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Thought I knew which projector I wanted, but i guess not...?

Hello everyone,

I was pretty convinced that I wanted the Optoma UHD50 after hearing amazing things about it for the price and being able to get 4k at such a low price. However, upon further analysis, I realized that the closest I would be sitting to my 150" screen would be maybe 16' and that would be a stretch, more like 18' or more (just the layout of the room and doorways get in the way, etc), so I figure its not worth getting 4k.

Therefore, after some more research, I decided on the Epson 2150. The reviews are glowing about it (given its price point) and it seems like its pretty much everything I would need, foregoing the 4k obviously.

Fastforward a lot of research on here and some other review sites, etc and I am also seeing that Epson is offering the refurbished Epson 5040 for like $1100 (which is well received here) and I also hear great things on these message boards about the Sony VPL-HW45ES which i'm seeing places for about $1300--$1400 (or $1200 refurb).

To give you background, my basement room is about 11.5'x25' so its narrow and long, but very good light control with only a small window towards the front of the room (perpendicular right to the screen) but that has a blackout shade on it, so no issue there. Ceiling and lower half of the walls are currently white but I'm thinking of changing that to a black ceiling and TBD dark color bottom 1/2 wall (top half is a dark magenta). I am thinking milliskin spandex white over black based on some good discussions here, but may be open to Silver Ticket/Delux Screen Matte, etc.

I know I'm all over the place with the projectors but I want to buy without buyer's remorse. I'm guessing i'd be happy with any of these 4, but I'm looking to see what you guys thing overall provides the best picture of these (or comment on any you have experience with).



Thanks for your help.
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The Epson 5040 or the Sony are both great choices over the 2150 if your going to darken the room. If the power lens memory won't be used the 5040 might be over kill and with the hassle of returning several with Epson's very poor quality control on their refurbs the Sony may be a very good option.

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Theres also the hdr aspect of 4k that should steer you towards the newer projectors over just resolution.
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Thanks for your reply.


It sounds like the 5040 might be a little much projector for what I need. I don't mind spending the extra money, but it sounds like Epson refurbs have their share of issues as well and I don't have time to deal with hassles.


The other one I was considering was the Epson 3700. that seems to be just slightly more than the 2150 for some extra lumens and perhaps better contrast and black levels?
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The other one I was considering was the Epson 3700. that seems to be just slightly more than the 2150 for some extra lumens and perhaps better contrast and black levels?


I picked up the 3700 last week on sale and I couldn’t be happier.

FYI..This is my first projector purchase and I still don’t have it mounted permanently. Have it set on a table and throwing the image to a white wall.

Went this model mostly for the bang for the buck I was getting. Needed a unit to use in a family room that’s attached to a kitchen, that was bright, had good colors and picture, that offered flexible placement and didn’t break the bank.

The 3700 was the one that checked all the boxes.
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Thanks Lodolfan.


I'm leaning more and more towards the 3700. I love the idea of buying brand new vs dealing with the (potential) hassle of 5040 refurb (I have no doubt its a much better projector). And it sounds like for a couple of hundred more than the 2150, it will allow me the ability to keep at least some shades open or the lights on and still have a respectable image if I want!
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I would recommend a 4k projector for the greater color gamut and sharpness of the image. Maybe consider the Epson 5050UB (a 2k eshifter I believe). It should have no problems with lighting up that screen from that seating distance with great colors and brightness. I don't think 4k is overkill at all. Now, if you want great contrast and black levels too, you should consider stepping up toa JVC NX5 or NX7, or a used Sony VW695ES perhaps.
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m0j0, it seems like beyond apples and oranges, no? Even the cheapest suggestion, the 5050, is over $2500! I would HOPE its miles above these $1000ish projectors I'm talking about.


And the JVC and Sony projectors, aren't those in the $5k-$10k range? I'm assuming even the used Sony is going to a minimum of $3-$5 k for something that high end.


I'm all for looking at various options, but not for 2-10 times what I'm looking to spend!
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How about the benq tk800?

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A brilliant starting point to home cinema is the Sony HW45, believe it or not the 1080P image it throws isn’t that different to my Epson TW9400 (6050) and it’s only when you feed the Epson a high quality UHD 4K disc that the difference is image sharpness becomes noticeable.

What the Sony does extremely well is out of the box colour and it has really decent contrast. If you can get one for $1200-1300 new it’s the way I would go and put the extra into your Sound system.

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Hello everyone,

I was pretty convinced that I wanted the Optoma UHD50 after hearing amazing things about it for the price and being able to get 4k at such a low price. However, upon further analysis, I realized that the closest I would be sitting to my 150" screen would be maybe 16' and that would be a stretch, more like 18' or more (just the layout of the room and doorways get in the way, etc), so I figure its not worth getting 4k.

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Do you need to sit so far back? If there's a problem with doors opening inward, you can always reverse the door casing.
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m0j0, it seems like beyond apples and oranges, no? Even the cheapest suggestion, the 5050, is over $2500! I would HOPE its miles above these $1000ish projectors I'm talking about.


And the JVC and Sony projectors, aren't those in the $5k-$10k range? I'm assuming even the used Sony is going to a minimum of $3-$5 k for something that high end.


I'm all for looking at various options, but not for 2-10 times what I'm looking to spend!

I got my Sony 4k projector used in the 4k range, but in my opinion it has been worth every penny. I am flat out blown away by the picture I see every night. The colors, black levels / shadow detail and sharpness are phenomenal! This is coming from a UHD60 where I was content with the sharpness and somewhat happy with the brightness and color, but never happy with the black levels. However, I probably would have been happy with the 5050 as well, so it really depends on your setup and budget.
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I suggest you steer clear of the Epson 2150. I had one for less than 100 hours and the lamp just died on me, but that's not even the issue. The focus is bad. There was no way I could get the entire picture into focus. Also, the colours sort of spill out. White letters on a black background had like a purple shadow around them. Very bad lens apparently. And I have seen others complaining about the same issues. For that sort of money, I expect at least the basics, like focus. Other than that, I'm in the same boat as you. Posted a different thread with my specific situation, if anyone would like to chime in.
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If the 3100 is available refurbished, no real reason to step up to the 3700. They are nearly identical in core features and the internals are the same... brightness and contrast differences are purely on paper. The 5040 is a great deal but a beast, so make sure you understand the size of it before you dive in. If you can stretch for the 5040 go for it, but you won't be disappointed with the 3100 or 3700 either.

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