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There's very lengthy review just posted here:

https://www.projectorcentral.com/VAV...tor-Review.htm

it's certainly worth reading.
Too much reading... To sum it up it's best bang for your buck amongst USTs and I had mine for 5 months now.

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@DunMunro , thanks for posting up our ProjectorCentral review of the VAVA to share. My apologies to all for the extreme length; given the rather glowing reviews this unit has received elsewhere I felt the need to delineate all the small (and potentially impactful for enthusiasts) errors made in the design -- up to and including an odd glitch that came up while I was testing the newest firmware that causes the projector to shift colors every time you come back from the Home screen...and requires a visit to the image parameter menu to kind of "wake it up" and remind it that you actually made some precise settings you'd like it to adhere to.



That said, for the price, and with some adjustments, it's a pretty good picture with a UST screen in a living room setting and beats a 65-inch or 75-inch panel any day of the week. For anyone who owns this projector, make sure you download the new firmware VAVA pushed out on April 18th, which according to VAVA, addressed the following:


Update notes of the V1.64 OTA software
1. Add Shutdown menu
2. Add 3D function
3. Add 50hz refresh rate option
4. Add Help menu with operation videos
5. Add User experience improvement plan option
6. Change from long press to short press to pop up the slide-out menu in HDMI/AV interface
7. Solve the issue of HDR videos being too dark
8. Solve the issue of SDR videos being washed out
9. Optimize CEC function
10. Optimize fans control logic to reduce noise
11. Fix bugs.


Numbers 7 and 8 were key, particularly 7, which took the HDR from unwatchable to watchable in my view. Regarding number 8, I never had an issue with the SDR picture being too washed out, but I calibrated for SDR in a dark room and made what adjustments I could with Contrast and Brightness given the absence of any gamma control in the menu.



I'm around to respond to any questions about the review if they come up. I'm working on our Optoma P1 review now, which should get posted up next week sometime.
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Rob, thank you for the extensive review, and for the detailed report on the 3-D performance.
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Thank you for the acknowledgement. I've been fascinated by the emergence of this new 4K UST product category and intrigued by the different products coming out. Much more to learn, I'm sure.
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I installed 1.71 yesterday and it is a clear improvement. My major complaints have been addressed,
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I installed 1.71 yesterday and it is a clear improvement. My major complaints have been addressed,
What changed with the latest firmware? I installed it but haven't noticed anything significantly different.
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What changed with the latest firmware? I installed it but haven't noticed anything significantly different.
The first thing we noticed is improved fan operation... less higher speed noise.

My partner reports better picture with some HD feeds and it seemed to me that adjustments consistently take effect and are retained.
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What 3D glasses is good to be used with this VAVA ?

Any URL to buy the 3D glasses?
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Hi guys, proud Vava owner for 1 week here. I have firmware v1.8 if any of you are intereted. Mods let me know if it's ok to post this here.
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What 3D glasses is good to be used with this VAVA ?



Any URL to buy the 3D glasses?
I tried 3 different brands of DLP LINK 3D glasses and only the Ultra-Clear HD 144 Hz DLP Link 3D Active Rechargeable Shutter Glasses for All 3D DLP Projectors seemed to work.



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Design-wise, this beats Optoma P1 by a long shot if planning to install in a bedroom or regular living room

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Hi guys, proud Vava owner for 1 week here. I have firmware v1.8 if any of you are intereted. Mods let me know if it's ok to post this here.
How’s the picture quality, motion handling, and response time so far?

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How’s the picture quality, motion handling, and response time so far?



Thanks,
Unfortunately I have been using this pj with firmware v1.8 from day 1 so all the negative comments I've heard in various reviews in my opinion do not apply. Motion is great in real content and never noticed issues even in long panning shots. PJ can be set at 60Hz and 50Hz.
Picture quality is sharper and with more accurate colors than Xiami Mi. After basic tweaking of picture settings I found myself going WOW a few times, and I'm used to 4K Oled quality.
Today I'm testing the Optoma 1 to see how it fairs against the Vava.

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Unfortunately I have been using this pj with firmware v1.8 from day 1 so all the negative comments I've heard in various reviews in my opinion do not apply. Motion is great in real content and never noticed issues even in long panning shots. PJ can be set at 60Hz and 50Hz.
Picture quality is sharper and with more accurate colors than Xiami Mi. After basic tweaking of picture settings I found myself going WOW a few times, and I'm used to 4K Oled quality.
Today I'm testing the Optoma 1 to see how it fairs against the Vava.

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Sounds real positive. Please keep us updated with your testing regarding the Optoma.

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Sounds real positive. Please keep us updated with your testing regarding the Optoma.



Thanks,
Testing Optoma right now. Right away this thing is giving me a hard time using 3D mode

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How do you like the 3D performance of the Vava?

Is it bright enough when using 3D feature?

What 3D glasses did you use?
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1.8 firmware was just a rollback of HDR changes made in 1.7 nothing new. It got pushed recently to my VAVA. Actually failed to update on first try
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I have the Vava 4k with Firmware 1.8 and can't get a sharp image on my CLR Screen.

I did it like here:
youtube.com/watch?v=w9dbLTR5g0M


but when I move the focus to the left end point, the picture is perfecty sharp on the bottom, but the top is burred.

So I move step by step to the right, but then the bottom is getting burred and the top is more sharpen. There is no position where the whole screen is sharp, is that normal?
the Vava is perfectly positioned I don't need any trapezoid Correction.
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1.8 firmware was just a rollback of HDR changes made in 1.7 nothing new. It got pushed recently to my VAVA. Actually failed to update on first try
It updated successfully to my unit. Best picture I've seen and for almost $1000 less than the Optoma 1. You get the same product minus all the useless fluff. I should know since I own both

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I have the Vava 4k with Firmware 1.8 and can't get a sharp image on my CLR Screen.



I did it like here:

youtube.com/watch?v=w9dbLTR5g0M





but when I move the focus to the left end point, the picture is perfecty sharp on the bottom, but the top is burred.



So I move step by step to the right, but then the bottom is getting burred and the top is more sharpen. There is no position where the whole screen is sharp, is that normal?

the Vava is perfectly positioned I don't need any trapezoid Correction.
Trapezoid correction to me is video quality 'murder' lol.
How big an image are you projecting?

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It updated successfully to my unit. Best picture I've seen and for almost $1000 less than the Optoma 1. You get the same product minus all the useless fluff. I should know since I own both

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and how is the 3D mode in comparison with the optoma? Does the optoma automatically switch in 3D when you play 3D movie?
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Trapezoid correction to me is video quality 'murder' lol.
How big an image are you projecting?

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I have a 120'' screen, and the yellow rectangles are all blurred at the edge
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I have a 120'' screen, and the yellow rectangles are all blurred at the edge
I have a 100" cinewhite screen and no such issues. Have you tried to go smaller than 120" just to see what happens?

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How is the 3D performance on the VAVA? What 3D glasses did you use for the VAVA?
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How is the 3D performance on the VAVA? What 3D glasses did you use for the VAVA?
These are the only glasses that worked for me on this PJ:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KUIYUP8..._h9l.Eb86GXFRR

3D is excellent once I found DLP link glasses that worked. I went through 3 different brands including BenQ DLP Link 3D glasses
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These are the only glasses that worked for me on this PJ:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KUIYUP8..._h9l.Eb86GXFRR

3D is excellent once I found DLP link glasses that worked. I went through 3 different brands including BenQ DLP Link 3D glasses
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Thank you USTGuy and thanks for putting up the link to where to buy it.
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Thank you USTGuy and thanks for putting up the link to where to buy it.
You're welcome. I was very frustrated at first and spent a long time on the phone with SunValley Tech trying to figure out why all my 3D glasses weren't working with this projector. I thought all DLP link should work and that 3D on this thing had to be defective. I went and bought the glasses the tech guy recommended me and 3D now is as good as it gets.
Also 3D is a lot more watchable than on Xiaomi 1080p which was way too dim. Here 3D picture remains bright and punchy, which to me was a big deal.

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It updated successfully to my unit. Best picture I've seen and for almost $1000 less than the Optoma 1. You get the same product minus all the useless fluff. I should know since I own both

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Well it updated fine after restarts, I was just saying that 1.8 does not add anything new, just a rollback of HDR changes from 1.7. I had mine since November 2019, it's been awesome and much better then Xiaomi 1080p I had before, might pick up a second one if nothing new comes up this fall. Hopefully they'll have the same or better deal they had last Black Friday.
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Well it updated fine after restarts, I was just saying that 1.8 does not add anything new, just a rollback of HDR changes from 1.7. I had mine since November 2019, it's been awesome and much better then Xiaomi 1080p I had before, might pick up a second one if nothing new comes up this fall. Hopefully they'll have the same or better deal they had last Black Friday.
The Sun Valley Tech guy told me v1.8 also corrected minor bugs for 3D picture.
I own both this and the Optoma P1. To be honest, I am not sure if the higher price of the Optoma is justifiable from a sheer picture quality comparison standpoint.
It's kinda like comparing two cars with basically the same engine, only one of the two comes with more gadgets and fancy control units.
Also, the Vava fills up more of a 100" screen closer to the wall than the Optoma P1 does. In my case, since my setup is in the bedroom, it is crucial that I'm able to keep the stand as close to the screen wall as possible or else it starts getting in the way of the bed. Here is an older photo with former Xiaomi projector to give you an idea of how the bed doesn't allow for console to be moved much further back from the screen.

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