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First manufacturer to bring 3LCD laser projector with generous lens shift and UHD 4K (native or otherwise) and under $4000, will get my money. Until then, I'll keep milking my Sony lamp based projector.
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We haven't sent out confirmations yet.
Good day to everyone. When will confirmations go out for this event?
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First manufacturer to bring 3LCD laser projector with generous lens shift and UHD 4K (native or otherwise) and under $4000, will get my money. Until then, I'll keep milking my Sony lamp based projector.

You can probably find an Epson LS10000 or LS10500 that meet that criteria for about that much now.
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Would love to attend this event and I'm local. I should have no excuses. I have a few meetings that day that might make it a challenge.
Wish it started at 6PM. Arrggghhh.
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You can probably find an Epson LS10000 or LS10500 that meet that criteria for about that much now.
You would think, but the closest I could find is the Epson LS10500, from Epson clearance center refeurb for $4550, and Epson don't make it easy to purchase from them with limited payment options and "No returns" policy.
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The wait to get a native 4K projector under $5,000 has been nothing short of hilarious. What's another couple of years at this point?

Yeah, we all know how great the pixel-shifters are.

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Actually he made another post in the 3,000+ forum and said that is technically the appropriate forum, so here is to hoping!
All the hints tells me 6050. Posted here because you can buy the 5050 for under 3K, but should be listed in the 3k plus forum, because the 6050 is above 3k.
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That’s my best guess, as well. I wonder if Epson has added any features to distinguish the 6050 from it’s older brother. Traditionally it has just been a black case, extra bulb and a cheap mount. I’m wondering if Epson has used the extra time to add a few features, besides maybe a few extra memory slots.

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Given the new pricing of the X790, the 6050 just seems a non starter unless they can price it under 3K. The X790 has put a ton of downward pressure on 4k pixel shifters, so thsts why I'm thinking some sort of true 4K projector will be the reveal. A $4000 True 4K 6050 (7050?) could be decent competition for the pixel shifting x790, especially for gamers where pixel shifting doesn't quite work out.

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Given the new pricing of the X790, the 6050 just seems a non starter unless they can price it under 3K. The X790 has put a ton of downward pressure on 4k pixel shifters, so thsts why I'm thinking some sort of true 4K projector will be the reveal. A $4000 True 4K 6050 (7050?) could be decent competition for the pixel shifting x790, especially for gamers where pixel shifting doesn't quite work out.

Yep, if they could MSRP a real 4K model under 4k that would end up "streeting" around $3.6, they would sell a ton of them.

I'm thinking/hoping next year, finally, but I hope to be wrong.

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and a cheap mount.
Since when have Chief mounts been cheap
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My bad. I have no direct experience with the included mounts, so I should not have disparaged their quality.


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Given the new pricing of the X790, the 6050 just seems a non starter unless they can price it under 3K. The X790 has put a ton of downward pressure on 4k pixel shifters, so thsts why I'm thinking some sort of true 4K projector will be the reveal. A $4000 True 4K 6050 (7050?) could be decent competition for the pixel shifting x790, especially for gamers where pixel shifting doesn't quite work out.
I hope people aren't too disappointed when the 6050 is unveiled on Tuesday. I love my 5050 and think the 6050 will be just a tad bit darker with a slightly crisper picture. But I really don't expect True 4K from Epson at the expected price point of the 6050. True 4k from Epson is probably going to be in the $5K-$8K range depending upon the features. My guess would be three models similar to the JVC true 4k lineup. 2020 will hopefully be the year. In the meantime you really cannot beat the price/performance proposition of this year's Epson Home Cinema Projector line IMHO.
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Hmm... will this be under $3k? If so, I’m interested.
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Hmm... will this be under $3k? If so, I’m interested.
Will not be under $3K. Sold through authorized dealers includes mount, spare lamp and a third warranty year so certainly priced significantly higher than the 5050UB.
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EPSON 6050 ANNOUNCEMENT

https://epson.com/For-Home/Projector...p/V11H928020MB

So the 6050 has officially been announced. Some differences from the 5050:

5050 has 1,000,000 to 1 contrast
6050 has 1,200,000 to 1 contrast

6050 and 5050 both have second generation HDR processor and pixel shift processor compared to the 5040. The 6050 comes with a free lamp and mount and adds a 3rd year of warranty. MSRP IS $3,999 and is typically only sold through installers not directly to consumers.

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EPSON 6050 ANNOUNCEMENT

https://epson.com/For-Home/Projector...p/V11H928020MB

So the 6050 has officially been announced. Some differences from the 5050:

5050 has 1,000,000 to 1 contrast
6050 has 1,200,000 to 1 contrast

6050 has second generation HDR processor and pixel shift processor compared to the 5050. Presumably this may provide an even sharper and more dynamic image than the 5050. The 6050 comes with a free lamp and mount and adds a 3rd year of warranty. MSRP IS $3,999 and is typically only sold through installers not directly to consumers.
Just what I thought it would be, not disappointed. Sounds like a great projector. Though this does show this won't be the big announcement at the event.

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EPSON 6050 ANNOUNCEMENT

https://epson.com/For-Home/Projector...p/V11H928020MB

So the 6050 has officially been announced. Some differences from the 5050:

5050 has 1,000,000 to 1 contrast
6050 has 1,200,000 to 1 contrast

6050 has second generation HDR processor and pixel shift processor compared to the 5050. Presumably this may provide an even sharper and more dynamic image than the 5050. The 6050 comes with a free lamp and mount and adds a 3rd year of warranty. MSRP IS $3,999 and is typically only sold through installers not directly to consumers.
Just what I thought it would be, not disappointed. Sounds like a great projector. Though this does show this won't be the big announcement at the event.
I am not sure why the 6050 being announced today would lead you to believe that this IS NOT the announcement.

It would be strange to me if they demonstrated another yet unknown projector from Epson at the event today. The only reason I am not 100% sold that the 6050 is the sole projector being announced and demonstrated today is the engineer being flown in and the release we are required to sign. I could speculate that seems like overkill for just the latest pro version in this existing projector lineup from Epson.

Don't get me wrong I believe they offer the best bang for your buck but I would think flying in a Japanese engineer would be something you do for your first true 4K home cinema projector not your latest pixel shifter. So here's to hoping you are right and there is something besides the 6050UB at the demo. That would explain all the secrecy and hoopla.

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I am not sure why the 6050 being announced today would lead you to believe that this IS NOT the announcement.

It would be strange to me if they demonstrated another yet unknown projector from Epson at the event today. The only reason I am not 100% sold that the 6050 is the sole projector being announced and demonstrated today is the engineer being flown in and the release we are required to sign. I could speculate that seems like overkill for just the latest pro version in this existing projector lineup from Epson.

Don't get me wrong I believe they offer the best bang for your buck but I would think flying in a Japanese engineer would be something you do for your first true 4K home cinema projector not your latest pixel shifter. So here's to hoping you are right and there is something besides the 6050UB at the demo. That would explain all the secrecy and hoopla.

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When getting my PJ calibrated Gordon said that Epson were due to replace the LS10500 in January but that date had come and gone, I got the impression that this replacement was imminent and he believed it would be a Native 4K Laser. I reckon this will be the machine you are talking about.

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https://epson.com/For-Home/Projector...p/V11H928020MB

So the 6050 has officially been announced. Some differences from the 5050:

5050 has 1,000,000 to 1 contrast
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6050 has second generation HDR processor and pixel shift processor compared to the 5050. Presumably this may provide an even sharper and more dynamic image than the 5050. The 6050 comes with a free lamp and mount and adds a 3rd year of warranty. MSRP IS $3,999 and is typically only sold through installers not directly to consumers.
Just what I thought it would be, not disappointed. Sounds like a great projector. Though this does show this won't be the big announcement at the event.
I am not sure why the 6050 being announced today would lead you to believe that this IS NOT the announcement.

It would be strange to me if they demonstrated another yet unknown projector from Epson at the event today. The only reason I am not 100% sold that the 6050 is the sole projector being announced and demonstrated today is the engineer being flown in and the release we are required to sign. I could speculate that seems like overkill for just the latest pro version in this existing projector lineup from Epson.

Don't get me wrong I believe they offer the best bang for your buck but I would think flying in a Japanese engineer would be something you do for your first true 4K home cinema projector not your latest pixel shifter. So here's to hoping you are right and there is something besides the 6050UB at the demo. That would explain all the secrecy and hoopla.

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All good points. I'm sure this will be shown, and I truly hope you're right, that they do finally announce a true 4k projector that can compete with JVC and Sony. &#x1f642; That would be very exciting!

I'm thinking the 6050UB can't be the big announcement because they posted all the specs on the site before the event, which seems like a very anti climactic move just before your secretive event.

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I am not sure why the 6050 being announced today would lead you to believe that this IS NOT the announcement.

It would be strange to me if they demonstrated another yet unknown projector from Epson at the event today. The only reason I am not 100% sold that the 6050 is the sole projector being announced and demonstrated today is the engineer being flown in and the release we are required to sign. I could speculate that seems like overkill for just the latest pro version in this existing projector lineup from Epson.

Don't get me wrong I believe they offer the best bang for your buck but I would think flying in a Japanese engineer would be something you do for your first true 4K home cinema projector not your latest pixel shifter. So here's to hoping you are right and there is something besides the 6050UB at the demo. That would explain all the secrecy and hoopla.

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When getting my PJ calibrated Gordon said that Epson were due to replace the LS10500 in January but that date had come and gone, I got the impression that this replacement was imminent and he believed it would be a Native 4K Laser. I reckon this will be the machine you are talking about.
Oh don't tease me like that luminated67!!!

An Epson native 4K laser projector? That sounds like unicorn to me LOL! In all seriousness that would be amazing to view this evening at the projector event. That would explain all the secrecy and the waiver will have to sign and the Japanese engineer being flown in for the event. Either that or the 6050 is so amazing they felt the Japanese engineer should be able to see the people's reactions to the amazing projector he created. It should be a great event regardless of which projector they are demonstrating. I mean the only true 4K laser projector I know that's under $35,000 is the JVC 4500. I would assume the Epson true 4K laser projector if it actually exists would have to be in a similar price range.
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I for one am enjoying the mystery. I have owned a few epsons in the past. I am currently enjoying my 3rd JVC which i am very happy with except for the occasional issues with motion judder. I have not seen any of the newer epsons and will be glad to see how this new 6050 compares to my 2 year old jvc 520. I look forward to meeting everyone and would not be opposed to having a drink with anyone after the event is over.

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Screen width is 150".

I am clarifying my question:

Setting the sharpness, colors, contrast, brightness and all factors other than the pixel resolution aside, I would like to know if there is a discernible and visible difference between the "faux" 4k of Epson, vs "real" 4k of lcos in terms of viewable pixel resolution, on a screen of about 150" wide, viewing distance of 22 ft.

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FWIW, I just replaced an Epson 5040 with a JVC RS2000 in my theater with a 150" wide 1.3 gain (microperf) scope screen. I primarily sit at 11 feet, but my back row is at 17.5 feet.

The increase in sharpness is "discernible" with 4k UHD media, but not "significantly". Even not having compared the two "A to B" I can tell the JVC is sharper and more detail is on the screen. But I don't think resolution is solely responsible for the improvements I have seen

You are throwing all other factors other than resolution aside, but what I am saying is even if you take resolution out of the picture, the Epson could never compete with the JVC in terms of overall picture quality. I hate to even say that because I really thought my Epson threw a spectacular image. I didn't upgrade for better picture quality, and even though I expected a slight difference that nobody other than myself would even notice, it wasn't the case at all. Even my girlfriend is blown away by how much better everything looks. And I mean everything, including 1080p content that is upscaled. I attribute this to far more than the 4k panel. A better lens, better color uniformity, and of course significantly better contrast all makes the image better on the JVC. No amount of calibrating would change this, and at best you would have to purposefully make the JVC worse to be able to compare resolution without all the other factors.

That being said, I think it is important to note that having a theater with a larger screen meant I was always wanting more lumens. The thought of a 12k lumen projector was simply delicious, especially after viewing HDR with the Epson stock HDR profiles. But to be brutally honest, I no longer consider it a necessity to have over 2k calibrated lumens. The adjustable tone mapping in the JVC has made me realize that I don't need 40fL to enjoy HDR, and even 15fL is enough. I did buy a Paladin DCR lens to go with the JVC, and that has of course helped, as does the 1.3 gain screen, but even so, I bet I have less than 1700 lumens hitting my screen in total, and I bet I am under 20fL. I am even able to use the P3 color filter in the JVC and I am not feeling like I don't have enough lumens. The image is spectacular, and more than bright enough.

I don't know your screen gain, but I wouldn't lock myself into feeling like the only option is a super bright projector that either costs a fortune or lacks features and contrast. I've never seen the BenQ in person, so I can't say if it is sharper or of the lumen output can compete with the overall image quality of the JVC, but I can say the JVC makes me stop thinking about Epson as a viable upgrade in the future. Perhaps if they get a 5k+ lumen laser based LCoS in the future for a reasonable price, I would consider it, but only if I either had a good external solution for tone mapping all my UHD sources, or if they could get on the bandwagon and implement tone mapping at least as good as the JVC.
Thanks for the comparison but you're in the poor projector forum, I looked up with false hoping to find the JVC a little in the price range but it's not. Gladly a projector that costs 3 times as much has noticeable improvements, but I think it also speaks to the Epson. It sounds like you noticed a difference and appreciate it, but also weren't blown away and missed a week of work because you've found nirvana. Regardless thanks for sharing, I've been considering that Epson or the 3550, or maybe a used eshift JVC, it's been 7 years since my last projector and it's nice to see technology moving along.
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Oh don't tease me like that luminated67!!!

An Epson native 4K laser projector? That sounds like unicorn to me LOL! In all seriousness that would be amazing to view this evening at the projector event. That would explain all the secrecy and the waiver will have to sign and the Japanese engineer being flown in for the event. Either that or the 6050 is so amazing they felt the Japanese engineer should be able to see the people's reactions to the amazing projector he created. It should be a great event regardless of which projector they are demonstrating. I mean the only true 4K laser projector I know that's under $35,000 is the JVC 4500. I would assume the Epson true 4K laser projector if it actually exists would have to be in a similar price range.
I had heard rumors of such a machine on here and was surprised that Gordon commented on such a machine too and as he's in the trade being the distributor for Lumagen in Europe and reckon this must be more than simply a pipe dream. Though he reckon price will be about £10K if or when it arrives so very much out of my budget.

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An Epson native 4K laser projector? That sounds like unicorn to me LOL! In all seriousness that would be amazing to view this evening at the projector event. That would explain all the secrecy and the waiver will have to sign and the Japanese engineer being flown in for the event. Either that or the 6050 is so amazing they felt the Japanese engineer should be able to see the people's reactions to the amazing projector he created. It should be a great event regardless of which projector they are demonstrating. I mean the only true 4K laser projector I know that's under $35,000 is the JVC 4500. I would assume the Epson true 4K laser projector if it actually exists would have to be in a similar price range.
I had heard rumors of such a machine on here and was surprised that Gordon commented on such a machine too and as he's in the trade being the distributor for Lumagen in Europe and reckon this must be more than simply a pipe dream. Though he reckon price will be about &#163;10K if or when it arrives so very much out of my budget.
That would be very much out of my budget range as well in terms of US dollars but would be an amazing price point for a true 4K laser projector that could compete with the 4500 from JVC. One can only dream that I would be able to see it tonight.
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Thanks for the comparison but you're in the poor projector forum, I looked up with false hoping to find the JVC a little in the price range but it's not. Gladly a projector that costs 3 times as much has noticeable improvements, but I think it also speaks to the Epson. It sounds like you noticed a difference and appreciate it, but also weren't blown away and missed a week of work because you've found nirvana. Regardless thanks for sharing, I've been considering that Epson or the 3550, or maybe a used eshift JVC, it's been 7 years since my last projector and it's nice to see technology moving along.
The thread started in the $3k+ and was moved. The 5050 retails for $3k, the 6050 is higher, so if this is the projector they are talking about, it is questionable which forum it should be in. Also, the 12k lumen projector the guy I was quoting was asking about is a $20k+ projector and was looking at the $60k Sony 5000es, and my whole point of the post was to say that with good tone mapping, you don't necessarily need to step into the 4k+ lumen projectors to get good HDR any more. The need for 30fL for HDR is ending, and the JVC's are the first to do that for any 4k source with their built in tone mapping.

But I get your point and you are right, if you are stuck with a budget under $3k, then you don't have a native 4k LCoS option, and e-shifters are it. And for the money, the 5040 (and I am sure the 5050) is without question, the best you can get at the price point. And it isn't like you are really sacrificing a lot, just a lot of incremental improvements that definitely sum up to be worth the added cost, but aren't deal breakers at the price point.
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I do not know the exact day, but we all know the 6050 starts shipping in May.

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Confirmed, Epson 6050.
Has been confirmed, that it is the 6050 being introduced at this event.
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...projector.html
So it is just the 6050. Somebody needs to sneak an X790R into the event so we can get a head to head comparison. Unless the 6050 can come close to the X790s performance, an extra lamp and mount isn't compelling enough to choose this one over the JVC. Maybe the updated processing in the 6050 can provide a better image... maybe.

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