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Need advice concerning BenQ models...

I'm currently shopping around for a projector (1'st time). I'm a big sports fan so a good sports picture is important to me. I also enjoy 4K content so I feel the BenQ TK800M, 850M (when it's released) or the upcoming "brighter" 3550 (when it's released) seem like the way to go...so far.

Question is...I'm not familiar with screens and which one to get for these models. I'm looking to go between 100"-130". My set up will be in my basement so I will be able to control lighting. It's a little overwhelming looking up screens if you're not familiar so I came here. What would you guys recommend is a quality relatively low cost screen that can handle up to 130" that work best with these models? Thank you for your feedback.
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I'm currently shopping around for a projector (1'st time). I'm a big sports fan so a good sports picture is important to me. I also enjoy 4K content so I feel the BenQ TK800M, 850M (when it's released) or the upcoming "brighter" 3550 (when it's released) seem like the way to go...so far.

Question is...I'm not familiar with screens and which one to get for these models. I'm looking to go between 100"-130". My set up will be in my basement so I will be able to control lighting. It's a little overwhelming looking up screens if you're not familiar so I came here. What would you guys recommend is a quality relatively low cost screen that can handle up to 130" that work best with these models? Thank you for your feedback.
I would suggest painting your projection wall with a grey paint and using that first. Here's what I used:

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produ...int_White.html

but there are probably better formulations available that you can mix yourself:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/110-diy-screen-section/

Using a painted wall gives you a lot more freedom in terms of image size and projector placement.
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I'm currently shopping around for a projector (1'st time). I'm a big sports fan so a good sports picture is important to me. I also enjoy 4K content so I feel the BenQ TK800M, 850M (when it's released) or the upcoming "brighter" 3550 (when it's released) seem like the way to go...so far.



Question is...I'm not familiar with screens and which one to get for these models. I'm looking to go between 100"-130". My set up will be in my basement so I will be able to control lighting. It's a little overwhelming looking up screens if you're not familiar so I came here. What would you guys recommend is a quality relatively low cost screen that can handle up to 130" that work best with these models? Thank you for your feedback.
Many home theater enthusiasts who are new to front projection think that light control means only eliminating natural light coming in to the space and eliminating artificial light within the space. Those obviously are a great place to start but many people forget how much light is generated by your room. Light from the projector bounces off the screen onto nearby surfaces. If those surfaces are reflective such as lighter colored paint, the refllected light from the screen actually bounces back onto the screen. This has a negative impact on your image quality. Percieved contrast is reduced. Black levels are decreased. Shadow details can become muddy. Specular highlights in brighter image lose detail. So before you think about your screen you need to consider how the surfaces near the screen will reflect light: your side walls , your floor and especially your ceiling. There are screens that are made to reduce the negative affect of ambient light. ALR (ambient light reducing screens) also known as gray screens can significantly improve the screen image in rooms where minimizing light reflections is not possible. Before getting any recommendations it would be helpful to know your room conditions, how far the projector will be from the screen and your budget. The further away from the screen the lower the lumens reach your screen. Screens can also compensate for that by introducing positive gain to a screen . The higher the gain the higher the brightness reflected back to the viewer. I would take the time to research screens and screen materials. That is where many novices make their mistake. You can have a good screen for decades. Your other gear will change much more frequently.

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I also enjoy 4K content so I feel the BenQ TK800M, 850M (when it's released) or the upcoming "brighter" 3550 (when it's released) seem like the way to go...so far.

You can narrow it down to just 2, according to sage the 850 is the hybrid between the 800M and the 3550, i.e. the "brighter" 3550.
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Typically you buy a screen for the room, not for the projector. Rarely is a projector too bright, but it often can have weak contrast which is somewhat helped by a dark screen, but at the cost of the highlights.

I generally think a white screen is the way to go as do the big three manufacturers (DaLite/Draper/Stewart). In a properly darkened theater, with dark paint on walls and ceiling, and dark carpet, a neutral white screen is the best performer.

On a budget, I just get the Silver Ticket screens in white and call it a day.
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I'm currently shopping around for a projector (1'st time). I'm a big sports fan so a good sports picture is important to me. I also enjoy 4K content so I feel the BenQ TK800M, 850M (when it's released) or the upcoming "brighter" 3550 (when it's released) seem like the way to go...so far.



Question is...I'm not familiar with screens and which one to get for these models. I'm looking to go between 100"-130". My set up will be in my basement so I will be able to control lighting. It's a little overwhelming looking up screens if you're not familiar so I came here. What would you guys recommend is a quality relatively low cost screen that can handle up to 130" that work best with these models? Thank you for your feedback.


To clarify:

HT3550: ‘mid-range’ 4K RGBRGB Home theater model
TK800M: budget 4K living room model
TK850: not yet released (or announced) ‘mid range’ 4K living room model with the same chassis, throw and lens zoom/shift as the HT3550.

If you have control over light (dark room with non reflective surfaces) and will be watching primarily with lights off then I like the HT3550. It will be the most fully featured of the three and should have the best dark room image of the three thanks to it’s iris.

If you don’t have good light control, generally have a poor room or like to watch with the lights on than the TK800M or upcoming TK850 might be a better choice.

I’m a fan of Silver Ticket screens. They are very affordable and high quality.
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To clarify:

HT3550: ‘mid-range’ 4K RGBRGB Home theater model
TK800M: budget 4K living room model
TK850: not yet released (or announced) ‘mid range’ 4K living room model with the same chassis, throw and lens zoom/shift as the HT3550.

If you have control over light (dark room with non reflective surfaces) and will be watching primarily with lights off then I like the HT3550. It will be the most fully featured of the three and should have the best dark room image of the three thanks to it’s iris.

If you don’t have good light control, generally have a poor room or like to watch with the lights on than the TK800M or upcoming TK850 might be a better choice.

I’m a fan of Silver Ticket screens. They are very affordable and high quality.
I will have good light control. It will be in basement with very little to no outside light. Only lighting will be overhead lights which I can adjust to my liking.

So basically it comes down to...does the 3550 out perform the TK800M when it comes to displaying sports? I know the Tk800M is marketed as a "sports" projector and has football mode..etc. which is supposed to bring out extra color and punch. Also, the 800M has 3,000 lumens compared to only 2,000 for the 3550. I feel like the extra brightness would bring out some extra punch regardless of lighting in the room. Thoughts?

What about the Optoma UHD60 which puts out 3,000 lumens?

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I will have good light control. It will be in basement with very little to no outside light. Only lighting will be overhead lights which I can adjust to my liking.

So basically it comes down to...does the 3550 out perform the TK800M when it comes to displaying sports? I know the Tk800M is marketed as a "sports" projector and has football mode..etc. which is supposed to bring out extra color and punch. Also, the 800M has 3,000 lumens compared to only 2,000 for the 3550. I feel like the extra brightness would bring out some extra punch regardless of lighting in the room. Thoughts?

What about the Optoma UHD60 which puts out 3,000 lumens?
Lightning in the room matters, regardless of the projector.
Brightness should not be taken from the lumens claim next to the name of the product, but from reputable websites which have measured the respective units:
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Ben...,-Measurements
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Ben...iew-update.htm
https://www.projectorcentral.com/Opt...D60-review.htm
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I will have good light control. It will be in basement with very little to no outside light. Only lighting will be overhead lights which I can adjust to my liking.

So basically it comes down to...does the 3550 out perform the TK800M when it comes to displaying sports? I know the Tk800M is marketed as a "sports" projector and has football mode..etc. which is supposed to bring out extra color and punch. Also, the 800M has 3,000 lumens compared to only 2,000 for the 3550. I feel like the extra brightness would bring out some extra punch regardless of lighting in the room. Thoughts?

What about the Optoma UHD60 which puts out 3,000 lumens?
"Good light control" means the ceiling, walls, and floor are painted a dark color or even better covered in dark fabric. Think about commercial cinemas. Every surface is dark including the seats themselves. You will not find a commercial theater that has white walls, ceilings, tile floors, white sofas, or glass surfaces.

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