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post #271 of 283 Old 05-23-2020, 10:59 AM
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Have you considered the Epson LS500? It has the fastest input lag time out of all 4k UST projectors. The cost is not much more than B5U and despite all the talk about the throw distance, I did some research and according to Epson's projector calculator, the distance from screen to lens is approximately 63cm for a 100" screen which is not that much further than the B5U. For a 120" screen you're looking at 74cm.

https://support.epson-europe.com/TDS/#/

Chiq B5U | 100” Snowhite UST Screen | Pioneer Elite LX-503 | 7.2.4 Surround | Sony Core Series LCR + Atmos | Cambridge Min 12 Side Surrounds | Monoprice Rear Atmos Surrounds | Bic V1020 x2
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Anyone knows how to update the firmware from the beta version? No reply from Chiq yet
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Hi there,
Regarding the new firmware, here is the answer I got from Hao today :
"Thanks for the message.
I am sorry to tell that the firmware update is postponed again. During the final test before publish, bugs has been found in the firmware, Changhong is working on the fix. We are pushing them on a daily bases as the firmware has been delayed several time already, once I have any news here, I will inform you right away."

I'll keep you posted if I get any update but it looks like we're going to have to be patient...
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The more and more I sit here and think about this, the more I think I am making compromises to try and justify a projector, especially this B5U.

My finger has hovered over the purchase button dozens of times and for one reason or another I have held back. I am now thinking this was the right move..... for now.

I have been looking at the £2.5k bracket and what I can get from a more traditional set up that will perfectly suit my needs and have no other compromise than the huge 100"+ viewing experience.

85" flat screens are available in this range and will still be a huge step up in tech, size, quality etc from my current 55 inch display.

No expensive ALR screen to reap the true benefits from the UST technology, no lag issues, perfect upscaling, no need to condition my room for ambient light.... the list goes on.

I've already invested a few quid in the crdenza, a cooling system, a smoothed and finished PJ wall but I still cant get past the fact I am still making compromises.....

So, while it's been a ride I think, for the time being, until this UST tech can do what i need without as many compromises can someone point me in the direction of the £2.5k 85" panel forum please....
Here are a few reasons why a projector like the Chiq B5U projector still can have the advantage over buying a large TV:-

1. Image Size - The main advantage of course in viewing 4k content on a 4k projector as opposed to a 4k TV is the supersized ultra lifelike, immersive images blown up to a huge cinema size as it was intended to be ie up to 100" / 120"

Projectors are generally designed to work at much larger sizes. Indeed the B5U smallest recommended size is only 80"and goes up to 120" so far larger than any reasonably priced TV

2. Price - once you start going over 85" on 4K high end TVs costs start to climb dramatically from £2200 for a Sony Bravia TV to around £12,000 for a 98" screen and best not to even go there for the 120" versions of these.

Also you will need to consider the cost of installation of the TV or Non UST projector which can mount up to more than the perceived savings on a TV (see below).

UST projectors still really come into their own at cinema sizes.

3. Profile and Weight - At 85kg (185 lbs) for an 85" TV its going to need a pretty strong wall / brackets and proper installation to ensure it doesnt drop off your wall.

The 100" ALR projection screen will however only weigh 9kgs (19lbs) and more importantly be much much thinner as it doesnt have the speakers inside it so its almost totally flush to the wall.

4. Screens - if buying an ALR screen then there is no issue watching the higher lumen UST models like the B5U in daylight as a few videos have shown on this forum.

5. Input lag - there have been a few people comment that they have not had any real world issues with input lag with the Chiq B5U. Whilsts its not going to be as fast as the fastest gaming projectors on the market, the B5U has one of the better ones of all the UST models rather than standard models.

5. Installation
As you can imagine with the extra size and weight of a bigger TV it requires much more thought for installation than a UST projector that just sits on a cabinet with a lightweight screen that just simply hangs on the wall. DIY installation is far quicker and easier with a projector than a big heavy TV.

We recently did one professional large TV panel installation that took 14 hours in total to move all the cables, electrics, and networks (to ensure it was high speed) and to re-enforce the stud walls to ensure the TV and speakers could hang on the wall without falling off.

This of course is the same with a non UST projector where cables have to go into the middle of the ceiling usually, mounts installed, cables hidden and voids made to fit all the cabling followed by replastering and redocorating.

CONCLUSION
With UST you just dont get all this hassle. Its quick, simple and easy. With ALR screens, projectors are now viewable in daylight too at a much more affordable price than they ever were. You get the full immersive cinema experience that you might not get on the 85" or lower TV models so overall price and performance at a decent size is still the best option over the large TVs.
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Hi @CHiQLASER ,

Please can your technical team and the company strongly reconsider adding Keystone correction in via a firmware update. Think about the people who not only want to use this as a replacement to their TV setup, but also on beautiful nights, take it to a friends or have it outside to project onto an outside wall, not for the outstanding quality but just to have the experience/moment and those walls will not be completely flat, so the image will be all over the place.

Please re-consider.

I'm fairly new to projectors, so if there is something I have overlooked and my suggestions would not work regardless of keystone correction, please let me know.

Thanks,
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The newly released Fengmi Cinema pro 4k beats this to the pulp.
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The newly released Fengmi Cinema pro 4k beats this to the pulp.
Says who? In what way?

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I too am intrigued...
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I have compared the specs. But I am not allowed to put links here.
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I have compared the specs. But I am not allowed to put links here.
Then perhaps you could describe the basis of your comments.

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It already has no image interpolation (the new Fengmi), it is not available and so I don't see how jambaja could have made any comparison between the 2 (CHiQ B5U and FENGMI WEMAX PRO). His claim is completely unfounded.
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I should hope that any machine released afterwards will push the envelope and improve the whole UST Eco system. This isn't always the case, and the lack of image interpolation would be a no go for me. This is something I use on the low setting for all 4k 24p films I watch.

As with all the technology I buy, I know my hardware will be superseded either the next day, month or next year. You've got to jump in sometimes or you'll never jump! My purchases are made with this in mind, and the CHiQ B5U has everything I want for now and for the next few years. The prices means I won't be upgrading every year and will enjoy what I have and enjoy reading about the latest hardware gear that comes out.

I could make a shortlist of things I'd like to see improved, but even if these were done I wouldn't go out and replace. I'm still amazed at the picture quality, especially in normal day light and the wow factor watching movies and TV shows in the evening. Matrix 4KUltraHD was amazing this weekend and the SpaceX Youtube broadcast of the recent Dragon 9 mission, when they zoomed out before docking. On my old 1080p TV, the capsule would have been a few pixels against the earth backdrop, but on the 100inch screen, the depth and scale of where they were was brought into my living room!
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