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Looking to upgrade my Sony 45ES projector to 4K.

I just saw the Epson 5050UB projector came out. I'm wondering if it would be worth while ordering one and trying it out. I'm just getting the itch to see some 4K programming which I have on Netflix and Amazon. Hope someone can give me some opinions of which route to go.
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I personally don't think streaming 4K is going to be a big improvement to invest in a $3k projector over what you have. If you were playing UHD Blu-Ray maybe it would be more of an upgrade. The Epson is still a 1080p projector with a 2x shift so only half 4k resolution. It will be brighter and sharper then your Sony with about the same contrast so that alone may make it more appealing. If you don't need the power lens memory its of no value to you. A JVC or Sony 4K would be the next big step but also more $.



Edit: Going from LCOS to LCD may be a down grade as the pixel fill (screen door effect) is much worse on LCD but the 2x shift helps a lot.

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I just saw the Epson 5050UB projector came out. I'm wondering if it would be worth while ordering one and trying it out. I'm just getting the itch to see some 4K programming which I have on Netflix and Amazon. Hope someone can give me some opinions of which route to go.
A few of us over in the UK have made the switch from the Sony to the new Epson, I did it from the HW45es and another member on AVForum did it with your HW40es, the only downside of the switch was noise from the machine itself, nothing in my opinion is as quiet as the Sony in ECO mode but that said once you are watching a movie you definitely can't hear it and from most movies you won't hear the Medium mode either.

In my opinion everything else has been a major bonus, we discussed the screen door effect at length over on the other forum and I took images from by 100" screen at 8ft, 4ft, 2ft and 1ft, you could notice the pixels at the 2ft & 1ft point for sure and at 4ft I struggled to notice anything but at 8ft no way, it just looks super crisp. Contrast is superior, don't believe the numbers because it's simply better and you also gain so much more like able to play 4K and HDR which is currently one of the very few able to be faithful to the colours on offer.

But don't take my word check out Swiftpete on AVForum for his opinion too.

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I was hoping that the 5050UB was much brighter and sharper. I also was kicking around maybe just investing the $3,000 into a 82 inch TV for the wall and an electric ceiling projector screen, when I want to watch a movie. A TV picture is so much sharper then projection in my opinion. Your opinions help a lot. Thank You
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I was hoping that the 5050UB was much brighter and sharper. I also was kicking around maybe just investing the $3,000 into a 82 inch TV for the wall and an electric ceiling projector screen, when I want to watch a movie. A TV picture is so much sharper then projection in my opinion. Your opinions help a lot. Thank You
It really depends on the room, before I upgraded the main family room’s TV to an OLED my Sony LED TV had less contrast than my Epson in my bar cave...it’s a proper cat cave in that the walls and ceiling are covered in black velour with grey carpet.

I agree that a TV will be sharper but here’s the funny thing, there’s a sweet spot where sharpness is seen and beyond this point you really can’t tell if it’s 1080p you are looking at or 4K. I’m willing to bet that if you sat 10.5ft from that 82” TV you will think Epson viewed on my 100” screen from the same distance will look sharper.

Now if $3K buys you an OLED in 82” then it’s picture is truly in a different league. And yet I still much prefer to watch a movie, sporting event or favourite TV series (GoT) on the projector, size is everything despite what I tell the wife.

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... A TV picture is so much sharper then projection in my opinion. ...
The impression that a TV image is sharper than a projected image is heavily influenced by image size. A smaller image inherently appears sharper than a larger image with the same number of pixels, so naturally a smaller TV image will appear to be sharper than a larger projected image. If you reverse the size differential and, for example, compare a 50" diagonal projected image to a 100" TV image with the same resolution the smaller projected image can appear to be sharper.
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I will check out the Epson 5050UB
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Here’s a few photos I took from my TW9400 (5050ub)

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wza4okjse...9ggeMVtLa?dl=0

All the images are from 1080p Blurays that have been upscaled. Everyone who sees mine are actually shocked by the detail, they just assume what they see at the cinema is the best that a projector can be.

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Hi Everyone,
We have used our 45ES projector for about 1800 hrs over 2.5 years in high lamp mode. The picture brightness got dimmer recently. I know advertised 6000 hrs is for low mode but for high mode , is it like 1/3 ?
Anyone had any similar experience?
What replacement lamp do you recommend?
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