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What are they learning? What will be different for their next models? New OEM partners? Dirac?

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Good late evening gents..I need some help. I just installed some atoms enabled up-firing speakers. I get sounds while testing the speakers and also got sounds when running RP. I set it up as explained earlier in this thread by enabling the front R and L speakers and hooked the inputs up accordingly. When playing a disc that has Atmos I get no sound out of those speakers. I checked multiple settings on my Oppo 203 and the 160 but can't figure out why there is no sound. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you.
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Good late evening gents..I need some help. I just installed some atoms enabled up-firing speakers. I get sounds while testing the speakers and also got sounds when running RP. I set it up as explained earlier in this thread by enabling the front R and L speakers and hooked the inputs up accordingly. When playing a disc that has Atmos I get no sound out of those speakers. I checked multiple settings on my Oppo 203 and the 160 but can't figure out why there is no sound. Any help would be appreciated! Thank you.
How many speakers do you have total, and in what configuration? When playing back your Atmos disc, if you press the "info" button, what does it report for the current speaker configuration mode (e.g. 7.1.4)?
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How many speakers do you have total, and in what configuration? When playing back your Atmos disc, if you press the "info" button, what does it report for the current speaker configuration mode (e.g. 7.1.4)?
I am running 5.2.2. When pressing the info I read that it is doing atoms but can't get the OSD as I run the Oppo display through the TV by itself and the audio through the 160.
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I am running 5.2.2. When pressing the info I read that it is doing atoms but can't get the OSD as I run the Oppo display through the TV by itself and the audio through the 160.
Do you hear sound out of the upfiring if you play music using the Dolby Upmixer? You should be able to cycle through the "info" displays on the front panel, when repeatedly pressing the info button, too.
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It does work with Dolby up mixer. I am going to try a few things and post back. Thankfully I am off today!
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I wish I could upload an image but my mac doesn't seem to allow it
Are you attempting to capture the MX160 screen from your Mac?

If so:

Shift+Command+4 and draw a square around the image you want to capture.

Then drop the graphic from the Mac Desktop to the message area: "Drag Files Here to Attach"
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It does work with Dolby up mixer. I am going to try a few things and post back. Thankfully I am off today!

Not sure if related

The 3.0.8 version of the MP-50 mentions:

3.0.8
- Bugfix Wake-up time from standby
- Bugfix Dolby enabled speakers

https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...l#post56821626

I'm guessing this firmware will soon be available to MX160 owners.
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Not sure if related

The 3.0.8 version of the MP-50 mentions:

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https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...l#post56821626

I'm guessing this firmware will soon be available to MX160 owners.
Hope they release this update soon!!
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Joe has it if you want an early release.... SJ
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Joe has it if you want an early release.... SJ
What I have is not being called 3.08 though. It does fix Dolby enabled speakers. A couple have said it improves sound but I was told there shouldn’t be any other differences which is why I have been sitting on it. It does take a little bit to update. If anyone wants it I think it is safe but again if you’re not doing Dolby Enabled speakers you may not notice anything different. If anyone wants to give it a whirl let me know.
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What I have is not being called 3.08 though. It does fix Dolby enabled speakers. A couple have said it improves sound but I was told there shouldn’t be any other differences which is why I have been sitting on it. It does take a little bit to update. If anyone wants it I think it is safe but again if you’re not doing Dolby Enabled speakers you may not notice anything different. If anyone wants to give it a whirl let me know.
Sorry, I thought he was talking about the last version which you mentioned in a previous post. Got my numbers mixed up as the last one fixed Auro 3D for some of us. SJ
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I know their is a thread someplace regarding UHD HD projectors, I need a quick recommendation for one. I bought a house with a super home theatre room, I'll be setting up my MX 160 and mac amps in there. The
projector they have is just HD. Can someone point me in the direction or give guidance of what is really important vs what is not? Lumins??? Anyway I am a neophyte on this stuff.

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I know their is a thread someplace regarding UHD HD projectors, I need a quick recommendation for one. I bought a house with a super home theatre room, I'll be setting up my MX 160 and mac amps in there. The
projector they have is just HD. Can someone point me in the direction or give guidance of what is really important vs what is not? Lumins??? Anyway I am a neophyte on this stuff.

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I know their is a thread someplace regarding UHD HD projectors, I need a quick recommendation for one. I bought a house with a super home theatre room, I'll be setting up my MX 160 and mac amps in there. The
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Peter this is the thread you should be following, all three models are due out soon. https://www.avsforum.com/forum/24-di...on-thread.html

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Or this one, if you like Sony projectors:

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Thanks, its a 120 inch screen, as regards gain and aspect ratio I don't even know enough about them to ask a follow up question. I'll check out those threads, I did say neophyte right?
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*ADDING THIS UNDER MX160 OWNER'S THREAD*

Replacing McIntosh MX151. Deciding between MX160 and Lyngdorf MP50. Please help.
I'm stuck trying to decide whether to select the MP50 or MX160.

I have a "do all" system which is my 2 channel music and home cinema. I take both seriously.

Admittedly, I have grown a little frustrated with McIntosh - and was leaning towards the Lyngdord MP50 until Lyngdorf sent me this message:


"The MP-50 handles all BluRay formats available today + allows for HDR and Dolby Vision

If you want to connect a PlayStation 4 or similar console, the maximum video output is with a higher frame rate than the MP-50 can handle in its present configuration."

I'm not as technical as many audiophile - and I asked Lyngdorf to explain exactly what that means to me (no answers). Does it mean that my PS4 Pro still connects through the MP50 and delivers 4K but at slightly lower resolutions?? Could someone explain? Does the MX160 have the same constraint?

I also went a Processor that integrates seamlessly and decodes the best audio and video formats currently available (Dolby Atmos, Dolby Vision, HDR10 et cetera).

I demoed the MX160 in my home a couple of years ago and at that point it did not work well with my components and ultimately the local dealer and McIntosh (after going back and forth) removed the unit as it really didn't give me much more than my MX151 was giving me. Chuck Hinton has indicated the software upgrades have resolves the issues. And he also said there is no MX170 coming any time soon.

The fact that the MP50 is all digital with no analog is not a concern for me. It also would not bother for my processor to not match amps (I don't foresee any issues with this other than cosmetics).

I'm hoping someone can explain the specific Pros and Cons of both units.

My System:

McIntosh MX151
McIntosh MC303 (center and surround speakers)
McIntosh MC452 (front speakers)
Directv C61K-700
Oppo 203
PS4 Pro
Wadia 171i (2 channel music)
B&W HTM1 D3 Center Speaker
B&W 802 D3 Fronts
B&W 804 D3 Rear Surrounds
Two SVS SB16 Ulra Subwoofers
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*ADDING THIS UNDER MX160 OWNER'S THREAD*

Replacing McIntosh MX151. Deciding between MX160 and Lyngdorf MP50. Please help.
I'm stuck trying to decide whether to select the MP50 or MX160.

I have a "do all" system which is my 2 channel music and home cinema. I take both seriously.

Admittedly, I have grown a little frustrated with McIntosh - and was leaning towards the Lyngdord MP50 until Lyngdorf sent me this message:


"The MP-50 handles all BluRay formats available today + allows for HDR and Dolby Vision

If you want to connect a PlayStation 4 or similar console, the maximum video output is with a higher frame rate than the MP-50 can handle in its present configuration."

I'm not as technical as many audiophile - and I asked Lyngdorf to explain exactly what that means to me (no answers). Does it mean that my PS4 Pro still connects through the MP50 and delivers 4K but at slightly lower resolutions?? Could someone explain? Does the MX160 have the same constraint?

I also went a Processor that integrates seamlessly and decodes the best audio and video formats currently available (Dolby Atmos, Dolby Vision, HDR10 et cetera).

I demoed the MX160 in my home a couple of years ago and at that point it did not work well with my components and ultimately the local dealer and McIntosh (after going back and forth) removed the unit as it really didn't give me much more than my MX151 was giving me. Chuck Hinton has indicated the software upgrades have resolves the issues. And he also said there is no MX170 coming any time soon.

The fact that the MP50 is all digital with no analog is not a concern for me. It also would not bother for my processor to not match amps (I don't foresee any issues with this other than cosmetics).

I'm hoping someone can explain the specific Pros and Cons of both units.

My System:

McIntosh MX151
McIntosh MC303 (center and surround speakers)
McIntosh MC452 (front speakers)
Directv C61K-700
Oppo 203
PS4 Pro
Wadia 171i (2 channel music)
B&W HTM1 D3 Center Speaker
B&W 802 D3 Fronts
B&W 804 D3 Rear Surrounds
Two SVS SB16 Ulra Subwoofers
My opinion is although the MX160 sounds fantastic, at this point, I personally would not purchase any audio/video processor that didn't handle 18GB HDMI out of the box. The MP50 is suppose to be updated at some point (at least they have announced it). That is what they are referring to as the current model is only 9GB HDMI capable. Although 9GB HDMI can handle most 4K signals, it can't handle the highest end which the PS4 Pro and other source components can output. I would think the MX160 could also be upgraded in the future, but unlike the MP50, there has been no official announcement. SJ
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*ADDING THIS UNDER MX160 OWNER'S THREAD*

Replacing McIntosh MX151. Deciding between MX160 and Lyngdorf MP50. Please help.
I'm stuck trying to decide whether to select the MP50 or MX160.

I have a "do all" system which is my 2 channel music and home cinema. I take both seriously.

Admittedly, I have grown a little frustrated with McIntosh - and was leaning towards the Lyngdord MP50 until Lyngdorf sent me this message:


"The MP-50 handles all BluRay formats available today + allows for HDR and Dolby Vision

If you want to connect a PlayStation 4 or similar console, the maximum video output is with a higher frame rate than the MP-50 can handle in its present configuration."

I'm not as technical as many audiophile - and I asked Lyngdorf to explain exactly what that means to me (no answers). Does it mean that my PS4 Pro still connects through the MP50 and delivers 4K but at slightly lower resolutions?? Could someone explain? Does the MX160 have the same constraint?

I also went a Processor that integrates seamlessly and decodes the best audio and video formats currently available (Dolby Atmos, Dolby Vision, HDR10 et cetera).

I demoed the MX160 in my home a couple of years ago and at that point it did not work well with my components and ultimately the local dealer and McIntosh (after going back and forth) removed the unit as it really didn't give me much more than my MX151 was giving me. Chuck Hinton has indicated the software upgrades have resolves the issues. And he also said there is no MX170 coming any time soon.

The fact that the MP50 is all digital with no analog is not a concern for me. It also would not bother for my processor to not match amps (I don't foresee any issues with this other than cosmetics).

I'm hoping someone can explain the specific Pros and Cons of both units.

My System:

McIntosh MX151
McIntosh MC303 (center and surround speakers)
McIntosh MC452 (front speakers)
Directv C61K-700
Oppo 203
PS4 Pro
Wadia 171i (2 channel music)
B&W HTM1 D3 Center Speaker
B&W 802 D3 Fronts
B&W 804 D3 Rear Surrounds
Two SVS SB16 Ulra Subwoofers
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My opinion is although the MX160 sounds fantastic, at this point, I personally would not purchase any audio/video processor that didn't handle 18GB HDMI out of the box. The MP50 is suppose to be updated at some point (at least they have announced it). That is what they are referring to as the current model is only 9GB HDMI capable. Although 9GB HDMI can handle most 4K signals, it can't handle the highest end which the PS4 Pro and other source components can output. I would think the MX160 could also be upgraded in the future, but unlike the MP50, there has been no official announcement. SJ



I would have to add a slightly different perspective since adding the Lumagen Radiance into my system some months back to hand all things video processor wise. My usage of it has moved me well beyond basic source switching or passthrough capabilities to specific scaling (3840 to 4096), custom tonemapping, and on the fly aspect ratio adjustment to suit the use of a Panamorph DCR lens. So in my specific example, even a current fully specced or even next gen HDMI equipped AVP wouldn't have its video section utilised. Meanwhile the MX-160 is still doing a stellar job in all things audio and never skips a beat
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Have to agree as I also have a Lumagen Pro and have never used my MX160 for anything but audio. I had the Lumagen Pro even before purchasing my MX160 and knew I would not use it for video. However, feel many folks want only one unit. If that’s the case, then look for something that handles 18GB HDMI.... Our theater has the Lumagen Pro and MX160 (Sony laser projector), but our family room zone is getting a new Marantz 8805 setup. It handles HDMI just fine. Obviously it will be no comparison in audio/video, but wanted something less complex. SJ
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Have to agree as I also have a Lumagen Pro and have never used my MX160 for anything but audio. I had the Lumagen Pro even before purchasing my MX160 and knew I would not use it for video. However, feel many folks want only one unit. If that’s the case, then look for something that handles 18GB HDMI.... Our theater has the Lumagen Pro and MX160 (Sony laser projector), but our family room zone is getting a new Marantz 8805 setup. It handles HDMI just fine. Obviously it will be no comparison in audio/video, but wanted something less complex. SJ

Yeah I feel a dedicated cinema kind of deserves separate video source control/processing. However, I know some people are of course using AVP's like the MX160 or MP50 in slightly 'overspecced' environments leading to this video requirement. Also, similarly to you (in an even more simplistic approach) in my large living room I'm running a Creative Sonic Carrier sound bar and it can handle any source I want even though I'm only using HDMI ARC from my Sony ZD9. Also, if I compared to say my weekender with a living area HT, I'm running an Anthem MRX1120, in a 7.1.2 layout, which can also handle the switching and passthrough but I'd never overspec it with an MX160 even though it will likely run a next gen JVC shortly.

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Yeah I feel a dedicated cinema kind of deserves separate video source control/processing. However, I know some people are of course using AVP's like the MX160 or MP50 in slightly 'overspecced' environments leading to this video requirement. Also, similarly to you (in an even more simplistic approach) in my large living room I'm running a Creative Sonic Carrier sound bar and it can handle any source I want even though I'm only using HDMI ARC from my Sony ZD9. Also, if I compared to say my weekender with a living area HT, I'm running an Anthem MRX1120, in a 7.1.2 layout, which can also handle the switching and passthrough but I'd never overspec it with an MX160 even though it will likely run a next gen JVC shortly.
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Guys I just tried to save a new setting on the 160 app but its jambed and the updater top rights just going round and round... I have restarted the 160 but still the app is greyed out and not updating.
What do i do?

Also if your wanting to play all video up to 4K to you set the video section to ONE or ALL?

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Guys I just tried to save a new setting on the 160 app but its jambed and the updater top rights just going round and round... I have restarted the 160 but still the app is greyed out and not updating.
What do i do?

Also if your wanting to play all video up to 4K to you set the video section to ONE or ALL?



Not sure what to advise regarding the 160 web interface, that sounds quite odd especially after a restart.


All I can say with the 160 and 4K sources, particularly HDR, it can be pot luck with the limited bandwidth chipset. I had mine continually trip up my PS4 Pro and UB900 to the point I gave up trying to passthrough and the convenience of that brings until I got my Lumagen, now every source is seamless once again, along with all the other benefits for video processing and using with my DCR lens.
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Not sure what to advise regarding the 160 web interface, that sounds quite odd especially after a restart.


All I can say with the 160 and 4K sources, particularly HDR, it can be pot luck with the limited bandwidth chipset. I had mine continually trip up my PS4 Pro and UB900 to the point I gave up trying to passthrough and the convenience of that brings until I got my Lumagen, now every source is seamless once again, along with all the other benefits for video processing and using with my DCR lens.
Interesting... considering I never had any issues passing 4k on my UB900 through my 160.
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