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Most powerful commercially available for Residential maybe, but nowhere near for Pro Audio! I used to live just a few miles from Danley Sound Labs.

http://www.danleysoundlabs.com/the-matterhorn/

There are some YouTube videos out there.

Thanks, yes forty 15" drivers designed for military simulation of ground zero explosion on troops would do it. I can't post the youtube clip now but during frequency sweep it sounds more like a car than a speaker LOL.


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Thanks, yes 40 15" driver designed for military simulation of ground zero explosion on troops would do it. I can't post the youtube clip now but during frequency sweep it sounds more like a car than a speaker LOL.

I've installed a few of their speakers on outdoor patios and pool side theaters, and some of their subwoofers in home theaters. Fun stuff. And yes, the frequency sweep video is entertaining.

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Danley Matterhorn Sweep: Sounds more like a car than a subwoofer .


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(Repost from subwoofer forum - last night)

The JTR Captivator 1400 subwoofer finally came a few days ago, but I couldn't test it because I couldn't carry it to the second floor, and I'm not too keen about getting Home Depot help. My son came home today and together we schlepped the thing upstairs - more pics to come but right now all I have is the pic of the *#^&!^&## stairs that has kept me waiting . Proof that I am not that wimpy LOL - the Captivator is just too big for me to hold/hug with 2 arms and I love it too much to slide it up the hard stairs. Just kidding around guys - I'll get pics of the subwoof up later.

I've been watching San Andreas all week to commit the sound to memory, just for this first audition, so that's what we watched. The rumble was so much my son suggested we stopped after the LA quake. Will post more about the sound later as I have to go to sleep now. Yes, with a silly grin on my face. I should have switched a long time ago. We know about the tremendous output but as a seasoned (and very picky) audiophile, it's the "cleanliness" and "definition" of the bass that stuns me.

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As mentioned earlier, I am a P. guy, and so decided to pick a Porsche automotive color for the subwoofer finish. Porsche Carmona Red is a dark red metallic color. Up close you could see the nice metallic fleck that makes it quite beautiful. The finish is STUNNING & mirror like. It looks similar to a black lacquer, but here dark red.

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Gorgeous sub...

Is that a 2011 Turbo S? I see the ceramic brake calipers? Nice!

I have San Andreas...but haven't tried it yet. Sounds like a good sub work out.
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Gorgeous sub...

Is that a 2011 Turbo S? I see the ceramic brake calipers? Nice!

I have San Andreas...but haven't tried it yet. Sounds like a good sub work out.
Thank you (& The Bogg). Porsche custom paint finish is obviously not needed for behind screen install like yours but if left out in the room, it's quite a looker; I absolutely love it.

My Turbo is 997.1 model year 2008, no Turbo S available yet. Turbo S only came out with your 997.2 generation. But yes my car does have ceramic composite brake, which I added as an option. Thought I was crazy to do it at the time but turned out to be among the best money I've ever spent for this hobby. Who would have thought.

Car has had a few problems lately with fluid leaks from various parts (I don't think the Germans have ever learned to design a working gasket .). Recently I changed clutch to Sachs high pressure plate and AASCO low weight flywheel, add the BBI slave cylinder (remove power assist from clutch) and I'm grinning from ear to ear again.

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Thank you (& The Bogg). Porsche custom paint finish is obviously not needed for behind screen install like yours but if left out in the room, it's quite a looker; I absolutely love it.

My Turbo is 997.1 model year 2008, no Turbo S available yet. Turbo S only came out with your 997.2 generation. But yes my car does have ceramic composite brake, which I added as an option. Thought I was crazy to do it at the time but turned out to be among the best money I've ever spent for this hobby. Who would have thought.

Car has had a few problems lately with fluid leaks from various parts (I don't think the Germans have ever learned to design a working gasket .). Recently I changed clutch to Sachs high pressure plate and AASCO low weight flywheel, add the BBI slave cylinder (remove power assist from clutch) and I'm grinning from ear to ear again.
Great looking car. The color is outstanding! A nice feature about ceramics (as you know) is no brake dust - easy to clean!! My 911 is now 5 years old - knock on wood no mechanical issues. My only mod has been tinting the windows - turned out real nice... Really freshened up the look. Now if only the Michigan weather would allow me to drive it more - it's garaged for 6-7 months each year...

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Great looking car. The color is outstanding! A nice feature about ceramics (as you know) is no brake dust - easy to clean!! My 911 is now 5 years old - knock on wood no mechanical issues. My only mod has been tinting the windows - turned out real nice... Really freshened up the look. Now if only the Michigan weather would allow me to drive it more - it's garaged for 6-7 months each year...


Beautiful car, Turbo S right? Half the year garaged - I feel for you! Mine is a daily driver fortunately and I remain pretty "crazy in love." Right when I leave my house there's a switchback and I have a grin every morning going to work.

BTW, your Turbo with PDK remains the single most terrifying experience I've had :-), purely because of the speed (I used to live next door to a Car & Driver's reviewer and was able to test driver a few cars :-).). The PDK allows boost to NOT drop in between shifts and my goodness it was quick and put my manual Turbo to shame with 1-2-3 shift.

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Yep Turbo S. I've had mine for a few years now and it still thrills me to drive. It is crazy fast - ! Awesome cars. When I had a manual, I worked on my heal and toe shifting - never very good at it. But I liked the feel and connection to the car with the manual. I wonder how much longer Porsche will be manufacturing them... PDK was an easy cop out (though my car wasn't even available in a manual) !

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Yep Turbo S. I've had mine for a few years now and it still thrills me to drive. It is crazy fast - ! Awesome cars. When I had a manual, I worked on my heal and toe shifting - never very good at it. But I liked the feel and connection to the car with the manual. I wonder how much longer Porsche will be manufacturing them... PDK was an easy cop out (though my car wasn't even available in a manual) !
Yep unfortunately manual may be a thing of the past, eventually, the more reason for me to hold on to my manual car. Either transmission, we are VERY lucky to own this car. My clutch was changed at BBI Motorsports and while it was there I was busy drooling over a beautiful 991 GT3 RS (in purple!) and Cayman GT4. One thing for sure, P. guys could never have enough of Porsche .

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(More audio porn)

As mentioned, what took me by surprise was not the tremendous output of the Captivator 1400, this is already well known, but how "clean" and "defined" the bass is. San Andreas is all about grunt, growl, and roar LOL; the building grunts, growls, and roars, the earth grunts, growls, and roars. Some of these noises are actually very quiet and subtle, and rise menacingly from a quiet background, and yet others are meant to be totally destructive and violent in nature, to make audience run for cover. The 1400 makes the pitch of these sounds clearly defined, with nice distinction of character for each sound. It makes me pay attention to hear these less as generic noise of an earthquake, more as extremely interesting and varying sound effects that the sound engineer has put in the mix. We buy the Cap 1400 for its fantastic CEA-2010 numbers in ultra low bass, but I believe it equally shines and flexes its muscles in the equally critical mid bass 30-40 hz area, both objectively (numbers) and subjectively (what we hear). Subwoofers with outstanding ultra low bass CEA measurements in general has outstanding mid bass numbers as well, and this is another reason why you should own this baby.

As for the famous output capability of this Captivator, a little past midnight during the first listening session, the room rumbled and shook so much my son (who thankfully just got the nod from a US medical school) told me to stop the movie. We couldn't tell how much of these rumblings were being transmitted to neighbors, and in view of chucky7's experience with his ;-), didn't want to take a chance.

More audio porn to show off the stunning mirror like finish of the paint. Even now in the back of the room, the subwoofer in its Porsch Carmona Red finish is an absolute stunner of a looker . So many audio gears I've had over the years and this might just be the prettiest one of them all. For shutterbugs: Camera Canon 1D, lenses Canon 35mm 1.4 and Zeiss 21mm 2.8, shot in raw. LP on the ground of last picture: Ella and Louis Again, Reissue Vinyl on MFSL - Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab (check the unfortunate $$$ gouging on ebay for this reissue).













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As mentioned, what took me by surprise was not the tremendous output of the Captivator 1400, this is already well known, but how "clean" and "defined" the bass is. San Andreas is all about grunt, growl, and roar LOL; the building grunts, growls, and roars, the earth grunts, growls, and roars. Some of these noises are actually very quiet and subtle, and rise menacingly from a quiet background, and yet others are meant to be totally destructive and violent in nature, to make audience run for cover. The 1400 makes the pitch of these sounds clearly defined, with nice distinction of character for each sound. It makes me pay attention to hear these less as generic noise of an earthquake, more as extremely interesting and varying sound effects that the sound engineer has put in the mix. We buy the Cap 1400 for its fantastic CEA-2010 numbers in ultra low bass, but I believe it equally shines and flexes its muscles in the equally critical mid bass 30-40 hz area, both objectively (numbers) and subjectively (what we hear). Subwoofers with outstanding ultra low bass CEA measurements in general has outstanding mid bass numbers as well, and this is another reason why you should own this baby.

As for the famous output capability of this Captivator, a little past midnight during the first listening session, the room rumbled and shook so much my son (who thankfully just got the nod from a US medical school) told me to stop the movie. We couldn't tell how much of these rumblings were being transmitted to neighbors, and in view of chucky7's experience with his ;-), didn't want to take a chance.

More audio porn to show off the stunning mirror like finish of the paint. Even now in the back of the room, the subwoofer in its Porsch Carmona Red finish is an absolute stunner of a looker . So many audio gears I've had over the years and this might just be the prettiest one of them all. For shutterbugs: Camera Canon 1D, lenses Canon 35mm 1.4 and Zeiss 21mm 2.8, shot in raw. LP on the ground of last picture: Ella and Louis Again, Reissue Vinyl on MFSL - Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab (check the unfortunate $$$ gouging on ebay for this reissue).













Very nice setup and room!
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Very nice setup and room!
Thanks for the nice comment. The newest addition is totally "bling," but I LOVE looking at it.

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You really get an idea how big it is when you see it beside your Thiels and the Krell amp - I had the same amp (gave it to my bro as my speakers are now all active) and it ain't small, lol.

AFAIK, P doesn't make any cars in manual anymore. I'm hanging on to my 07. I preemptively had the coolant lines pinned when getting other stuff done to the car. Leaky fluids = leaky wallet. You're right that the turbo S maintains boost while shifting the pdk but the solution to our "problem" is more power - in my case Champion 68 turbos which increase the smiley face when driving.
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Beautiful cars Gents! Here's my toy. Ruf 3400K (true Ruf Vin car). Gorgeous sub by the way!
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Wow, unique and VERY beautiful!

BTW I live in a mountainous area with plenty of curvy roads and hence understand mid-engine Cayman's handling very well. I loved it when the dealer gave me a Cayman/Boxster loaner; the motion feels so much "cleaner" and quicker than even my heavily modified Bilstein Turbo. Was looking at a GT4 the other day when my car was in for service - *extremely* tempting to say the least.

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AFAIK, P doesn't make any cars in manual anymore. I'm hanging on to my 07. I preemptively had the coolant lines pinned when getting other stuff done to the car. Leaky fluids = leaky wallet. You're right that the turbo S maintains boost while shifting the pdk but the solution to our "problem" is more power - in my case Champion 68 turbos which increase the smiley face when driving.
Sweet, sweet, sweet.

My humble stage 2 Turbo is so scary fast already, I really can't fathom what it feels like to have something like a third/fourth gear pull in your car. I probably would want to jump out of the car LOL.

All this Porsche talk make me feel like I want to post picture of my 911 :-). 1-2-3 go!




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That RUF is smokin' hot!!! Wow!!

I'd like to take that ride to the track!

Well... only 4 more months til mine's out of storage. Enjoying the show here!!!
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Sweet, sweet, sweet.

My humble stage 2 Turbo is so scary fast already, I really can't fathom what it feels like to have something like a third/fourth gear pull in your car. I probably would want to jump out of the car LOL.

All this Porsche talk make me feel like I want to post picture of my 911 :-). 1-2-3 go!



I'm all honesty (and since we're posting), I do have a German winter mistress to take care of me until Spring when my Turbo comes out to play!!
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Sweet, sweet, sweet.

My humble stage 2 Turbo is so scary fast already, I really can't fathom what it feels like to have something like a third/fourth gear pull in your car. I probably would want to jump out of the car LOL.

All this Porsche talk make me feel like I want to post picture of my 911 :-). 1-2-3
I'm all honesty (and since we're posting), I do have a German winter mistress to take care of me until Spring when my Turbo comes out to play!! . (Cayenne S)

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Thanks! Yes I love the Cayman platform, especially with the Ruf suspension. It handles like its on rails. The thing that's great about this Ruf vs a Cayman is it puts out 468HP with its low pressure supercharger, which kicks in at around 4500 rpm. The thing is scary fast as all get out between 4500 and 7500, but acts like a NA car down low with no lag whatsoever due to no turbos. So you get the best of both worlds. This was their 25th Anniversary car. They only made a few. This one was one of the Ruf's personal cars.

Now that we're completely off topic, anyone driven the Tesla P100D yet? That thing will literally make you sick its so quick!
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I know she doesn't really compare, but here she is anyway !



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Owned her for six years whilst living in Dubai.

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Some final thoughts on this ported 18 incher, and pics of its final position in back of room.

I am developing a liking to all the physiological effects of loud bass to my body LOL, from my chest seemingly vibrating to San Andreas's outrageous midbass rumblings, to the "oppressive" pressurizing feel (like you can't breathe) of high level deep bass.

Last and most definitely not least, the effect of better bass on soundstage is fantastic. The same way that adding subwoofer to stereo music increases front soundstage depth and width, adding JTR to movie watching makes the walls of my room disappear in some scenes. I would watch and listen in total awe, transported to the wide open space of the movie scene itself. It's been a pleasure.

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Allow me to share list of movies I vote best for the JTR Captivator 1400 . These have sequences that contain not just deep bass, but powerful mid and high frequency effects. I prefer more wide-band clips because they are more crushing and VIOLENT :-), especially the ones in red. (Please note I'm otherwise a very peaceful person.) Credit goes to "bass heads" on AVS forum that have given me the knowledge + incentive. And yes some of the movies have perhaps questionable plot and acting :-), but believe me the sound is worth it.

Note how many times the name Richard King got mentioned - multiple Oscar winner & nominations; quite a talented audiophile. In fact, as far as audio engineering, two names appear frequently in these blockbusters:
Richard King: War of the World, Master & Commander, Interstellar, Dark Knight
William Files: Cloverfield, Percy Jackson Lightning Thief, 9, Midnight Special


TOP 7
***War of the Worlds: A well known favorite and IMHO still an all-time number-one demo movie. Top of the chart no matter which aspect of sound you are judging. Dramatic, violent, loud, deep. Scenes: Pod emerging - Lightning strike - Freeway overpass collapsing - Airplane crash. Oscar nomination 2005 Richard King (also Interstellar & won 2003 Oscar for Master & Commander & 2008 Oscar for Dark Knight - King is an extremely talented sound engineer and clearly an audiophile).
***Cloverfield This and Interstellar are the most interesting movies of this top group to me. Can't give away the spoiler, but... do turn the volume UP - he he. IMHO the art of movie sound is not all-loud-all-the-time, but silence interrupted with sudden and violent BOOMS :-). And surely, there are multiple, and I repeat, MULTIPLE, booms :-) throughout this movie that are guaranteed to give your subwoofer a workout. Scenes: Chapter 5 20:30 Building collapses Chapter 6 27:30 Monster on bridge Chapter 8 35:00 Army attack Chapter 14 1:06:00 Helicopter crash Chapter 15 1:08:00 Final encounter. Sound engineer William Files (also involved in a ton of other blockbusters: Percy Jackson Lightning Thief, 9, Midnight Special).
***The Incredible Hulk Three words to describe the sound of this movie: ridiculously, ridiculously, VIOLENT :-). This is another all time classic like War of the Worlds and is an recommended buy without reservation, for the sound. Thunderous, deep, loud, FUN! Scenes: Chap 5 (0:25:50) Encounter at Brazil factory - Chap 10 (0:54:50) Encounter in the park with sonic cannons - Chap 17 (1:32:50) Fight against Abomination
***Live Free or Die Hard: Scenes: Chap 5 Attack at apartment - Contains one of THE most satisfactory bomb explosions ever recorded on Bluray :-). An absolutely frightening BOOM! "expanding" outward from the center speaker. ALSO: Chapter 15 Collisions in the tunnel. Chapter 23 Gas Explosion. Chapter 33 Jet Attack: Off-the-chart dynamic (read VERY loud LOL) sound effects with jet flyover's, ultra low freq freeway collapses, and devastating missile explosions. This chapter makes me smile and justifies every cent I've spent on subwoofers and my sound system. :-) In short, not a very "catchy" topic/name for a movie, but top 10 all-time for sound, NO DOUBT!
***Interstellar: Mostly a mid-bass dominated movie, but nevertheless, in all my years of fooling around with audio, this is probably the most prominent example yet of sounds (NOT the physical vibration, just sounds) that give me an illusion that objects are physically shaking in my room (think about it :-)). An intense, very intense, sonic experience that makes me feel like I were there (and isn't that what this is all about?). Oscar nomination best sound editing/mixing 2014 Richard King. Scenes: Liftoff (oh my goodness!) - Entering worm hole (holy macaroni :-)) - In Gargantua (OMG!).
***San Andreas: Like Interstellar, a sonic AND visual tour de force, with outrageous mid-bass output. 3 memorable scenes: Earthquake in Los Angeles - Earthquake in San Franciscio - Tsunami. This is the movie I turn to if I've had a bad day at work :-). Hold on to you chair boys and girls.
***Dredd A 5-star bass blockbuster with an extremely polished bass mix, and also quite a tongue-in-cheek fun action movie. I am just not content with hearing explosions anymore (War Horse for example) because it gets boring after a while, so I'm happy that in Dredd, the bass mix is sophisticated with a variety of bass effects, and therefore so much more interesting. My son the movie buff and I both loved it. Available for pennies on ebay and therefore *extremely* highly recommended. There are other movies (NOT many) with perhaps "louder" bass, but this is top 7 because it has "sophisticated" bass :-). Scenes: Chapter 2 5:50 - Chapter 7 Lock down; door dropping - Chapter 10: Opens with an explosion that would clean your ears and followed by complete mayhem. Of note, at 51:38 an extremely menacing rumbling came on as Dredd tortured Kay. So subtle yet adds so much to the experience - listen to see if your subwoofer highlights this, I love it!


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***How To Train Your Dragon: It's been many years since I enjoyed watching a cartoon, so the fact that I mention this one at at all speaks to its tremendous low frequency prowess. Throughout most of this movie I was yawning and wondering why it's so famous, then I got to the ending. Goodness, the triad 1:12:50 cave opening, 1:14:10 dragon emerging, 1:22:45 dragon crash at 1:22:45 is the equal of anything I have ever heard in audio over the last 20 years. An absolute can't miss for any lover of sound and for all JTR owners. My whole house was shaking and flexing - it is SO... MUCH... FUN... Please, do not miss this.
***Underworld: Awakening: Absolutely balls to the wall sound :-) of the highest pedigree. If this were a better movie, it would have tied War of the Worlds for number one spot. Problem is, it's kind of a ho-hum flick so it has to lead the second tier, but make not mistake about the sound. SEVERAL moments of clean, most powerful mid bass and deep bass, from beginning to end. 23:20 (lycans), 43:50 (footsteps).
***Battle: Los Angeles This movie is proof that we should buy as many Blu Ray as possible because one, they are all so much fun, and two, not all explosions sound the same - they are all beautiful in different ways. This thing is deep and loud. Actually, in-your-face VERY deep, and VERY loud :-). Scenes: Chapter 3 20:45 Helicopter arriving to LA Chapter 9 56:00 Alien aircraft up close (love the sophisticated exhaust sound!) Chapter 10: Battle at the bridge - 1:05:50 "What the hell is that thing?" LOL 20:45 Mothership taking off - the mother of all explosions.
***Percy Jackson & The Olympians: The Lightning Thief: Not continuous bass but what's there has no equal. 38:30 Hades appearance 1:06:00 Hydra attack - wow!. Down to 10 Hz and so powerful I had to check all my speakers after the movie. 1:36:00 Percy and Luke fight. 1:40:45 Arriving to Mt. Olympus (what on earth was that explosion?). Also, unfortunately not such a good movie; I admit all I paid attention to was the sound, not the plot :-).
***Ragnarok: What movie has guttural monster screams that BEAT the COMBINED effort of Jurassic Park and Desolation of Mauch? Ragnarok! Effects are wide-band (high and low freq combined, not just low, which is not as exciting to me), and make the sound utterly brutal. The movie is an all-time bass classic the caliber of War of the Worlds, with single digit and up frequency response. The plot is a barely-ok copy of ***spoiler alert*** some famous dinosaur movie, and something that I would not have watched twice. But... as it were, with the bass, I'm on my third helping LOL. The bass is off the chart and rocks my hometheater repeatedly. So much so my son came into the room just to see what on earth was going on. Sound mixes like this don't come often, and for that, I will be buying.
Scenes: 00:56:30 Cave encounter 00:59:00 - Container pull - 1:09:00 Crossing the lake - a spectacular buildup to the snap (@ 1:09:50 OMG) - 1:12:00 Chase in tunnel - fantastically loud chase music - 1:20:00 Allan's demise - 1:23:30 Final encounter
***Flight of the Phoenix: Scenes: Chapter 5 & 6 Sand storm & plane crash - Chapter 17 Explosion - Chapter 35 Plane taking of. Amazing mix, lots of low bass. There's nothing better than watching to a bad storm in movie, except for... an airplane in a bad storm in a movie! :-)
***Edge of Tomorrow The now famous opening minute of the movie has a series of pulses at 30, 25, 20, 15, 10 hz that are not just (obviously) low, but loud as well and may cause the woofers to jump out of the cabinet :-)... you've been warned. Every halving of frequency increases excursion by 4 (from 30 to 15 to 7.5 hz, your subwoofer driver moves 16 times more), and by looking (not listening) you could tell which one is the 10 hz killer LOL.
***War Horse A quiet movie until chapter 21 and 22, then all hell broke loose with the first cannon shot that caused me to almost fall off my chair LOL. War Horse reminds me very much of the artillery barrage of Master and Commander (DVD not Bluray). Anyone here into non stop loud and house-lifting cannon shots - buy this.
***Deep Water Horizon:*** There is something about these bubbly low bass sound effects - very addicting.
***Super 8: Scenes: Train wreck - Bus crash & attack. Train wreck sequence is a well crafted perfect 10 coordination between screen action and sound effects that is also a topic of discussion by pro's Click Here). So real it's frightening; frequently makes my audience physically "duck" the flying debris. IMHO this is a must-have show-off demo and among my all time favorites. Talented sound editor is Benn Burt (voice of R2D2, light saber hum, breathing sound of Darth Vader, etc.).
***Everest: Atmos and 3D. Scenes: Chapter 14 Arrival of the storm - Chapter 16 Avalanche
***Olympus Has Fallen Scenes: Washington Monument
***Gravity: I think movie is ok only but sound is without reproach. Unbelievably good deep bass from beginning to end, spectacular visuals that are well coordinated with amazing sound effects. Oscar winner 2013 sound editing and mixing Glenn Freemantle
***Mad Max Fury Road: 2015 Oscar winner for both Sound Mixing and Editing Mark Mangini and David White. A big fan of sports car's exhaust sound, I use the opening clip to evaluate mid bass "power." My criticism of this double Oscar winner is this: it's just one very lousy and "noisy" movie. Too much of a loud assault to the ears, where the *ART* IMHO is silence interpersing with sonic mayhems.
***Dark Knight: Scenes: Chapter 20 Tunnel Car Chase-Chapter 30 Hospital Exploding. Needs no introduction; long a favorite among nutty bassheads. 2008 Oscar winner sound editing Richard King.
*** Lord of the Rings Fellowship of the Ring: 2001 Oscar nomination Best Sound Christopher Boyes et al. Scense: Bridge of Khazad Dum: 'nuff said!
***Lord of the Rings: Two Towers 2002 Clips: Gandalf falls - Nazgul Black Riders over dead marshes. Oscar Winner for Sound Effects Mike Hopkins and Ehtna Van der Rynand Oscar Nomination for Sound Mixing
***Lord of the Rings Return of the King 2003 Oscar Winner Sound Mixing Christopher Boyes et al.


3D Yes I'm a fan, mostly for scenic type movies.
***Echanted Kingdom: Best of all nature type Blu-ray that I have seen. Visually and "sonically" arresting.
***Point Break: The plot is marginal, although it is not un-interesting :-). Other than that: Fantastic stunt work, amazing cinematography, wonderful sound and powerful bass.
***Flight of the Butterflies: For sissies - kidding. Made for 3D - trust me you'll like the visual effects.


"MUSIC/MUSICAL"
*** Chicago: Cell block Tango - one of my all time favorites - Queen Latifah's in night club. Musical, intensely physical - not the sound, the dancers :-). I love watching how powerful and beautiful the young dancers are. Oh... how about the sound? So dynamic - very much so, yet silky smooth voice and high end, transparent and layered soundstage. This is my "musical" demo. 2002 Oscar winner for Sound Mixing Michael Minkler, David Lee, and Dominick Tavella
*** Roy Orbison Black and White Night: A awesome classic - if only for those w/ more "classic" music taste LOL. Recorded and produced by an audiophile - T Bone Bennett and that explains the great sound. Wish I were there - sigh. https://www.amazon.com/Roy-Orbison-B...+night+blu+ray
***Blue Man Group Audio*** (Audio is title of release) - DVD-Audio Format (Come in Blu-ray size case - you do NOT want the CD.): https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Man-Grou.../dp/B000051S65. This is one of the most awesome demo disc I've come across; and I've come across many. It will rock your room I promise. I got mine off of ebay for $3 but even new one should only be around $10 or so; again just make sure that it's the correct disc you are buying. Some of my favorite tracks:
2 PVC IV: I'm not gonna say anything. Just turn it to max LOL. Un****believeable.
3 TV Song: An onslaught of impossibly big, huge drums, huge space, border of room disappears. I am in awe.
9 Club Nowhere: Fantastic and menacing bass rumbling. What a "backside" JTR massage.
13 Klein Mandelbrot: Some drum wacks guaranteed to clean out your ears. Goodness.
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I have one more disc I would like to recommend, without reservation, to all lovers of bass please, and definitely to all JTR owners. Courtesy of @Mark Seaton : Blue Man Group Audio, DVD-A format (Audio is actually the title of the release). https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Man-Grou.../dp/B000051S65. Sorry if this is old news to you - it's just that I've just now come across the disc.

Be careful **NOT** to buy the CD version; you want the DVD-Audio version, which comes in a case similar to a Blu-ray disc. Single disc inside the box: one side is DVD lossy format (DTS and Dolby Digital), you don't want to play this side, the other side is lossless DVD Audio, high resolution 5.1 AFAIK. You definitely want to play the DVD-Audio side.

This is one of the most awesome demo disc I've come across; and I've come across many. It will rock your room I promise. I got mine off of ebay for $3 but even new one should only be around $10 or so; again just make sure that it's the correct disc you are buying. Some of my favorite tracks:
2 PVC IV: I'm not gonna say anything. Just turn it to max LOL. Un****believeable.
3 TV Song: An onslaught of impossibly big, huge drums, huge space, border of room disappears. I am in awe.
9 Club Nowhere: Fantastic and menacing bass rumbling. What a "backside" JTR massage.
13 Klein Mandelbrot: Some drum wacks guaranteed to clean out your ears. Goodness.

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