhat beneficial to providing that HDR effect as it tends to produce a higher contrast number. Still, if you’re looking for a projector that handles HDR better than most it’s the HT3550– the BenQ HT3550 and Epson 4010 are currently the only models below $2K to offer DCI-P3 support through the use of a wide color filter. That’s a big advantage if you’re considering the HDR capabilities of the projector. Of course the HT3550 is more suited to a dim/dark room especially if you plan on using the filter. But that’s pretty much a fact of life with all wide color gamut projectors save some of the ultra high dollar models.
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The TK800M seems more reliable(read no issues), than the HT3550?

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I believe it's time for a TK850 devoted thread, soon.


And hopefully with a short overview of his specifications compared to its siblings.


I’ll be more than happy to make one detailing the specifics... when I’m able to share.
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The TK800M seems more reliable(read no issues), than the HT3550?


The TK800M has far fewer features than the HT3550 and it has the benefit of being a follow up to an existing model that had been in production for a full year. At this point, yes, the TK800M is pretty bullet proof.

But don’t let that dissuade you from the HT3550. Most of the issues I’m seeing in the HT3550 thread are QC issues that will be apparent right away. Plus BenQ packages it with a 3 year warranty and BenQ has a very good reputation there. There are also, obviously, plenty of owners with problem free HT3550s.

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Am excited to see what the TK850 has to offer. I was ready to buy an HT3550 but was scared off due to all of the “suited To dim/dark rooms” comments. My room is a mixed use room but can be made dim/dark when it needs to be. I currently have a W1070 and and in an ideal world would have a drop-in replacement that supports UHD, and better colour. HDR would be a bonus. If the 3550 had the exact same brightness as the W1070 with the colour filter engaged that would be great, but I don’t think that is the case...
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That graininess is probably... grain. Many high quality 4K transfers of older films or modern movies that were actually filmed on 35mm or even 70mm (Mission Impossible Fallout and Dunkirk for example) do a good job of retaining the film grain. This is something I actually love about 4K Blu-ray when combined with a large format 4K display— it actually looks like FILM. But I can understand if it’s not everyone’s cup of tea. Especially if you’ve grown accustomed to the slick gloss of modern genre films like the Marvel movies. HD Blu-ray never quite had the resolution to pull this off so the grain either looked like noise or was just smudged away.

If it’s not the source then it could be you’re a little more sensitive to the pixel shift than most.
I don’t remember but does this TK800M have a 4K pixel enhanced feature? If so you might want to turn that down or even off.
Ok, that makes sense due to the fact it is only on some films and not all of them. Some make really nice looking actresses look a bit haggard. I'll bet movie stars hate this 4K thing.
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Still waiting on that 850, wish they'd hint something
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Still waiting on that 850, wish they'd hint something
the IFA in Berlin starts this friday. from what i understood, it will be presented there.
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the IFA in Berlin starts this friday. from what i understood, it will be presented there.
That would b awesome, then we'll be all awaiting the actual release
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That graininess is probably... grain. Many high quality 4K transfers of older films or modern movies that were actually filmed on 35mm or even 70mm (Mission Impossible Fallout and Dunkirk for example) do a good job of retaining the film grain. .
Unfortunately Benq has had a "grainy" picture from the Beginning,its first DLP HD projector, the w5000 in 2008. The 6000 also had it too,although I would descibe it as "noise" instead of "grain". Benq's are sharp;but, just because something is Sharp does not mean there is no noise/"grain" The "noise/grain " is manufactured,for lack of a better term. Compared to better HD pj's out there some of those (.9 Dmd Sharp, Marantz, Samsung, ect) have no added noise introduced.

The Benq's are not anywhere near the best in HD. Heck, These 4K Benq projectors are still suffering from green bleed that was present in their first Full HD 1980x1080 projectors. In side by side comparisons projectors made prior to 4K, one can easily see the difference from .9 dmd projectors that really had a clean look.Those projectors did not add noise like the Benq's did in the past.. Now Frookster is seeing the same issues that have been present since 2008. Noise. It;s a wonder how this issue has not been permanently eradicated. Just horrible. Only you Frookster,can decide what is relevant. You have a 4K projector at reasonable pricing that only exhibits minor/major noise in the image. You can request a warranty claim. Doing so is akin to playing with fire. The replacement pj may burn you in other matters. You asked for owners to respond. I have owned both the 5000 and 6000 along with Samsung, NEC, Optoma, Davis, Sharp, and even a viewsonic. I can only tell you what trends I see from both owning Benq projectors compared to all of the other pj's owned.
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Any word on that 850?
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Any word on that 850?
it s 'revealed' but not yet for sale
there is a dedicated thread for it.
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