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Hi Folks,

can you help me with a little advice?
I've been given the opportunity to purchase a pair of Dunlavy SC-IV, used previously in a mastering studio. The asking price is around €3,000.--, possibly a little lower, since the seller and I are acquiantances.

I was wondering if any one of you has experience with these in terms of room requirements, amp limitations, etc. I currently own a Rotel RSX 1067, which, based on info in Stereophile magazine, puts out the bare minimum required for the SC-IV. However, they are stated to have 91dB efficiency, so this amp might just be able to cope with them and the 3 Ohm load. I don't play very loud very often. But I should point out that my current listening room is far from ideal. It sounds pretty good with my current set up, but I don't think it's suited for these behemoths.

Any reccomendations are very welcome! I'd love to get my hands on these beauties, but only if it's worth the effort and money.

Thanks!
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I got a pair of IV in last Summer. You do need a bigger room for these speakers since the sweet spot is at lease 12 feet from them. I biamp them with a 55wpc tube and 200w SS amp. I feel giving more power is better for the dynamics.

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I got a pair of IV in last Summer. You do need a bigger room for these speakers since the sweet spot is at lease 12 feet from them. I biamp them with a 55wpc tube and 200w SS amp. I feel giving more power is better for the dynamics.

I've had IV-A's for fifteen years (guessing) and can say you don't have to sit far back. John Dunlavy has said one arrangement with his speakers is to sit closer than the spread of the speakers. I've had mine all over a 18'x28' room, and my favorite positon to date is five feet in from the short wall, spread 8' apart, and about 6'-6" on the diagonal from the speaker grille to my ears, and a good bit of toe-in. Surely could be called near-field listening. No problem whatsoever with drivers blending, the speakers completely disappear sonically, and the soundstage is three dimensional. I do use dual subs crossed over at 50Hz.

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It may work with near-field setup, but the 6ft height could be an issue for me who is not as tall ;-( Did you sit high in your setup? BTW, I just audited a pair of V two days ago and like them. Have you compared the IV/a to V or VI? What is your opinion? Thanks.

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I've been given the opportunity to purchase a pair of Dunlavy SC-IV, used previously in a mastering studio. The asking price is around €3,000.--, possibly a little lower, since the seller and I are acquiantances.

Just curious, what country are you in that you're paying in Euros? I sold my SC-IV's to a mastering studio in The Netherlands.
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It may work with near-field setup, but the 6ft height could be an issue for me who is not as tall ;-( Did you sit high in your setup?

I'm a little confused by what you're asking. They're not designed to be listened to standing up or even sitting "high." Even though the speakers are tall, when the average person is in the sitting position on an average couch, their ears will be centered to all the drivers.
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Have you compared the IV/a to V or VI? What is your opinion? Thanks.

I have not had that opportunity.

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Just curious, what country are you in that you're paying in Euros? I sold my SC-IV's to a mastering studio in The Netherlands.
I am in the Netherlands. Could be they are yours! (:

I had to pass on that offer. I couldn't get the funds in time and, even though they sounded like nothing I've ever heard before, they are too big and heavy for my room in an 1896 building with wooden floors frown.gif Probably wouldn't even get them up the stairs in one piece...
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I am in the Netherlands. Could be they are yours! (:

Wow! I have to ask; was it Sander from Saint of Sound?
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Wow! I have to ask; was it Sander from Saint of Sound?
Yes, that's him. We did some business together in the past.
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Wow! I have to ask; was it Sander from Saint of Sound?
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Yes, that's him.
What a small, small world! After Sander bought my SC-IV's as speakers #5 and #6 for his studio, he blogged about me having other Dunlavy's and another guy from The Netherlands contacted me about buying my SC-V's. Then after I sold those to him, yet another Dutchman who had just retired to live in the vineyards two hours south of Paris also read about me and I ended up selling him the Sigma's below! (Similar configuration to the IV/A's, with rounded corners all around, thicker walls, different grills, beefed up crossovers, deeper bass extension, weighing 250 lbs. vs the the IV's 180 lbs and the IV/A's 190 lbs. and a base price of $10k)
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These are the Sigma's. Notice the wood wraps around the front a little


Notice the grills don't cover the speakers out to the edges


Beautiful rounded corners everywhere


They're actually called Sigma I
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I sure hope my IV-A's don't crap out before I do. I really do think their something special. I have a pair of Aletha's as backups, but like the midrange of the IV-A's better.

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1)

do you know how cabinet looks inside? it have some division inside?

 

maybe somebody have photo?

 

2)

what speakers set in Dunlavy SC-IV / SC-V / SC-VI ?

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What were people's favorite Dunlavy speakers?
Mine were the Dunlavy 1VA speakers. I never heard the Dunlavy V or V1 speakers so i cant judge them.
The Dunlavy 1VA had this amazing layered soundstage. The drivers blended in perfectly. The bass was really good too.
I also heard the Lipinski speakers at the NY HI Fi Show in 2007.
They do sound alot like Dunlavy.
I heard the Lipinski L‑707 MTM monitor speakers with the Lipinski 15 inch sub.

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Yes, the Lipinski 707 with subs definitely sound a lot like the Dunlavy. Great speakers, but you've got to make sure you match them up with the right amps, which is always the case.
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I had the whisper XD and sold it off within 4 months,

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I just bought a nice set of SC-IVs in oak. I have not had a chance to listen to them or inspect them closely but was wondering how to determine which version I may have. The serial numbers are 536A/B. Any idea when the production change occurred?

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There is a pair of SC-Vs on Audiogon now with textured deck paint finish. Sorry, but the system will not let me link to them. Could be a good deal for a wood refinisher.
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There is a pair of SC-Vs on Audiogon now with textured deck paint finish. Sorry, but the system will not let me link to them. Could be a good deal for a wood refinisher.
The fact that the seller brushes off criticism of using deck paint because he believes the speakers are "party or basement speakers" tells me not a lot of care has gone into them. They've probably been abused. Even at $3500, I still wouldn't buy them. I'd pay $1000 - no more! They've been desecrated!
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I had the whisper XD and sold it off within 4 months,
And I consider myself the very lucky new owner.

What did you get as a replacement?
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Which Dunlavy speakers would you say are better? The Dunlavy 1VA or the Dunlavy V speakers?
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Hello,

It has been a long time. I spent a lot of time and money with the Dunlavy SC-VI external crossovers, but it it was worth it! The sound is now incredibly real. I have used Duelund CAST-cu capacitors and inductors for the primary path, Duelund RS for the secondary paths and Path Audio resistors. It is still in the prototype board, but will soon be in the final board and enclosure.

Please read the story and see the pictures (cut and past the link if you are not redirected):

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?vaslt&1206661296&view

I also changed the tweeters to the Seas Crescendo, which was a great upgrade. They are not only much better and a drop in replacement (you have to increase just a bit the cabinet hole), but can handle more power.

If anyone has a Dunlavy SC-IVa crossover diagram, I would like to talk to you. I would like to compare to the SC-VI crosssover circuit, to understand the differences. Email: [email protected]

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Tweeter for SC-IV

Does anyone remember the part/manufacturer for the tweeter on the SC-IV, circa 1998, serial 931A/B.


I had an unfortunate accident about a month ago not by my hands. I'm a bit upset, but that's life. I'll need to get a replacement tweeter and while it won't be to Dunlavy's extreme spec, hopefully it will be close enough. Would it be advised to replace both for better balance?
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Does anyone remember the part/manufacturer for the tweeter on the SC-IV, circa 1998, serial 931A/B.


I had an unfortunate accident about a month ago not by my hands. I'm a bit upset, but that's life. I'll need to get a replacement tweeter and while it won't be to Dunlavy's extreme spec, hopefully it will be close enough. Would it be advised to replace both for better balance?

I have a couple of bookmarks I've kept for time of need. See if any of this helps you.

http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com...er-replacement

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/mast...avy-parts.html

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Does anyone remember the part/manufacturer for the tweeter on the SC-IV, circa 1998, serial 931A/B.


I had an unfortunate accident about a month ago not by my hands. I'm a bit upset, but that's life. I'll need to get a replacement tweeter and while it won't be to Dunlavy's extreme spec, hopefully it will be close enough. Would it be advised to replace both for better balance?
Michael,

Please remove the tweeter and read directly what is the model. If it is that same tweeter as in the SC-VI then it is a Vifa D27TG-35.

If you choose to replace with a better tweeter, with no need for changes in the crossover, I recommend the Seas T29CF002 (Seas Crescendo). You will have to open up just a little bit the diameter of the enclosure hole for this tweeter to fit. This is the one I currently use and it is MUCH better than the Vifa.

Another option is the SEAS T25CF001.

Yes, you certainly should order a matched pair and replace both tweeters.

Cheers,

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Be careful swapping out the tweeter and I don't recommend using a different model as the key to the Dunlavy performance was the tuning / matching of all the components that was done for each individual speaker at the factory. I had tweeters blow a couple of years back but I had a couple of spare D27TG-35's (was going to use for surround sound speakers to match the Dunlavy mains) and I simply replaced the cone leaving the original basket and magnet (ie. the best chance of the fix still matching the original tuning). I couldn't tell the before / after difference. Dismantling the driver was easy, just a couple of screws on the front of the driver.
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Hey guys,
I am considering selling my Dunlavys after many years of enjoyment.
2 SCIVAs used for fronts
1 HRCC center
4 SCIIIs for rears/sides
2 SCIs for front wides
All speakers are functional. Tweeters have been replaced once on several speakers. Estetically I would rate them 7/10 in general.
What should I ask for them? Should I sell them as a package or individually?
Thanks
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Hey guys,
I am considering selling my Dunlavys after many years of enjoyment.
2 SCIVAs used for fronts
1 HRCC center
4 SCIIIs for rears/sides
2 SCIs for front wides
All speakers are functional. Tweeters have been replaced once on several speakers. Estetically I would rate them 7/10 in general.
What should I ask for them? Should I sell them as a package or individually?
Thanks
I'd sell them seperately for your best value. I sold an HRCC and bought a pair of Aletha's on Audiogon (to back up my IV-A's if they ever crap out, and currently used for rear surrounds). That's been a while, so I can't vouch for Audiogon today. Otherwise, I'd probably do the classifieds at Audio Asylum or Ebay (though high % take) before Craigslist.

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