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Jan L 11-25-2019 06:54 AM

CHiQ B5U 4k UST
 
Has anyone heard about that projector?

Specs:
0.21 Throw Ratio (I guess same as xiaomi, but bigger case)
1900 Ansi Lumens (They say real Ansi and a comparison with the viewsonic 10-4k makes it believable)
Later 0.47 Chip than Xiaomi A300 with PixelShift of course
30-35 ms Input lag - and thats what makes this interesting
30db noise - since its bigger than xiaomis I guess they can use bigger fans


price around 2200 € / Eu Shipping / warranty / english menus


youtube/6y6lNmOTLNo showcase video


Any thoughts about that?

Jan L 11-25-2019 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jan L (Post 58870146)
Has anyone heard about that projector?

Specs:
0.21 Throw Ratio (I guess same as xiaomi, but bigger case)
1900 Ansi Lumens (They say real Ansi and a comparison with the viewsonic 10-4k makes it believable)
Later 0.47 Chip than Xiaomi A300 with PixelShift of course
30-35 ms Input lag - and thats what makes this interesting
30db noise - since its bigger than xiaomis I guess they can use bigger fans


price around 2200 € / Eu Shipping / warranty / english menus


youtube/6y6lNmOTLNo showcase video


Any thoughts about that?

I forgot MEMC / FI

yltan 12-15-2019 05:02 PM

I have seen this B5U in action compare to Xiaomi 4k and noticed as below...

*Brighter than Xiaomi 4k
*I can still see the pixels on Xiaomi 4k but hardly on B5U.
*Definitely quieter than Xiaomi 4k.
*Much bigger unit than Xiaomi 4k.
*Have the extra MEMC function.
*No keystone adjustment on B5U.
*Better option for colour adjustment.

Others that might have better observation, kindly do share...

Coopzor 12-27-2019 06:48 PM

Why is not everyone talking about this projector? It seems to be way better then the xiaomi projector?

juic-E-juice 12-28-2019 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coopzor (Post 59011698)
Why is not everyone talking about this projector? It seems to be way better then the xiaomi projector?



Likely because it is a no-name and will lack proper support?



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tential 12-28-2019 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coopzor (Post 59011698)
Why is not everyone talking about this projector? It seems to be way better then the xiaomi projector?

What would we say? People have to actually have new info on it to talk about. Unless you've got new reviews, or plan on buying it to post info, it's just one product in the hypercycle of products coming out of China. 1 minute to ## months from now, there will be another product that will also be marginally better.

Marc Streeter 12-30-2019 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coopzor (Post 59011698)
Why is not everyone talking about this projector? It seems to be way better then the xiaomi projector?

probably because it's hard to find a place to buy it. Could you share where you are buying it from?

qoopy 12-30-2019 04:33 AM

Noise appears to be an issue with these changhong units.

yltan 01-01-2020 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qoopy (Post 59021134)
Noise appears to be an issue with these changhong units.

Care to share what kind of noise they have. I can try to check on my unit.

qoopy 01-02-2020 05:56 PM

Noise seems to be the main complain on the user forums, although it not clear if the posts are genuine or put out by the rivals.
If your unit is quiet, then nothing to worry about.

Jawnger 01-03-2020 12:11 AM

I had contact with the Reseller in UK... it seemed that he tried to convince me buying it. (2200 Euro)@ personalprojector.co.uk

He has send me Screenshots of his InputLag Measurements ~40-45ms which seemed proper and not faked. They offer warranty, 14 day trial etc so it seeeeemed trustworthy. But I still hesitated because of the upcoming CES and I dont like the overall look of the projector (toooo gray and cheap/big)


Quote from mail:
"Apologies thought we had already sent the lag info, here it is..“According to our test, the input lag for B5U is between 30 and 35ms which we think is good for most of the games. The way we test the input lag is to send the signal from a PC to both the projector and a gaming monitor (Asus VP228HE which has a confirmed response time of 1ms), then we start a stop watch from the PC, taken photos of the screen from both the projector and the gaming monitor to measure the difference so we can determine the input lag. Attached are the screen photos we taken, please check”.
Re Xiaomi Projector – not sure which model you are looking at but bear in mind Xiaomi does not offer the guarantees of Chiq B5U
  • Chiq has very understated lumens and contrast (unlike 99% of Chinese manufacturers – we;’ve seen them exaggerated by between 6 – 20 times in real lumens)
  • Chiq has a UK / EU warranty and is serviced here not in China with parts in the UK
  • a free Amazon Fire Stick with this product
  • 14 day money back guarantee

As B5U is a new product im not sure if it will have a video comparison against Xiaomi. The offer may well have expired in the time a video like that appears but you can see clearly on the video below what you are going to get anyway in all lighting conditions and you can return it if its not suitable."

-But the attached screenshot said more 40-45



I own the 1080p Xiaomi and all the projectors of 2019 just seem like slightly improved version, so im gonna wait a little more.

Andy169 01-10-2020 04:15 PM

I have recently bought the b5u from personnel projectors and so far so good love the build quality and the picture is sharp I just sold a optoma hz40ust and that was 4000 lumens the b5u is rated at 1900 yet looks brighter. I also bought a alr screen as part of the deal for £2700 and was delivered next day customer support is also great as I had to ask a few questions and they responded within the hour also rang to speak. 2 year warranty and 5 year parts and no need to send to China as it is all done in the UK.

zdjelar 01-27-2020 07:37 PM

Any details available like an actual manual? Or something that shows various measurements for planning purposes like the distance from wall for various screen sizes, vertical height/distance from screen, etc.

Also, number of HDMI ports seems very limited and not sure of the implications of no built in keystone adjustments. How does this projector compare overall to the other comparable Chinese models like cinema, fengmi, Luna pro, Veva, A300, etc (I probably spelled some of those wrong but you get the point)

yltan 01-29-2020 06:17 PM

You can download from the link below...

yltan 01-29-2020 06:17 PM


aerodynamics 01-31-2020 09:14 AM

I have one of these arriving next week and just realized the power supply is 220v 50hz. Will I be able to use this with a standard outlet in a US household or is a converter needed?

PersonalProjector 02-03-2020 10:06 AM

Thank you Andy for the great feedback on the CHiQ B5U, we are glad to hear you are enjoying the projector.

Andy169 - "I have recently bought the b5u from personnel projectors and so far so good love the build quality and the picture is sharp I just sold a optoma hz40ust and that was 4000 lumens the b5u is rated at 1900 yet looks brighter. I also bought a alr screen as part of the deal for £2700 and was delivered next day customer support is also great as I had to ask a few questions and they responded within the hour also rang to speak. 2 year warranty and 5 year parts and no need to send to China as it is all done in the UK."

PersonalProjector 02-04-2020 09:12 AM

In response to Aerodynamics:

Q: Can you use the supplied power supply in a US household?
A: The CHiQ B5U has a 100-240V 50/60Hz power supply, so it shouldn't be an issue to use in your household

aerodynamics 02-04-2020 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersonalProjector (Post 59198302)
In response to Aerodynamics:

Q: Can you use the supplied power supply in a US household?
A: The CHiQ B5U has a 100-240V 50/60Hz power supply, so it shouldn't be an issue to use in your household


Thank you. In addition, here is a current data sheet which I received from a retailer:

http://laser.changhong.com/upload/file/1575610163.pdf


I'll be setting up my unit over the next few days and will post my findings here.

aerodynamics 02-04-2020 11:02 PM

I have it set up haphazardly right now hooked up to an ATV 4K. I just wanted to make sure it works. It’s late now and I’ll do more testing tomorrow. But a few quick observations:

1) It’s relatively quiet. Much more quiet than my Viewsonic PX800HD. No coil whine that I can hear.
2) The GUI and menus leave a lot to be desired. I don’t see a lot of adjustments that can be made to the image outside of a few preset gamma modes. Picture modes include standard, UMAX (I’m guessing this is movie), text, sports, among others.
3) Relatively bright. It produces a very watchable image even wih my brightest floor lamp on 3ft from the screen, whereas the PX800 got very washed out anytime this lamp was on.
4) Anyone who’s a fan of FI will be happy. The option is available even with 4k sources.
5) It works on a standard US outlet. Mine came with the proper power cable.

Here’s the crazy thing. Once connected, the ATV asked if I wanted to switch to Dolby Vision mode. I selected yes just to see what would happen. Once enabled, the B5U’s available picture mode options become “Dolby Vision bright” and “Dolby Vision dark.” I’m not sure how it’s interpreting the data but it’s clear the B5U at least recognizes it.

aerodynamics 02-05-2020 03:27 PM

More observations:

- I was wrong. There’s a decent amount of picture controls. Long pressing the settings button shows more options.
- OS is Android 8.0. There are no apps preinstalled. I’m not familiar with Android but I believe apps can be sideloaded.
- I measured input lag at 54.4ms using a HDFury Diva in game mode. The Diva has a ton of settings that may or may not contribute to lag so faster times may be possible with a dedicated device like a Bodnar.
- The motorized focus is a very nice touch.
- Build quality seems solid. It’s a large, heavy unit about 19” wide.

PersonalProjector 02-07-2020 01:24 AM

In response to Yltan:

Q: What noise does it have?
A: The CHiQ B5U has an operating noise of 30dB

aerodynamics 02-08-2020 01:42 PM

So far, I like it for the most part, enough that I put up the PX800 for sale. The difference in resolution is not as much of a jump (unless viewing text) as the wider color gamut and brightness. Black levels are noticeably better than the PX800.



A couple annoying things are:

1) there is only one user defined picture mode and, like many other models, once you make any change to a factory setting, it gets thrown into the user mode.

2) Because the remote is bluetooth, the profile doesn't exist in Logitech's Harmony database and it cannot be programmed manually. As of now, turning it on with my other devices is a two-remote process and I can't get CEC to turn it on either.

3) It doesn't seem to remember the last input and always defaults to HDMI 1.

yltan 02-09-2020 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerodynamics (Post 59218678)
So far, I like it for the most part, enough that I put up the PX800 for sale. The difference in resolution is not as much of a jump (unless viewing text) as the wider color gamut and brightness. Black levels are noticeably better than the PX800.



A couple annoying things are:

1) there is only one user defined picture mode and, like many other models, once you make any change to a factory setting, it gets thrown into the user mode.
Agreed.

2) Because the remote is bluetooth, the profile doesn't exist in Logitech's Harmony database and it cannot be programmed manually. As of now, turning it on with my other devices is a two-remote process and I can't get CEC to turn it on either.
I am also failed to get the CEC to work with my NR709 receiver. I can't turn on/off the receiver whenever I turn on/off the projector.

3) It doesn't seem to remember the last input and always defaults to HDMI 1.

When I turn on my projector, it always goes to main display and not HDMI 1.

Casey_Bryson 02-10-2020 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aerodynamics (Post 59218678)
So far, I like it for the most part, enough that I put up the PX800 for sale. The difference in resolution is not as much of a jump (unless viewing text) as the wider color gamut and brightness. Black levels are noticeably better than the PX800.



A couple annoying things are:

1) there is only one user defined picture mode and, like many other models, once you make any change to a factory setting, it gets thrown into the user mode.

2) Because the remote is bluetooth, the profile doesn't exist in Logitech's Harmony database and it cannot be programmed manually. As of now, turning it on with my other devices is a two-remote process and I can't get CEC to turn it on either.

3) It doesn't seem to remember the last input and always defaults to HDMI 1.

Did you using the profile of the Nvidia Shield? That's what I'm using for the Fengmi. Also did you get your Fengmi or just decode to get the B5U instead?

aerodynamics 02-10-2020 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Casey_Bryson (Post 59226766)
Did you using the profile of the Nvidia Shield? That's what I'm using for the Fengmi. Also did you get your Fengmi or just decode to get the B5U instead?

I tried using the Shield profile but it doesn't work. How are you getting it to work with your Fengmi since a display is required to create the activity and the Shield is not listed as one? I also tried using the Xiaomi profile for their 1080p projector, no luck there also.

I ended up canceling the Fengmi since it was right in the middle of the new year festivities and they were taking too long to fulfill the order. And honestly I was scared off by having to root the projector for lower lag times.

PersonalProjector 02-11-2020 05:28 AM

In Response to aerodynamics:

1) there is only one user defined picture mode and, like many other models, once you make any change to a factory setting, it gets thrown into the user mode.

Yes, there is only screen mode which the customer can define.

2) Because the remote is bluetooth, the profile doesn't exist in Logitech's Harmony database and it cannot be programmed manually. As of now, turning it on with my other devices is a two-remote process and I can't get CEC to turn it on either.

There are too many third party IoT devices in the market, CHiQ are unable to guarantee the compatibility with third party products and there is ongoing CEC tests with third party devices at present. The manufacturer mentioned they are going to try to test the Logitech device and see if they can solve it in future firmware update.

3) It doesn't seem to remember the last input and always defaults to HDMI 1.

When a HDMI signal source is powered and plug in, the projector will switch to that source automatically in 10 seconds. If there is no new HDMI source detected, the projector will start up with the HDMI source that was connected last time.

yltan 02-11-2020 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PersonalProjector (Post 59229272)
In Response to aerodynamics:

1) there is only one user defined picture mode and, like many other models, once you make any change to a factory setting, it gets thrown into the user mode.

Yes, there is only screen mode which the customer can define.

2) Because the remote is bluetooth, the profile doesn't exist in Logitech's Harmony database and it cannot be programmed manually. As of now, turning it on with my other devices is a two-remote process and I can't get CEC to turn it on either.

There are too many third party IoT devices in the market, CHiQ are unable to guarantee the compatibility with third party products and there is ongoing CEC tests with third party devices at present. The manufacturer mentioned they are going to try to test the Logitech device and see if they can solve it in future firmware update.

3) It doesn't seem to remember the last input and always defaults to HDMI 1.

When a HDMI signal source is powered and plug in, the projector will switch to that source automatically in 10 seconds. If there is no new HDMI source detected, the projector will start up with the HDMI source that was connected last time.

I have my media player (always on) connected to HDMI1 and when I try to power on the projector, it doesn't go to HDMI1 but stay at default launcher page.

CHiQLASER 02-12-2020 04:46 AM

CHiQ B5U Start Up Options
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by yltan (Post 59232538)
I have my media player (always on) connected to HDMI1 and when I try to power on the projector, it doesn't go to HDMI1 but stay at default launcher page.

Hi, from the projector home screen, please go to TV manager>Application Management>Boot Direct. There are three options: Intelligent, Home, Source. If you set the boot option to intelligent, the projector will start from the last applied input source. When it is set to Home, it will start from the system home page, you can also define a specific input source for system start up, thanks.

CHiQLASER 02-12-2020 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by juic-E-juice (Post 59015658)
Likely because it is a no-name and will lack proper support?



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Hi, this is Hao from Changhong. Changhong CHiQ laser projectors are new in the overseas market.

As a consumer electronics manufacture with over 60 years history (back in 2004, 90% of the television sets exported from China to the United States were made by Changhong), we are proud of our brand and we handle the overseas market with care.

Unlike some other Chinese brand, we do not deploy products overseas before the product localisation, overseas distribution and customer service support are ready. In the UK, CHiQ projectors come with native English operation system, user's manual and 2 years UK based manufacture warranty and local customer support.

When choosing a CHiQ projector, you can be assured that the product complies with all relevant statutory regulations, finished at high quality with proper warranty and support.


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