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I’m thinking about adding another Strato in a different room, does it need to be hardwired to connect with my strato in my main system? Or can it be used over WiFi?

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https://thedigitalbits.com/featured/...-entertainment

New feature article to share. I'm hoping Bill starts covering Kaleidescape regularly going forward. Give him some site visits.
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New feature article to share. I'm hoping Bill starts covering Kaleidescape regularly going forward. Give him some site visits.
Good article. Unfortunately disc players and discs will continue to decline and run out in the next probably few years. Covid-19 has perhaps accellerated this.

I think with all this Kaleisdescape has a bright future!
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I’m thinking about adding another Strato in a different room, does it need to be hardwired to connect with my strato in my main system? Or can it be used over WiFi?
Both players need to be hardwired into your network. Also, all switches need to be 1G. SJ
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https://thedigitalbits.com/featured/...-entertainment

New feature article to share. I'm hoping Bill starts covering Kaleidescape regularly going forward. Give him some site visits.
Great article for sure. I have been thinking physical discs will eventually go away as well, which is why I invested in Kaleidescape. It's a great system, but a huge miss is that when we purchase a title from Kaleidescape, we are not given a digital token/rights to stream the content on another service, like when purchasing a physical disc.

Kaleidescape REALLY needs to fix that soon. Once it is, I would most likely purchase most of my titles from the K-Store. Until then, it's the shiny disc.
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I love my Strato yet if all I had was the Kaleidescape store as my choice I'd not be in this hobby very long.

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How do you guys decide whether to wait for a movie to show up in the KStore (with no prediction of when a certain title may be available) vs springing for the shiny disc? For example, Gandhi 4K or the Laurel and Hardy restored movies or so many others that are coming out on Shiny discs but there's no clear indication of when these may be available in KStore.....
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How do you guys decide whether to wait for a movie to show up in the KStore (with no prediction of when a certain title may be available) vs springing for the shiny disc? For example, Gandhi 4K or the Laurel and Hardy restored movies or so many others that are coming out on Shiny discs but there's no clear indication of when these may be available in KStore.....
Do whatever feels right for you. Nothing wrong with having discs for movies you care about. No too much different than non K owners who want the 350+ movies available on 4K from K that our not available on disc... SJ
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Kaleidescape's new NBC Universal movies with Dolby Atmos or DTS:X on 4k disc seem to be coming to Kaleidescape with these audio codecs as well. How about older NBC Universal movies, such as "Apollo 13". Kaleidescape lists as DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 whereas the 4k disc has DTS:X as well. Is Kaleidescape in the process of doing audio codec updates for these older NBC Universal movies where discs have been issued with the better audio codecs?

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Kaleidescape's new NBC Universal movies with Dolby Atmos or DTS:X on 4k disc seem to be coming to Kaleidescape with these audio codecs as well. How about older NBC Universal movies, such as "Apollo 13". Kaleidescape lists as DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 whereas the 4k disc has DTS:X as well. Is Kaleidescape in the process of doing audio codec updates for these older NBC Universal movies where discs have been issued with the better audio codecs?

From the first announcement the answer is YES even Fox the mention about ready made title buy still we don’t see


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Kaleidescape's new NBC Universal movies with Dolby Atmos or DTS:X on 4k disc seem to be coming to Kaleidescape with these audio codecs as well. How about older NBC Universal movies, such as "Apollo 13". Kaleidescape lists as DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 whereas the 4k disc has DTS:X as well. Is Kaleidescape in the process of doing audio codec updates for these older NBC Universal movies where discs have been issued with the better audio codecs?
COVID is slowing down access to NBCU catalog titles and the upcoming Fox updates. As I understand things, much of Hollywood remains out of office and in a reduced mode of work.

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Kaleidescape's new NBC Universal movies with Dolby Atmos or DTS:X on 4k disc seem to be coming to Kaleidescape with these audio codecs as well. How about older NBC Universal movies, such as "Apollo 13". Kaleidescape lists as DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 whereas the 4k disc has DTS:X as well. Is Kaleidescape in the process of doing audio codec updates for these older NBC Universal movies where discs have been issued with the better audio codecs?
I didn't think there was a single DTS:X title in KStore. Is it there and is it filterable like the Atmos collection?
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COVID is slowing down access to NBCU catalog titles and the upcoming Fox updates. As I understand things, much of Hollywood remains out of office and in a reduced mode of work.
https://www.kaleidescape.com/movie-s...ollection/dtsx shows the current list of DTS:X-encoded films available on the K-store. It's almost 50 currently.

I have a source very well connected with Hollywood and my source states that most of Hollywood being more-or-less shut down due to COVID is quite correct. Some folks have studios in their homes, of course, but most of the "communal" facilities like dubbing stages are pretty much shut down.
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I got an Alto, along with my Terra Server and Strato C. The Alto in the Kaleidescape brochure is listed as an Encore line component as well. So am I correct that I do not need the CoStar switch or software (just use Strato C and also Alto HDMI outputs), and that any movies available at the KScape store at an upgrade price (for blu rays I own and insert into the Alto) will be added to my online Kaleidsecape collection?

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Hi all! I am looking to up my video performance by with a Kaleidescape player and a Lumagen Pro processor.

I am totally new to Kaleidescape and will be looking to buy on the used market. Are any of the Strato models the proper gear for me to be looking for? Are there any gotchas a new guy should be aware of?

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I got an Alto, along with my Terra Server and Strato C. The Alto in the Kaleidescape brochure is listed as an Encore line component as well. So am I correct that I do not need the CoStar switch or software (just use Strato C and also Alto HDMI outputs), and that any movies available at the KScape store at an upgrade price (for blu rays I own and insert into the Alto) will be added to my online Kaleidsecape collection?
What are you using the Alto for? Normally you would pair the Alto with a DV700. If you want an integrated library view, this requires costar. Therefore, your entire library would show up integrated and you would insert a disc into your Alto to play (vs the Alto playing discs stored in the DV700). There is a switch to control HDMI output or use your Lumagen. Either requires a costar license if you want an integrated library. You could run them separate and then the alto would show physical discs you have cataloged and your Strato would show only downloaded movies. Also, if you don’t have costar, the Alto would also show any HD movies you have downloaded to your Terra. SJ
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I am totally new to Kaleidescape and will be looking to buy on the used market. Are any of the Strato models the proper gear for me to be looking for? Are there any gotchas a new guy should be aware of?

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What are you using the Alto for? Normally you would pair the Alto with a DV700. If you want an integrated library view, this requires costar. Therefore, your entire library would show up integrated and you would insert a disc into your Alto to play (vs the Alto playing discs stored in the DV700). There is a switch to control HDMI output or use your Lumagen. Either requires a costar license if you want an integrated library. You could run them separate and then the alto would show physical discs you have cataloged and your Strato would show only downloaded movies. Also, if you don’t have costar, the Alto would also show any HD movies you have downloaded to your Terra. SJ
Just got the Alto today. Guess what - I do not need CoStar, if I only have my Terra Server, Strato C, and Alto, the Alto integrates with my pre-existing Encore system. Really cool And any DVD and blu ray I insert, I have a choice of cataloging it into my system - and then if I choose a movie or concert which is cataloged (whether from KStore or a disc I've cataloged via Alto), if I need the disc inserted in the Alto it tells me and I insert the disc.
Very cool! So I will be able to see on screen my entire disc collection, and for those not on my Terra Server, I can simply insert and play them via the Alto. Very Very COOL!
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How is it handling playing a physical disc from the Alto? Are you manually selecting that HDMI input? I must be missing something. With costar, you have an integrated view (from the Strato) of movie downloads and physical discs that you own (which you have inserted into the Alto and cataloged). You can then select a movie (from the Strato). If it is a movie download, it will play directly from the Strato. If it is a physical disc, you would then insert it into the Alto (if you also had a DV700 you would not do this) and when you hit play, costar would then switch the HDMI output to the Alto. Seems without costar, you would be managing the library separately and not everything would show up on one system. Which might be OK anyway. Some folks prefer. Regardless, glad things are working! SJ
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How is it handling playing a physical disc from the Alto? Are you manually selecting that HDMI input? I must be missing something. With costar, you have an integrated view (from the Strato) of movie downloads and physical discs that you own (which you have inserted into the Alto and cataloged). You can then select a movie (from the Strato). If it is a movie download, it will play directly from the Strato. If it is a physical disc, you would then insert it into the Alto (if you also had a DV700 you would not do this) and when you hit play, costar would then switch the HDMI output to the Alto. Seems without costar, you would be managing the library separately and not everything would show up on one system. Which might be OK anyway. Some folks prefer. Regardless, glad things are working! SJ
My theater is down for upgrade and renovation Strato C is in basement old 5.1 system for now conected via HDMI to Onkyo receiver. Alto is in bedroom connected direct to HDMI input of a 2014 LG 4k but non-HDR tv. Playing either player gets me to my ONE Kaleidescape interface, which in settings shows both players. CoStar as I understand allows you to have, with physical CoStar switch or Lumagen CoStar software, one HDMI input instead of 2 both players. So when my theater is done, I may well get CoStar software for Lumagen so that all Kaleidescape players, Strato C and Alto, are combined into one HDMI source on the Lumagen Radiance Pro. Keep in mind Alto is an Encore, not a Premiere, component Now if I add a DV-700 Premiere Disc Vault, then I must have CoStar to integrate the DV-700 Premiere with the Encore Terra Server and Strato C. Again, from my initial experimentation today (I have more to do in coming days), my entire pre-existing Terra Server menu and discs come up when I hit "Menu" on remote for the Alto, the library is combined YEA!
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What if you use an Alto without a Costar? I have a single Terra and a couple Strato S players. Would you still be able to store movies on the same Terra my Stratos do?

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Yes, the Alto should play any HD or DVD quality movie stored on the Terra. Just not any 4K HDR. This may require you to download an additional copy. You can also store HD movies on the Alto, but the system will default to your Terra for downloads (if on). SJ
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I setup the Alto with my prior Strato C (Terra Server in home office upstairs) with my Lumagen Radiance Pro (when my theater gets back up these components all go in theater) and I am getting the combined menu of 4k, blu ray and dvds. YEA! However, I've checked with Kaleidescape and in order to play everything properly, this does require getting the CoStar software, which I'll have tomorrow, with the Alto and Strato C each connected via HDMI to the Radiance Pro, however they recommend since the Radiance Pro has dual HDMI input cards to use separate HDMI inputs with at least one HDMI input inbetween as one connects via HDMI.

I setup my disc racks in my unused living room! I have already taken several hundred concert blu rays and DVDs and using the Alto I've entered and categorized them in my Kaleidescape system. So if I select that concert, the display simply tells me to insert the disc because its not hard drive of the Terra Server or Alto.

I have many 4k discs which the digital copy in Kaleidescape is only blu ray. I have setup a new Kaleidescape category "4k Player insert disc) to tell me if I want to play that movie to simply play the 4k disc on my Pioneer UDP-LX500 4k player. Also, if I want I can erase the blu ray on the Kaleidescape hard drive, then reinsert the blu ray version of the 4k movie, re-enter and categorize the movie. Very nice!

And of course I have lots of blu rays not on my Kaleidescape hard drives. I can enter and categorize each blu ray movie onto the Kaleidescape system, and as the movie is not on the hard drive, it will tell me to insert the disc. Very nice indeed.

Very impressed with the Alto. Seems very very well built and very solid construction.
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