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Still enjoying Epson 705HD

I bought the Epson 705HD 720p projecter in 2010 refurbed and use it with a Silver Ticket 100 and a Yamaha RX-V2700 receiver with Yamaha towers, center, rears and powered sub. We have it mounted in the ceiling in a 15x15 room that's easily darkened with seating 11 ft away. Just finished watching The Mandalorian which looked fine to us. Are we content with the resolution because it's very similar to what we viewed in multiplexes over the years?

I have some friends who've bought a Sony XBR75X900F paired with a Sonos bar that looks great but I prefer our home theater experience. Interested in peoples opinion on this and recommendations for upgrading the projector. The source is an i7 computer equipped with a GTX 1080.

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Hi,

the experience you're describing implies that screen size is easily more important to you than contrast, color, resolution, etc. Depending on how much you're willing to spend, just about any medium to high range home theater projector will be an improvement over your Epson in every regard except maybe brightness (which your projector has enough to spare, anyway).

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Hi,

the experience you're describing implies that screen size is easily more important to you than contrast, color, resolution, etc. Depending on how much you're willing to spend, just about any medium to high range home theater projector will be an improvement over your Epson in every regard except maybe brightness (which your projector has enough to spare, anyway).
Thanks for your reply,

I think its the combination of screen size and quality of the sound in a dark room. The Yamaha 5.1 system is from 2007 and wasn't high end but the sound is better than the Sonos bar. The system is nicely dialed in thanks to advice here on the forum.

I had my eyes on the following projectors over the years:
Epson 5040UB
BenQ HT2550
Optoma UD50

I would probably buy refurb again - was watching BenQ deals for a while. I always find out about last months great deal

Hoping to spend between $600-900

Most of what I will watch is going to be 1080p but I would like better color (HDR etc).
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Still enjoying Epson 705HD

I have no experience with any of those projectors, but according to what’s usually the word in the forum, you will get the best performance with the Epson, although you may have to try more than one refurbished unit before you get a good one. The DLP projectors will likely give you a sharper image, but the Epson is has a lot of advantages, such as contrast, black levels, lens shift, quieter, etc. And if one day you decide to paint or cover your room in black, you’ll get an even better image. Other forum members can give you a more thorough answer.


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Thanks for your reply,

I think its the combination of screen size and quality of the sound in a dark room. The Yamaha 5.1 system is from 2007 and wasn't high end but the sound is better than the Sonos bar. The system is nicely dialed in thanks to advice here on the forum.

I had my eyes on the following projectors over the years:
Epson 5040UB
BenQ HT2550
Optoma UD50

I would probably buy refurb again - was watching BenQ deals for a while. I always find out about last months great deal

Hoping to spend between $600-900

Most of what I will watch is going to be 1080p but I would like better color (HDR etc).
I went from an HC740 to an HC1040 on a ~145in grey painted screen and I was impressed with the increase in resolution. I then went to a W1070 (in a different location) and again, it was a considerable step up from the HC1040 having better colour and contrast while being somewhat sharper. We have now augmented the HC1040 with a UHD50, which is currently paired with a Panasonic UB420 4K BD player for DVD, BD and 4K BD and 4K streaming playback. The UHD50 paired with the UB420 makes for a really enjoyable setup, although the Sony UBP-X700 wasn't bad either and was considerably better than a BD only player and it has superb DVD, BD upscaling and 4K streaming capability. The UHD50 is far superior to the HC1040 in sharpness and has much better colour and is somewhat better in contrast, especially when tweaked with the UB420's HDR optimizer.

I would consider getting a bigger screen to better appreciate 4K but I am certain you would be favourably impressed by the UHD50 especially when playing HDR content. Coming from an HC750 I would suspect that you would find the Viewsonic PK-747 to be impressive as well, especially if paired with a larger screen. In the deals found subforum users have found the UHL55 to be impressive.

There are now many options in the under ~$900 price range.
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I went from an HC740 to an HC1040 on a ~145in grey painted screen and I was impressed with the increase in resolution. I then went to a W1070 (in a different location) and again, it was a considerable step up from the HC1040 having better colour and contrast while being somewhat sharper. We have now augmented the HC1040 with a UHD50, which is currently paired with a Panasonic UB420 4K BD player for DVD, BD and 4K BD and 4K streaming playback. The UHD50 paired with the UB420 makes for a really enjoyable setup, although the Sony UBP-X700 wasn't bad either and was considerably better than a BD only player and it has superb DVD, BD upscaling and 4K streaming capability. The UHD50 is far superior to the HC1040 in sharpness and has much better colour and is somewhat better in contrast, especially when tweaked with the UB420's HDR optimizer.

I would consider getting a bigger screen to better appreciate 4K but I am certain you would be favourably impressed by the UHD50 especially when playing HDR content. Coming from an HC750 I would suspect that you would find the Viewsonic PK-747 to be impressive as well, especially if paired with a larger screen. In the deals found subforum users have found the UHL55 to be impressive.

There are now many options in the under ~$900 price range.
Hi DunMonro,

Thanks for sharing your upgrade path. The shortlist looks like UHD50 and HT2550. I was shopping 5040UB's used and they were still out of my price range ($1500 for ones from ebay individuals with 100% ratings who I think I can verify as home theater enthusiasts who usually take good care of the equipment and represent it honestly)
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I was shopping 5040UB's used and they were still out of my price range ($1500 for ones from ebay individuals with 100% ratings who I think I can verify as home theater enthusiasts who usually take good care of the equipment and represent it honestly)
Be careful with that. I wouldn't be selling a used projector without warranty for more than the manufacturer sells it with 2 years of warranty. That tells me they might not be the enthusiasts you're trusting they are. Besides, either they show good quality photos to show there are no image issues, or you can't really trust them. Too often I've seen people selling overpriced high-end projectors with no projection photos or with photos taken of a projection over a curtain, a card box or a closet door.

There are at least 2 5040UB's for sale on the classifieds right now:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/252-front-projector/

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Hi DunMonro,

Thanks for sharing your upgrade path. The shortlist looks like UHD50 and HT2550. I was shopping 5040UB's used and they were still out of my price range ($1500 for ones from ebay individuals with 100% ratings who I think I can verify as home theater enthusiasts who usually take good care of the equipment and represent it honestly)
Refurbished 5040UB's are not only cheaper, but come with warranty, straight from Epson:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/199-f...-151-00-a.html
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Refurbished 5040UB's are not only cheaper, but come with warranty, straight from Epson:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/199-f...-151-00-a.html
You're both right about the ebay listers. I bought my existing Epson from their refurbished store. Will try to the get the $1,147 deal - I'll push my budget out $200 for that deal
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You're both right about the ebay listers. I bought my existing Epson from their refurbished store. Will try to the get the $1,147 deal - I'll push my budget out $200 for that deal
Just have to keep an eye on the stock, it goes very fast.
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Refurbished 5040UB's are not only cheaper, but come with warranty, straight from Epson:
https://www.avsforum.com/forum/199-f...-151-00-a.html
The 5040UB will require a much more substantial ceiling mount which should be factored into the cost.
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You're both right about the ebay listers. I bought my existing Epson from their refurbished store. Will try to the get the $1,147 deal - I'll push my budget out $200 for that deal
I would also look at their refurbed HC2040, HC2150, HC3100 and the HC4000 (but like the HC5040 this tips the scales at over 24lb) all of which will represent a substantial upgrade from the 705HD.

We have an HC2030 as well, and it is far superior to the HC740.

The other thing to consider is the cost of a good quality 4K BD player and/or streaming device as a 4K projector is crippled without it. The Sony X700 has a very large assortment of 4K streaming apps and is superb at upscaling DVDs and BDs, while the Panasonic UB420 has fewer streaming apps (in the USA) but is also very good at upscaling DVDs and BDs and is better, via it's HDMI optimizer, at playing 4K BDs.

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You're right about that 5040UB being a beast - a rental we stayed in once had a 5030 - it was big.

Our souce is Windows 10 with a GTX 1070 GPU. 4K viewing would mostly be Netflix and Amazon Prime. After all the BS we went through with copy protection issues watching BD discs (was totally HDCP compliant but some discs wouldn't run anyway) in WMC I would go with a UB420.

Thanks for the alternative list of Epson models.

I notice in this thread no mentions (except by me) about the BenQ HT2550 - Is there an issue with it?
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One other thing I would mention is that this will be used almost exclusively in a dark room. We run the 705 on Eco to reduce it's brightness.
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You're right about that 5040UB being a beast - a rental we stayed in once had a 5030 - it was big.

Our souce is Windows 10 with a GTX 1070 GPU. 4K viewing would mostly be Netflix and Amazon Prime. After all the BS we went through with copy protection issues watching BD discs (was totally HDCP compliant but some discs wouldn't run anyway) in WMC I would go with a UB420.

Thanks for the alternative list of Epson models.

I notice in this thread no mentions (except by me) about the BenQ HT2550 - Is there an issue with it?
This is a comparison of the HT2550 and the UHD50:

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Thanks for that link - I just watched the TVS Pro video. Looks like the UD50 is clearly better for my darkened room viewing. Contrast and black looks much better. The BenQ seems to trying to be brighter at the cost of detail and contrast/blacks. The close up of the computer desktop clinched it.

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