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Optoma UHD52ALV

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"NEW UHD52ALV. Voice assistant-compatible projector for lights-on viewing.

Enjoy lights-on viewing and taking control via voice commands with the 4K UHD, 3,500 lumen Optoma UHD52ALV. Compatibility with Amazon Echo and Google Assistant devices enables easy integration into smart homes regardless of the preferred voice assistant.
Use voice commands to power the projector on and off, change volume, change input source and control the USB media player. Additionally, the UHD52ALV utilizes the latest Texas Instruments™️ 4K UHD DLP chipset capable of displaying 8.3-million simultaneous distinct pixels at screen sizes 140 inches and higher."

Display: Optoma UHD51A Projector > Elite Screens R135WH1 ezFrame | 7.2.4 Audio: Onkyo TX-RZ920 9.2ch Network A/V Receiver, M-5010 2ch Amplifier; Definitive Technology ProCenter 2000, ProMonitor 1000(x10), SuperCube I & 4000 | Sources: PC, DirecTV, Apple 4K, Fire Stick 4K, Oppo UDP-203, Chromecast & Roku Ultras, Xbox One X, PlayStation 4 Pro & Nintendo Switch | Remote: Harmony Elite | HDMI: 40' Monoprice DynamicView+4x1 Switch

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Any word on this?

"NEW UHD52ALV. Voice assistant-compatible projector for lights-on viewing.

Enjoy lights-on viewing and taking control via voice commands with the 4K UHD, 3,500 lumen Optoma UHD52ALV. Compatibility with Amazon Echo and Google Assistant devices enables easy integration into smart homes regardless of the preferred voice assistant.
Use voice commands to power the projector on and off, change volume, change input source and control the USB media player. Additionally, the UHD52ALV utilizes the latest Texas Instruments™️ 4K UHD DLP chipset capable of displaying 8.3-million simultaneous distinct pixels at screen sizes 140 inches and higher."
That sounds a lot like the UHD51ALV. Are you sure you have the correct model number?
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Email from Optoma marketing.

Link in email for it goes to a totally unrelated model. The CinemaX P1 is also featured in the email and its link works properly. The link not working is why I'm here.
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Email from Optoma marketing.

Link in email for it goes to a totally unrelated model. The CinemaX P1 is also featured in the email and its link works properly. The link not working is why I'm here.
Maybe that's a UHD51ALV upgraded to the new .47in XPR chip with a much reduced light border? Still it seems a bit suspicious.
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That sounds very possible. I forgot about those DMD's without the light border. Nothing in the text reveals anything new/different. Could be released with or without mention of the no light border as just the new model. We'll see if Optoma makes light of it or not if that is what it is.

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Just got this email too:

https://mailchi.mp/optoma.com/whats-...u?e=9a06b2e51e

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Love the ZK1050. Not in my budget though.

Display: Optoma UHD51A Projector > Elite Screens R135WH1 ezFrame | 7.2.4 Audio: Onkyo TX-RZ920 9.2ch Network A/V Receiver, M-5010 2ch Amplifier; Definitive Technology ProCenter 2000, ProMonitor 1000(x10), SuperCube I & 4000 | Sources: PC, DirecTV, Apple 4K, Fire Stick 4K, Oppo UDP-203, Chromecast & Roku Ultras, Xbox One X, PlayStation 4 Pro & Nintendo Switch | Remote: Harmony Elite | HDMI: 40' Monoprice DynamicView+4x1 Switch
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Ohh.. so maybe optoma have a new upgraded dmd line up comming later this year UHD52,UHD400X etc..
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So here it is:

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Voice Assistant-Compatible 4K UHD Projector
UHD52ALV


Smart+ technology with Alexa, Google Actions and IFTTT integration, and InfoWall
4K UHD, bright 3,500 lumens and RGBWRGBW color wheel
HDR10 and HLG support for brighter whites, deeper black levels and vivid colors
4K video playback with the integrated USB media player
Optoma Connect smart home and SmartFIT setup companion apps (Android & iOS)
HDMI 2.0 with HDCP 2.2 connectivity ensures compatibility with 4K UHD video sources
Vertical lens shift and 1.3x zoom for easy install
Voice assistant-compatible projector for lights-on viewing
Enjoy lights-on viewing and taking control via voice commands with the 4K UHD, 3,500 lumen Optoma UHD52ALV. Compatibility with Amazon Echo and Google Assistant devices enables easy integration into smart homes regardless of the preferred voice assistant.

Use voice commands to power the projector on and off, change volume, change input source and control the USB media player. Additionally, the UHD52ALV utilizes the latest Texas Instruments™ 4K UHD DLP chipset capable of displaying 8.3-million simultaneous distinct pixels at screen sizes 140 inches and higher.

A pair of HDMI 2.0 inputs with HDCP 2.2 support, HDR compatibility and wide color gamut ensure 4K device compatibility, rich lifelike color and contrast for immersive experiences. A 1.3x optical zoom and 15% vertical lens shift provide installation flexibility.


https://www.optoma.com/us/product/uhd52alv/

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https://www.optoma.com/us/wp-content..._Datasheet.pdf
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Did the 51ALV say anything about wcg? I wonder if that means some type of filter like the ht3550 has. I keep thinking that a similar filter or one that attempts to negate the white sections of the color wheel in a bright projector like this would be perfect. You could use it in normal mode for ambient light and 3d viewing (and maybe HDR), then engage the filter for better blacks and colors for everything else.

Anyway, sounds promising to me. As long as they don't cut 3d out or anything else silly like that. Extra points for a wcg filter and motion interpolation in 3d!

Edit: I see after reading through the data sheet that 3d is definitely included- no surprise. My wcg filter hopes seem very unlikely. It just states that the pj reaches a certain threshold of wcg and no mention of a filter, which they probably would if it had one.

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9-to-5 Toys Article

With Optoma’s UHD52ALV also joining the line-up, the company is trying to satisfy two different markets at once. Instead of high refresh rates, this model offers a 4K resolution with 3,500 lumens of brightness. It also happens to be smart, working with Alexa, Google Assistant, and IFTTT. This provides a variety of ways to toggle power, change volume, inputs, and more. Two HDMI inputs are onboard with HDR10 and HLG for a more vibrant image. Specifics on image size are unclear, but similar models tout 300-inch capabilities.

Pricing and availability
Optoma’s new 4K projector (UHD52ALV) is set to debut sometime in October for a seemingly high price of $1,799.

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From the Optoma datasheet:

"Additionally, the UHD52ALV utilizes the latest Texas Instruments™ 4K UHD DLP chipset capable of displaying 8.3-million simultaneous distinct pixels at screen sizes 140 inches and higher."

Marketing never has to re-write that sentence. The "latest" could be 6-months to years ago. Of course WE know the light border-less version was fairly recent. They (Optoma or any other maker) didn't mention the light border with the previous version and I'm sure they aren't going to draw attention to it now that it's been eliminated in the current batch of chips being placed in the projectors.

They still copy and paste "Additionally, the UHD52ALV utilizes the latest Texas Instruments™ 4K UHD DLP chipset capable of displaying 8.3-million simultaneous distinct pixels at screen sizes 140 inches and higher."

I still just hear "you need an image 140 inch or larger to make out [proper] distinct pixels. Sorry, not sorry. :-)

At the end of the day, I like seeing Optoma and others iterate on these lower end 4K DLP projectors and can only hope the prices come down even further or at the very least you get even more features for the same price. To keep myself from being tempted by the upgrade bug, I'm looking for HDMI 2.1, 120Hz and heck even true 12-bit image quality (HDR10+ maybe too). Time will tell if I can resist. Just buying another bulb is a heck of a lot cheaper.

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Love the ZK1050. Not in my budget though.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...l#post58510360


There is also what looks like the sequel to the UHZ65, the ZK507 for 5,500 $.


TBPH I'm somewhat disappointed about the upcoming range of Optoma models, I had hoped for a mid-range model reply to BenQ's HT5550 or the upcoming compact 3,700 $ JVC DLP laser projectors (both with true lens shift), but as I feared Optoma is apparently putting too much emphasis on its UST projector CinemaX P1.

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Pretty much got the exact same email today from Optoma: this time the link worked and went to the product page mentioned above.


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Email from Optoma marketing.

Link in email for it goes to a totally unrelated model. The CinemaX P1 is also featured in the email and its link works properly. The link not working is why I'm here.

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Did the 51ALV say anything about wcg? I wonder if that means some type of filter like the ht3550 has. I keep thinking that a similar filter or one that attempts to negate the white sections of the color wheel in a bright projector like this would be perfect. You could use it in normal mode for ambient light and 3d viewing (and maybe HDR), then engage the filter for better blacks and colors for everything else.

Anyway, sounds promising to me. As long as they don't cut 3d out or anything else silly like that. Extra points for a wcg filter and motion interpolation in 3d!

Edit: I see after reading through the data sheet that 3d is definitely included- no surprise. My wcg filter hopes seem very unlikely. It just states that the pj reaches a certain threshold of wcg and no mention of a filter, which they probably would if it had one.
There hasn't been many reviews of the UHD51ALV but it probably has a slightly smaller gamut than the UHD50/51A and I'd expect the UHD52ALV to be similar. The UHD52ALV has the same power consumption as the UHD51ALV and it's very interesting that the lumen count increases to 3500. This might indicate some underlying increase in the efficiency of the new 4k .47in DMD and/or the optical design of the light engine.
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The UHD52ALV utilizes the new TI chip that doesn't have the dead pool of pixels around the image--same as BENQ is now using. The data sheet says: Native Resolution 4K UHD 3840 x 2160 @ 60Hz with XPR Technology. In other words, it is using the same image vibration (XPR) technology to get a 1920x1080 chip to produce 3840x2160 pixels at the "same" time--time being so short, the human mind can't see the difference--it is NOT a truly native 4K chip. Probably using a brighter bulb to push 3,500 lumens as opposed to 3,000 of the UHD51ALV, which I have. All the other specs are pretty much the same as the 51ALV, but probably tweaked through upgraded (or should I say updated) hardware and software, which is usual for the tech growth of projectors. Either the UHD51ALV will disappear, or sold for less now, I would think. If you want a projector with SMART TV and Alexa built-in, this is probably it, especially if you want to use it in a living-room environment with lights on. I personally don't use the SMART TV option, as I have that on my Sony Bluray player, and having Alexa is a confusing waste, since about all you would do is ask it to go on and off or change some values that are more easily done with the remote.

Edit: Both the UHD51ALV and the 52ALV use 348 watts for bright, so as the person above states, there must be some other efficiencies in the chip or light channel, rather than a brighter bulb.

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this is becoming more interesting.. now that Epson releasing the new EH-TW7000 /7100 more 4k-hdr for the masses
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Ant new word on this PJ?

I was originally looking at the UHD51ALV as I will need a light cannon for my setup, 3D, 4K and HDR are requirements. The need for a light cannon is due to being in a living room environment and for better 3D / HDR performance. I also will be projecting on to an sub-1.0 gain ALR screen (120" 16x9 0.9 gain most likely).

If the major changes are brightness and a reduced light border, then it's likely worth the wait for me. According to a popular calc's estimate the difference is 32fl vs 39fl (estimated) or 56fl vs 59fl(based on specs). The numbers says it should add at least 10-15% brightness. That can be a major difference in perceived contrast in an ALR setup. Also looking at a sub-$3k range.
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Love the ZK1050. Not in my budget though.

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...l#post58510360


There is also what looks like the sequel to the UHZ65, the ZK507 for 5,500 $. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]


TBPH I'm somewhat disappointed about the upcoming range of Optoma models, I had hoped for a mid-range model reply to BenQ's HT5550 or the upcoming compact 3,700 $ JVC DLP laser projectors (both with true lens shift), but as I feared Optoma is apparently putting too much emphasis on its UST projector CinemaX P1.
ZK507 is releasing in US in October for $3,999 according to my recent correspondences with Optoma.
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I see the UHD52ALV is now available on our favourite online retailer...
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I see the UHD52ALV is now available on our favourite online retailer...
Yeah, been there at least a week or so. Wish they would stop teasing us

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Yeah, been there at least a week or so. Wish they would stop teasing us
Yes, if you try to actually order it, it shows OOS.

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New Optoma UHD380x seems to be UHD52ALV but without Alexa ?Same specs but nothing about Alexa


https://www.optomaeurope.com/product...d380x#features
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It seems there really is 1 "left" on our favorite realtor. Quick, somebody buy it before I do! I'm trying my best to resist! The 80ms lag, moving soon and uncertainty of if the picture is really an upgrade from my ht3050 is holding me back...but my 3d infatuation is pushing me to the edge...

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We should have a UHD52ALV review soon:

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Do you know why at amazon.com its says 1 to 3 months to ship?
Why its has too low stock?
It has been already released?
Im traveling to US on february, and i want to order one, but i am afraid i cant get it, and i would like to know if there is any difference with the UHD51alv.
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Do you know why at amazon.com its says 1 to 3 months to ship?
Why its has too low stock?
It has been already released?
Im traveling to US on february, and i want to order one, but i am afraid i cant get it, and i would like to know if there is any difference with the UHD51alv.
The big difference is that UHD52alv has the new DLP chip ( smaler light border) and I guess it will give a little bit more boost in the contrast.

UHD52alv has also HLG support, other then that there is no difference
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thanks!
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B&H has this with next day shipping apparently...


https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ..._4k.html/specs


Looks pretty interesting.
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Originally Posted by juanma10 View Post
Do you know why at amazon.com its says 1 to 3 months to ship?
Why its has too low stock?
It has been already released?
Im traveling to US on february, and i want to order one, but i am afraid i cant get it, and i would like to know if there is any difference with the UHD51alv.
Supposedly 500 more lumens as well.

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