Originally Posted by cannga
, product to be used at show is not necessarily the “product to own” as each of us has completely different priority and personal taste. Your point is getting more silly by the minute and we are going in circle so please let’s bring the silly argument to an end. I would suggest you start another thread titled “Trinnov the Product to Own,” please. It’s called netiquette.
This is also just a theory based upon some personal experience. Trinnov is using the "human" element to capture market share. I remember speaking with a very talented in audio AND sales representative, when the information junkie that I am inquired about technical aspects of the processor. Trinnov appears to be directly marketing to users and here's the guess part, dealers of other products. I can't fathom why they wouldn't also be reaching out directly to dealers with the sale pitch I got. When I look at the build quality of the processor and the asking price of Trinnov, I think there could be a lot more room to allow more profit in it for a dealer? That may be why we are seeing them at shows.
The arguments made to me were compelling. Had I not be "burned" with the experience of investing in 30K of electronics in a company new to the field that was soon out of business, I would have been swayed! Trinnov is using extremely competent professionals for both sales and acoustical tuning. For movies, everyone seems extremely happy with the processor. For the typical pre pro owner, feature have always been more of a selling point. Theta is more geared to the audiophile crowd, hence the highest built quality of the current high-end processors!
The Casablanca IVa is really a top notch hardware build with dacs that have I believe the highest signal to noise ratio of any processor. If you compare that to something like Storm Audio, that is using a switch mode power supply, there is no contest on hardware. Theta didn't just change the powers supply. David Reich, I understand spent a great deal of time improving the sonics of the Casablanca with his work on the power supply. The disadvantage of such a high quality build in the Casablanca, is that you don't have the flexibility to be below a certain dealer cost because it's more expensive to build. It has happened before with another once dominant brand having a great dealer profit than Theta.
The arguments made to me were compelling. Had I not be "burned" with the experience of investing in 30K of electronics in a company new to the field that was soon out of business, I would have been swayed! Trinnov is using extremely competent professionals for both sales and acoustical tuning. For movies, everyone seems extremely happy with the processor. For the typical pre pro owner, feature have always been more of a selling point. Theta does need an input to allow for direct streaming to the processor, either USB or Ethernet, like LAST YEAR. Some of the boards were removed from the Casablanca in the IV upgrade. One of those boards had digital inputs and the hardware link could be in it's former board position. I'm not a Roon user but such hardware could also be use to stream with other software like Jriver.
Roon, like Meridian does a great job of marketing. I remember Meridian having me convinced that one needed "apodising" filters. I even contacted Theta to inquire as to why the company wasn't using them! Now, MQA doesn't even use an apodising filter!
That's largely why I started asking several audio engineers that are audiophile their opinion. Roon/RAAT may be a technically superior method for streaming with an ethernet card. I don't think it is superior to using an outboard USB converter into AES/EBU connection. That's extra hardware and inconvenient. Many may feel improved sound quality is trumped by the convenience of having an input that would allow direct streaming to the processor. However I don't think for one min. that sticking a noisy Ethernet card is going to improve sonics because it's directly connected to the hardware. Marketing!