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Flagship AVR vs Datasat or Trinnov Pre/Pro - can you hear the difference?
Now that I have a flagship AVR - Denon 7200WA - of course I am wondering what the difference is at the "next level." Can someone help me understand? Let's assume all else is equal in two scenarios where the only difference in a system is the AVR vs the Pre/Pro. So, assume both rooms:
1 - Have a competent professional acoustician to place speakers, acoustic treatments and calibrate the hardware.
2 - Have equal quality speakers and amplifiers, appropriate to the room.
3 - Assume in the system which uses an AVR it is using pre-outs feeding to the same amplifiers which would be used by the Datasat or Trinnov system.
4 - Take Trinnov's 3D speaker remapping capabilities out of the equation for the sake of discussion so it's a more even comparison between the sound quality and capabilities of Datasat, Trinnov and a flagship AVR running Audyssey XT32 or Dirac Live (either built in or perhaps through a MiniDSP).
6 - The technician doing the final calibration has access to Audyssey Pro Kit if using the AVR to be able to customize parameters as much as possible.
7 - Assume we run the same number of channels on the Datasat or Altitude which the AVR is capable of running - no more.
8 - Finally, assume the room is the same, and has reasonable dimensions. Perhaps it's not the *ideal* room but it isn't a square - it's a sealed off rectangular room with a flat ceiling and reasonable dimension. And limit its size to one which doesn't need a huge array of side, overhead and rear speakers to evenly disperse sound to the audience - thus its not a room with a burning need to process more channels of audio than a typical flagship AVR can handle.
What at this point would the difference in sound be, between the two systems which vary in hardware only in the capabilities of the pre/pro and its price point - ie $3,000 for a flagship AVR doing the audio processing vs $20-$30K for the Datasat or Trinnov Altitude?
I'm asking not to justify what I own - but because I'm wondering what benefit I could get at the next level if I were to choose to spend the money.
In the world of video the differences between projectors seem much more quantifiable - lumens, lens quality, ANSI and on-off contrast ratios, color accuracy, motion resolution, still resolution etc etc.
But in the world of audio processing the adjectives used to describe differences between systems seem - how do I put this - more subjective, perhaps?
"Don't forget that a significant contribution made by the use of high-end cabling is emotional. Knowing that you have the best available causes the listening and viewing to be that much more enjoyable. Observable improvements make it even better."
-From a post on the audio video improvements forum
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