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Converting double car garage into living space.

I have a 16x24 garage space that I am dedicating to movie room.

I have an outlet about 18' away from the projector screen wall where garage door outlet is. This will be a dark room, so light is a non issue. Seating will be about 14' away from screen wall.

Planning on a 120" screen and a couch for the time being for winter months to see if we like having the extra space as a movie room.

I used to own an optoma hd71 in 720p and it was great for our use before. It's been MANY years since then... But with that in mind what's a cheap model in 1080p that would be better than my old hd71 but not break the bank? $500 range (used models are options). Will be using an elite screen.

Mainly watching online content on Netflix. Maybe some bluerays from time to time, 1080p and quality is preferred over 4k and junk. I never watch 4k content and don't plan on it.

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I am looking at the 5050UB, but need to convince/test the room out first to make sure she likes it.

Epson 8700UB, Epson 8350 work for now?

I can get the 8350 for $600 locally, it includes a 50' hdmi cable, projector and an extra lamp.

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I would get an entry level DLP model brand new over a VERY dated 8350 in any condition.

Your screen size is on the small side for a 14' viewing distance, I would bump up to at least 133" diagonal.

In reality, the Epson 5040 is the best deal going, but even entry level 1080p models like the BenQ HT2050a are over $500. You can check the BenqDirect website for some refurbs which are much closer to budget and will be a much better direction than a decade old design with no warranty.

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I like the dark chip 3 DLP projectors in 1080p with the RGBRGB color wheels.

There are not a lot of them out there to pick from and none now under 500 that I know of.

If you can add 120 bucks the Benq HT2050A is a sure thing. Or for 80 bucks more the Viewsonic PX725HD.

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I did this and it’s great. We paid someone to remove the rails/springs/garage door opener and put a wall up behind the garage doors. So from the outside it looks normal and if we want to convert it back it’s easy to remove wall and put the rails/springs/openers back up.

I then painted the walls and ceiling a charcoal color while it was still uncarpeted and then had someone carpet it.

I mounted a projector on the ceiling and got a 150” silver ticket screen on the wall and we love it.

I highly recommend people turn their garage into a theater room; it’s a good size with tall ceilings (which allows a larger screen) that many people never use much. Adds 400 sq feet of usable living space, too.
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Well I actually park cars in my garage as it was designed for and helps considerably to protect them from our harsh winters and hot summers. But I guess if your not using it for that purpose its a good place for a dedicated home theater. I converted one of my kids bedrooms into my theater when I finial kicked them out.
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Thanks, yeah I have a huge side parking pad and we both always park outside. We have remote start so winters are no big deal... I live in Alaska.

Basically if we like the usefulness we plan to turn my big side parking into a tandem garage and fully convert the garage into a permenant living space. We live in a ranch style house and the layout makes way more sense for us to use the garage as a living space as we never use our garage for cars. It's usually a catch all storage space.

Just had a shed built and they finished today. So we plan to move all the junk from the garage into the shed.

Basically trying to see if this will work for us as we love everything else about our house but have seriously been wanting a dedicated movie area and our next option is selling and buying a different house.

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I'm almost in the same situation. But I have a 2050A, that I haven't even used it yet, 11 hours on it. I'm selling it, and looking for a 4k one.
I have asked in another thread, but I will ask it here as well. the 5040ub is not to bright for a dark room?
I have a 125" Elite Screens motorized screen, projector lift, since the ceiling is very low.
I also tinker with stuff on a workbench.
I have installed the screen, in front of the door. Back wall is not straight.

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Thanks, yeah I have a huge side parking pad and we both always park outside. We have remote start so winters are no big deal... I live in Alaska.

Basically if we like the usefulness we plan to turn my big side parking into a tandem garage and fully convert the garage into a permenant living space. We live in a ranch style house and the layout makes way more sense for us to use the garage as a living space as we never use our garage for cars. It's usually a catch all storage space.

Just had a shed built and they finished today. So we plan to move all the junk from the garage into the shed.

Basically trying to see if this will work for us as we love everything else about our house but have seriously been wanting a dedicated movie area and our next option is selling and buying a different house.
Same kind of setup worked for me at my ranch house. Took down the wall between the old 2 car garage and living room. Room now is 32'x22'. Added on a new garage on the end. Kept the tv and equipment up front in the "old" living room. Put a 4x8 pool table and bar where the car and truck once parked. Running a Denon X4400H at 11.4.around the new room. My use is 75% music. Sound is amazing. Worked out great here. Good luck to you and yours
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...the 5040ub is not to bright for a dark room?
I have a 125" Elite Screens motorized screen....
Not sure if you asked in the dedicated 5040UB thread, which is the right place to ask.

But, almost no projector is too bright for a 100" to 133" screen size. That's the sweet spot in terms of size for home theater and what the vast majority, including the 5040UB, are built to work with.

Yes, the 5040 CAN be bright, but put it in low lamp mode, and put it into 'theater' for the preset, and you will find that the light output is well under 1,000 lumens. If any projector IS overly bright, you can always add a ND filter to it. Those act like sunglasses for projectors.

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Thanks.

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Same kind of setup worked for me at my ranch house. Took down the wall between the old 2 car garage and living room. Room now is 32'x22'. Added on a new garage on the end. Kept the tv and equipment up front in the "old" living room. Put a 4x8 pool table and bar where the car and truck once parked. Running a Denon X4400H at 11.4.around the new room. My use is 75% music. Sound is amazing. Worked out great here. Good luck to you and yours
Awesome. Yeah if I used both bays I would have 24x32, but the other bay is being used as a workout/gym area. Sounds like we are on the same page though.

Plan is to put down those horse mats from tractor supply or the like to help insulate and it should be nice to walk on as we don't mind it in the gym area currently. Plus they are black so that should help.
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Awesome. Yeah if I used both bays I would have 24x32, but the other bay is being used as a workout/gym area. Sounds like we are on the same page though.

Plan is to put down those horse mats from tractor supply or the like to help insulate and it should be nice to walk on as we don't mind it in the gym area currently. Plus they are black so that should help.
We had to frame up the garage slab a few inches to come even with the old living room floor. A large bay window was framed in the new wall where the garage door once was. After carpet and new drywall, you would never notice the transition. Worst part of the whole job was removing the old asphalt driveway and having a new one put in going to the new garage.

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I'd look for a used or refurbed Benq DLP...they're touted in that sub $1k category for a reason. I have a HT1075 that I bought four years ago that's had zero issues and still puts out a great image on my 115" screen.
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Did you end up converting your garage yet?
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Yes, garage has been semi converted. Went with drapes for ease of returning back to garage if needed. Bought carpet with pad for the space. It's been super nice having the extra living space. We use the projector room all the time.

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Good, I’m glad you did it and are enjoying it. Ours gets many hours of use every single day by various people. Much more than the actual living room. I don’t know if I can ever live in a house without a theater room again.
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Yea, football tomorrow will be rather enjoyable. I typically spend all day Sunday in there and watch football on Monday and Thursday in there.

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Yes, garage has been semi converted. Went with drapes for ease of returning back to garage if needed. Bought carpet with pad for the space. It's been super nice having the extra living space. We use the projector room all the time.

Share some photos of it if you want. It's always nice to see how it turns out.

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I'm in a similar situation, but I will work in there as well, it will be more like a man cave. Fixing electronics, sometimes I would work on a car and also watch movies.
I'm asking the more experienced people here, I need ideas for paint colors, maybe even brands of paint. Ceiling and walls.
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Cannot speak highly enough of using a garage bay or two, if possible. We're in Wisconsin so it's mainly a summer space, but after the bar, video games, music and movies, it's great and you close the doors and it's "gone". We park outside too, and the wife can use of the two bays in the winter.

Great idea. I doubt you'll regret it.







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Darker is better for the paint, and you want a flat paint, not a glossy one.

I did my ceiling and walls in a charcoal; I think PPG timeless from Home Depot. I rolled it on and did 2 coats; also did one coat of primer on new drywall false wall behind garage doors but rest of walls I didn’t prime as they were already painted white.

The ceiling being done also makes a big difference.

I did a dark grey carpet.

If you want lighter because it’s multi-purpose, that’s fine, but go as dark as you are comfortable with.
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Thanks. I don't really want to black out all my walls/ceiling. I'm thinking something like dark blue and maroon, or similar combination.
It would be way better, if I would go black, dark gray?

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Thanks. I don't really want to black out all my walls/ceiling. I'm thinking something like dark blue and maroon, or similar combination.
It would be way better, if I would go black, dark gray?
If you don't want to black it out, why discuss painting at all? Why not use black curtains and have the best of both situations? Also, it's a lot less work than painting.

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Thanks. I don't really want to black out all my walls/ceiling. I'm thinking something like dark blue and maroon, or similar combination.
It would be way better, if I would go black, dark gray?
Anything other then white or light pastels will be an improvement. As an example I use a gun metal gray painted popcorn ceiling and dark flat maroon walls. And yes to contrary believe you can paint a popcorn ceiling you just can't get it too wet between coats. I have no understanding of the hate for popcorn ceilings as they are great for sound attenuation and reflections.

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