The Official 5000ES 4K Laser Sony Owner's Thread - Page 108 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Forum Jump: 
 1444Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #3211 of 3253 Old 03-14-2020, 03:57 PM
AVS Forum Club Gold
 
D6500Ken's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Indianapolis, IN
Posts: 775
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 89 Post(s)
Liked: 147
Replaced a client’s 1080p Runco DLP with a Sony VPL-VW5000ES today.


Ken Whitcomb
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	7BDF7EF7-E8AC-4211-BBCE-2FDE9A21AAE5_1584226598208.jpg
Views:	142
Size:	83.3 KB
ID:	2697868  

Calibrations Inc
Indianapolis, IN

ISF, THX, PVA
Now offering LightSpace CMS 3D LUT calibration
D6500Ken is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #3212 of 3253 Old 03-15-2020, 06:40 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Art Sonneborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Battle Creek,MI USA
Posts: 24,448
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1436 Post(s)
Liked: 2028
Watched Midway last night 4K UHD what an Atmos feast along with some pretty incredible bass, visuals were stylized yet gorgeous. Going from a night landing scene to daylight etc very impressive HDR. Personally, I thought that this was a very good film.

I was just so impressed with how great the blacks looked. I do think that the Sony update has made a nice meaningful difference there.

Art
Art Sonneborn is online now  
post #3213 of 3253 Old 03-23-2020, 09:12 PM
Advanced Member
 
LydMekk's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Spain
Posts: 635
Mentioned: 13 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 227 Post(s)
Liked: 250
IMO, Midway was the better war movie from 2019, not 1917.
Agree with you, eye and earpopping perfection. Long time since I've hear such a good mixed surround from a movie.

"If everything is under control you are just not driving fast enough"

Home Theatre Heaven in Spain - V2.0 - Build thread
LydMekk is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #3214 of 3253 Old 03-23-2020, 10:02 PM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
millerwill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Berkeley, CA
Posts: 12,092
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 621 Post(s)
Liked: 389
IMO, the 1976 'Midway' was much more accurate militarily (even though it threw in some extra issues, which perhaps interesting, were not relevant to the combat).
millerwill is offline  
post #3215 of 3253 Old 03-24-2020, 01:47 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Art Sonneborn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Battle Creek,MI USA
Posts: 24,448
Mentioned: 20 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1436 Post(s)
Liked: 2028
Quote:
Originally Posted by millerwill View Post
IMO, the 1976 'Midway' was much more accurate militarily (even though it threw in some extra issues, which perhaps interesting, were not relevant to the combat).
Probably so but the new iteration has some very very high entertainment value especially if one has a good size screen and Atmos gear. The overall experience is very nice along with knowing how much of this actually happened. For me I just can't get into fantasy so this is my cup of tea.

Art
Jive Turkey and Archibald1 like this.
Art Sonneborn is online now  
post #3216 of 3253 Old 03-24-2020, 04:58 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
roxiedog13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North 48 °
Posts: 4,019
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2849 Post(s)
Liked: 1510
cooling requirements for VW5000 in a box

I will be building a projector enclosure for my VW5000 within the next week or so, trying to get a handle on the CFM requirements necessary for incoming and outgoing air . I doubt I will need AC as I live in a Northern Climate where average summer temperatures do not exceed 85 degrees more than a few weeks . The room does not have any windows , is located over a cold garage and the decoupled room construction keeps the room temperatures quite average, even on a hot day, that is already known .


So the only concern is removing heat that is produced , replacing with cool fresh air. I'm going to use 6" acoustic duct to both feed and exhaust air, just trying to come up with an appropriate amount of CFM to ensure adequate flow for the projector, AV rack and
heat produced by individuals. I will definitely use a larger than necessary inline fan assembly with variable speed controller which I will control with a remote mounted thermostat inside the projector box. If I ever need AC I can add this down the road, I highly doubt it will ever be required.


Appreciate any feedback, thank you in advance.


Robert
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	thumbnail_077 roxiedog13 - 11.jpg
Views:	76
Size:	107.7 KB
ID:	2701218   Click image for larger version

Name:	thumbnail_56 56c.png
Views:	79
Size:	1.00 MB
ID:	2701220  

Dedicated Theater: Sony VPL VW5000 , Panamorph DCR & ISCO III L Anamorphic Lens, Draper TecVision XT1800X Screen, 2.40:1 134" diagonal curved , Denon AVR-X8500 , 9.2.6 Atmos, Panasonic UB900, Oppo 203, Lumagen Pro 4440 , (3) Paradigm CI Elite E7-L+C+R fronts, , (2) CI Pro P80-IW Rear, (2) Paradigm SA-ADP In-wall Surround, (6) SIG-1.5R-30 v.3 In-Ceiling, Subwoofers: (2) SVS SB-16 Ultra , (1) SVS PC13-Ultra .
roxiedog13 is online now  
post #3217 of 3253 Old 03-24-2020, 05:24 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Germany
Posts: 153
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 115 Post(s)
Liked: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by roxiedog13 View Post
I will be building a projector enclosure for my VW5000 within the next week or so, trying to get a handle on the CFM requirements necessary for incoming and outgoing air . I doubt I will need AC as I live in a Northern Climate where average summer temperatures do not exceed 85 degrees more than a few weeks . The room does not have any windows , is located over a cold garage and the decoupled room construction keeps the room temperatures quite average, even on a hot day, that is already known .


So the only concern is removing heat that is produced , replacing with cool fresh air. I'm going to use 6" acoustic duct to both feed and exhaust air, just trying to come up with an appropriate amount of CFM to ensure adequate flow for the projector, AV rack and
heat produced by individuals. I will definitely use a larger than necessary inline fan assembly with variable speed controller which I will control with a remote mounted thermostat inside the projector box. If I ever need AC I can add this down the road, I highly doubt it will ever be required.


Appreciate any feedback, thank you in advance.


Robert
Interesting. I´m awaiting my 5000ES within the next week and i´m also planning a hushbox for it.
I´ve got a ventilation system installed for just the cinema room and i´m hoping that i can just connect the husbox to it.
I´m planning to do a first try with just using the air from the room for cooling (it´s in the basement and never exceeds 20°C) and just suck the heat from the back of the 5000ES using the ventilation system.

This is how it looks like right now:
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0936.JPG
Views:	80
Size:	820.5 KB
ID:	2701224  
hockyAVS is online now  
post #3218 of 3253 Old 03-24-2020, 08:05 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
SJHT's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: SF Bay Area
Posts: 3,812
Mentioned: 15 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1291 Post(s)
Liked: 903
Not sure this helps, but for my Sony 995 I have a simple bathroom/quiet fan built into the wall behind the 995. Since the 995 exhausts hot air out the back, the fan just simply pulls that hot air into an adjoining hallway (which opens up into the larger entry of our house). This completely solved any projector heat related issues in our theater. The fan control is integrated into our control system and turns on/off (+ speed control) as needed. SJ
Archibald1 likes this.
SJHT is online now  
post #3219 of 3253 Old 03-24-2020, 09:20 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
roxiedog13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North 48 °
Posts: 4,019
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2849 Post(s)
Liked: 1510
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockyAVS View Post
Interesting. I´m awaiting my 5000ES within the next week and i´m also planning a hushbox for it.
I´ve got a ventilation system installed for just the cinema room and i´m hoping that i can just connect the husbox to it.
I´m planning to do a first try with just using the air from the room for cooling (it´s in the basement and never exceeds 20°C) and just suck the heat from the back of the 5000ES using the ventilation system.

This is how it looks like right now:

Never thought of the enclosure as a hush box to be honest, but now that you mentioned this, I may use some acoustic board to attenuate the sound . Unless the front is closed, which I did not intend to do fully, then sound will obviously leak from the
front. To be a true hush box a full enclosure with port glass would be necessary . With my projector mounted 25 feet back and running mid to low laser 95% of the time I don't anticipate noise being a concern .

Dedicated Theater: Sony VPL VW5000 , Panamorph DCR & ISCO III L Anamorphic Lens, Draper TecVision XT1800X Screen, 2.40:1 134" diagonal curved , Denon AVR-X8500 , 9.2.6 Atmos, Panasonic UB900, Oppo 203, Lumagen Pro 4440 , (3) Paradigm CI Elite E7-L+C+R fronts, , (2) CI Pro P80-IW Rear, (2) Paradigm SA-ADP In-wall Surround, (6) SIG-1.5R-30 v.3 In-Ceiling, Subwoofers: (2) SVS SB-16 Ultra , (1) SVS PC13-Ultra .
roxiedog13 is online now  
post #3220 of 3253 Old 03-24-2020, 09:41 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
roxiedog13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North 48 °
Posts: 4,019
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2849 Post(s)
Liked: 1510
Quote:
Originally Posted by SJHT View Post
Not sure this helps, but for my Sony 995 I have a simple bathroom/quiet fan built into the wall behind the 995. Since the 995 exhausts hot air out the back, the fan just simply pulls that hot air into an adjoining hallway (which opens up into the larger entry of our house). This completely solved any projector heat related issues in our theater. The fan control is integrated into our control system and turns on/off (+ speed control) as needed. SJ

Everything helps, thanks for the feedback . A bathroom fan typically does around 50-100CFM , the Sony VW995 is rated 2200 lumens . The VW5000 at 5000 lumens is 2.27 times the 995, so a rough estimate would suggest 227 a cfm requirement based on 100cfm for the 995. The in-line axial fan I intend to use is 600 CFM , it will be variable speed using a VFD therefor I can adjust the exhaust volume to temperature with a thermister . I can upgrade later as necessary, but I do believe this will suffice . Will know
soon enough.

Dedicated Theater: Sony VPL VW5000 , Panamorph DCR & ISCO III L Anamorphic Lens, Draper TecVision XT1800X Screen, 2.40:1 134" diagonal curved , Denon AVR-X8500 , 9.2.6 Atmos, Panasonic UB900, Oppo 203, Lumagen Pro 4440 , (3) Paradigm CI Elite E7-L+C+R fronts, , (2) CI Pro P80-IW Rear, (2) Paradigm SA-ADP In-wall Surround, (6) SIG-1.5R-30 v.3 In-Ceiling, Subwoofers: (2) SVS SB-16 Ultra , (1) SVS PC13-Ultra .
roxiedog13 is online now  
post #3221 of 3253 Old 03-24-2020, 09:41 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Germany
Posts: 153
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 115 Post(s)
Liked: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by roxiedog13 View Post
Never thought of the enclosure as a hush box to be honest, but now that you mentioned this, I may use some acoustic board to attenuate the sound . Unless the front is closed, which I did not intend to do fully, then sound will obviously leak from the
front. To be a true hush box a full enclosure with port glass would be necessary . With my projector mounted 25 feet back and running mid to low laser 95% of the time I don't anticipate noise being a concern .
Ah OK - i was thinking that sound cancellation would be the primary aim when building a housing for a projector.
You can get very good results using a box with a closed front, but the lens pointing out of the box through a hole in the front surrounded by absorbing foam. This should work very well with the 5000 since its lens is standing out of the front of the projector.
I´ve got a piece of port glass here already that i wanted to use, but i´ll try it without at first since i think the glass might have a negative affect on image quality.
hockyAVS is online now  
post #3222 of 3253 Old 03-24-2020, 09:45 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Germany
Posts: 153
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 115 Post(s)
Liked: 87
According to the specs, the 5000ES has heat dissipation of 4092 BTU/h.
hockyAVS is online now  
post #3223 of 3253 Old 03-24-2020, 09:55 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
roxiedog13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North 48 °
Posts: 4,019
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2849 Post(s)
Liked: 1510
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockyAVS View Post
Ah OK - i was thinking that sound cancellation would be the primary aim when building a housing for a projector.
You can get very good results using a box with a closed front, but the lens pointing out of the box through a hole in the front surrounded by absorbing foam. This should work very well with the 5000 since its lens is standing out of the front of the projector.
I´ve got a piece of port glass here already that i wanted to use, but i´ll try it without at first since i think the glass might have a negative affect on image quality.

I intended to put the projector on a shelf , when I did the render realized the height was over the available lens shift . With no way to use a ceiling mount I decided to build a box below the shelf, enclosing really only for aesthetics . I'm hiding all the speakers

figured I would do the same for all the equipment, including the projector . I'll likely just use black acoustic felt on the sides which will provide some acoustical properties , but can be removed easily to access the projector. Cooling fresh air return will go to the top front of this box , so I guess it would be easy to close it in and use port glass as necessary . I'm of the same opinion on port glass, you have to wonder what negative effects can occur . I'll try without a port glass first , if the sound is acceptable, I'll leave well enough alone.


Just found this chart, converts btu/hr to cfm requirements based on temperature differential.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	air-heating-temperature-btu-diagram.png
Views:	31
Size:	39.2 KB
ID:	2701324  

Dedicated Theater: Sony VPL VW5000 , Panamorph DCR & ISCO III L Anamorphic Lens, Draper TecVision XT1800X Screen, 2.40:1 134" diagonal curved , Denon AVR-X8500 , 9.2.6 Atmos, Panasonic UB900, Oppo 203, Lumagen Pro 4440 , (3) Paradigm CI Elite E7-L+C+R fronts, , (2) CI Pro P80-IW Rear, (2) Paradigm SA-ADP In-wall Surround, (6) SIG-1.5R-30 v.3 In-Ceiling, Subwoofers: (2) SVS SB-16 Ultra , (1) SVS PC13-Ultra .

Last edited by roxiedog13; 03-24-2020 at 10:17 AM.
roxiedog13 is online now  
post #3224 of 3253 Old 03-24-2020, 12:01 PM
Advanced Member
 
dormie1360's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 680
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 148 Post(s)
Liked: 118
Quote:
Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn View Post
Probably so but the new iteration has some very very high entertainment value especially if one has a good size screen and Atmos gear. The overall experience is very nice along with knowing how much of this actually happened. For me I just can't get into fantasy so this is my cup of tea.

Art

I agree, I would just add most things Hollywood does involving flying should be accepted as entertainment first, accuracy/realism second.

Regards, John
Video: Digital Projection 330 HighLite HC, Stewart 1.3 2.35 159 in, Radiance Pro, Anamorphic Lens
Audio: Trinnov Altitude16, QSC iCore250, QSC DCA 1622 Amps
Speakers: Procella P8's, P6V's, P18, Triad Silvers Atmos 11.3.4
dormie1360 is online now  
post #3225 of 3253 Old 03-25-2020, 06:34 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
audioguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Not far from Atlanta - but far enough!
Posts: 10,293
Mentioned: 121 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5518 Post(s)
Liked: 4620
Quote:
Originally Posted by roxiedog13 View Post
I will be building a projector enclosure for my VW5000 within the next week or so, trying to get a handle on the CFM requirements necessary for incoming and outgoing air . I doubt I will need AC as I live in a Northern Climate where average summer temperatures do not exceed 85 degrees more than a few weeks . The room does not have any windows , is located over a cold garage and the decoupled room construction keeps the room temperatures quite average, even on a hot day, that is already known .


So the only concern is removing heat that is produced , replacing with cool fresh air. I'm going to use 6" acoustic duct to both feed and exhaust air, just trying to come up with an appropriate amount of CFM to ensure adequate flow for the projector, AV rack and
heat produced by individuals. I will definitely use a larger than necessary inline fan assembly with variable speed controller which I will control with a remote mounted thermostat inside the projector box. If I ever need AC I can add this down the road, I highly doubt it will ever be required.


Appreciate any feedback, thank you in advance.


Robert

I have a different PJ (RS4500) but am planning on a hush box as well. I am planning on using an in-line fan for pulling out the heat and will dump the heat into the space above an adjoining room. I will be taking air in from my equipment room which has a miniSplit AC unit in it. What I don't know how to do is to have some kind of temperature sensor in the box which can shut the PJ off if either the internal PJ fans were to fail or the in external fan were to fail. Any ideas.
audioguy is offline  
post #3226 of 3253 Old 03-25-2020, 07:04 AM
Advanced Member
 
mitchlampert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 589
Mentioned: 2 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 137 Post(s)
Liked: 50
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This works perfectly for me, although I don't have a hush box but still found the pj overheating without proper ventilation
tigerhonaker and roxiedog13 like this.
mitchlampert is offline  
post #3227 of 3253 Old 03-26-2020, 04:37 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
roxiedog13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: North 48 °
Posts: 4,019
Mentioned: 32 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2849 Post(s)
Liked: 1510
Quote:
Originally Posted by audioguy View Post
I have a different PJ (RS4500) but am planning on a hush box as well. I am planning on using an in-line fan for pulling out the heat and will dump the heat into the space above an adjoining room. I will be taking air in from my equipment room which has a miniSplit AC unit in it. What I don't know how to do is to have some kind of temperature sensor in the box which can shut the PJ off if either the internal PJ fans were to fail or the in external fan were to fail. Any ideas.

Should be easy enough to turn on your exhaust fan unit with a temperature sensor, would just need a properly rated thermal switch coupled with a relay . I'm hoping to do a variable speed version using a RTD and VFD but haven't really looked into this just yet . Within the next week or two I'll likely have a closer look at some kind of solution, will share what I design, see if it will work for you . I may just go with a on off thermal switch coupled with manual speed control, once set I'd expect this would work fine as well.



I'm actually doing something very close to what your are doing less the minisplit, I'll be pulling cooler fresh air from my crawl space which ranges between 48-55 degrees depending on the time of year, exhaust air will go back into my home during colder months, into the crawl space during the summer. .
Craig Peer and Archibald1 like this.

Dedicated Theater: Sony VPL VW5000 , Panamorph DCR & ISCO III L Anamorphic Lens, Draper TecVision XT1800X Screen, 2.40:1 134" diagonal curved , Denon AVR-X8500 , 9.2.6 Atmos, Panasonic UB900, Oppo 203, Lumagen Pro 4440 , (3) Paradigm CI Elite E7-L+C+R fronts, , (2) CI Pro P80-IW Rear, (2) Paradigm SA-ADP In-wall Surround, (6) SIG-1.5R-30 v.3 In-Ceiling, Subwoofers: (2) SVS SB-16 Ultra , (1) SVS PC13-Ultra .
roxiedog13 is online now  
post #3228 of 3253 Old 03-27-2020, 10:32 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Craig Peer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 17,613
Mentioned: 144 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7799 Post(s)
Liked: 9873
Quote:
Originally Posted by mitchlampert View Post
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This works perfectly for me, although I don't have a hush box but still found the pj overheating without proper ventilation
They make great products.
Craig Peer is online now  
post #3229 of 3253 Old 03-27-2020, 10:43 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
Craig Peer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sacramento, CA
Posts: 17,613
Mentioned: 144 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7799 Post(s)
Liked: 9873
Quote:
Originally Posted by audioguy View Post
I have a different PJ (RS4500) but am planning on a hush box as well. I am planning on using an in-line fan for pulling out the heat and will dump the heat into the space above an adjoining room. I will be taking air in from my equipment room which has a miniSplit AC unit in it. What I don't know how to do is to have some kind of temperature sensor in the box which can shut the PJ off if either the internal PJ fans were to fail or the in external fan were to fail. Any ideas.
If the internal projector fans fail I have no doubt there is a sensor inside the RS4500 that will shut it down for you.
Archibald1 likes this.
Craig Peer is online now  
post #3230 of 3253 Old 03-27-2020, 11:24 AM
AVS Forum Club Gold
 
Ash Sharma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: TX
Posts: 2,265
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1163 Post(s)
Liked: 841
Quote:
Originally Posted by audioguy View Post
I have a different PJ (RS4500) but am planning on a hush box as well. I am planning on using an in-line fan for pulling out the heat and will dump the heat into the space above an adjoining room. I will be taking air in from my equipment room which has a miniSplit AC unit in it. What I don't know how to do is to have some kind of temperature sensor in the box which can shut the PJ off if either the internal PJ fans were to fail or the in external fan were to fail. Any ideas.
My 5000VW shut down early in its life on a Texas 105 degree summer day - the exhaust fan inside my Hush Box was not pulling enough air - I ended up increasing the size of the exhaust system and that solved the problem. I can check the incoming air temperature in the menu system of the projector - and the projector runs at decent temperature even on a 115 F weather day.
I also bought a bluetooth temperature sensor which I placed on top of the projector and set a range of temperature and it sends a warm to my iPhone/iwatch/ipad remote - if the range gets out.
My original projector did loose uniformity in a very bad way as the laser block went bad - i realized when i went for a calibration after installing the Lumagen Pro.
Sony was nice enough to change my projector BUT I am wondering if my Laser Block went bad due to the episode of projector heating up too much until one day the heat was too much and the shut down occur.
Moral of the story - not a good thing for the projector to shut down due to overheating.
Ash Sharma is online now  
post #3231 of 3253 Old 03-27-2020, 01:38 PM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Archibald1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 4,095
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2482 Post(s)
Liked: 1374
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash Sharma View Post
My 5000VW shut down early in its life on a Texas 105 degree summer day - the exhaust fan inside my Hush Box was not pulling enough air - I ended up increasing the size of the exhaust system and that solved the problem. I can check the incoming air temperature in the menu system of the projector - and the projector runs at decent temperature even on a 115 F weather day.
I also bought a bluetooth temperature sensor which I placed on top of the projector and set a range of temperature and it sends a warm to my iPhone/iwatch/ipad remote - if the range gets out.
My original projector did loose uniformity in a very bad way as the laser block went bad - i realized when i went for a calibration after installing the Lumagen Pro.
Sony was nice enough to change my projector BUT I am wondering if my Laser Block went bad due to the episode of projector heating up too much until one day the heat was too much and the shut down occur.
Moral of the story - not a good thing for the projector to shut down due to overheating.
Sounds wholly plausible to me. The 5000 must chuck out the BTU's.

“Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is always something you can do and succeed at. It matters that you don’t just give up."
Stephen Hawking.
Archibald1 is offline  
post #3232 of 3253 Old 03-28-2020, 01:19 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Germany
Posts: 153
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 115 Post(s)
Liked: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash Sharma View Post
Sony was nice enough to change my projector BUT I am wondering if my Laser Block went bad due to the episode of projector heating up too much until one day the heat was too much and the shut down occur.
Moral of the story - not a good thing for the projector to shut down due to overheating.
Mh, i´d say that shouldn´t be the case. The shutdown is meant to protect the projector from overheating and thus damage.
If your laser block got hurt, the emergency shut down didn´t do a good job.

I´ll place temperature sensor easpecially where the heated air leaves the box - this way you can really check how hot it is inside the projector.
hockyAVS is online now  
post #3233 of 3253 Old 03-28-2020, 03:28 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
audioguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Not far from Atlanta - but far enough!
Posts: 10,293
Mentioned: 121 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5518 Post(s)
Liked: 4620
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockyAVS View Post
I´ll place temperature sensor especially where the heated air leaves the box - this way you can really check how hot it is inside the projector.

But how hot is too hot? Does Sony provide that number?
audioguy is offline  
post #3234 of 3253 Old 03-28-2020, 03:37 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Germany
Posts: 153
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 115 Post(s)
Liked: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by audioguy View Post
But how hot is too hot? Does Sony provide that number?
Well, in the specs it says 5°-40° C (41 - 104 F) operating temperature - but that´s the surrounding temperature, not the temperature inside the projector.

At first i´d do some test runs and check the temperature that is coming out of the projector. If that is around the max. limit, i think it should be fine. But that´s pure theory.
I´m really courious to find out when my 5000 gets delivered.
hockyAVS is online now  
post #3235 of 3253 Old 03-28-2020, 04:47 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Archibald1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 4,095
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2482 Post(s)
Liked: 1374
Hasn't it been reported that the 5000 is running cooler since the latest firmware anyway?

“Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is always something you can do and succeed at. It matters that you don’t just give up."
Stephen Hawking.
Archibald1 is offline  
post #3236 of 3253 Old 03-28-2020, 05:43 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Germany
Posts: 153
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 115 Post(s)
Liked: 87
Quote:
Originally Posted by Archibald1 View Post
Hasn't it been reported that the 5000 is running cooler since the latest firmware anyway?
That´s what i read as well.
But i think it´s still a lot of heat that needs to be carried away. But as far as i´ve heard, the 5000 runs much cooler than e.g. the JCV Z1.
hockyAVS is online now  
post #3237 of 3253 Old 03-28-2020, 05:50 AM
AVS Forum Addicted Member
 
thebland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Detroit, Michigan USA
Posts: 26,687
Mentioned: 43 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2516 Post(s)
Liked: 1744
Ash! I'm using the Temp sensor you gave me. It sits atop of the Sony near the exhaust vent. When the PJ is on for an extended period of time, it reads 83 degrees. I keep my equipment room at 77.

I think I need the gateway to get remote messages though but in the house, I get pop ups if left on! Thanks!!

Goodbye to a great audio and video genius and writer... JOHN GANNON. I enjoyed your friendship, wit and a nice long run we took around Indianapolis at CEDIA years back... and for buying my Runco 980 Ultra years back... you saved my ass! Rest in peace.
thebland is online now  
post #3238 of 3253 Old 03-28-2020, 06:25 AM
AVS Forum Club Gold
 
Ash Sharma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: TX
Posts: 2,265
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1163 Post(s)
Liked: 841
Quote:
Originally Posted by thebland View Post
Ash! I'm using the Temp sensor you gave me. It sits atop of the Sony near the exhaust vent. When the PJ is on for an extended period of time, it reads 83 degrees. I keep my equipment room at 77.

I think I need the gateway to get remote messages though but in the house, I get pop ups if left on! Thanks!!
You are welcome - we love our gadgets...
Ash Sharma is online now  
post #3239 of 3253 Old 03-28-2020, 06:25 AM
AVS Forum Special Member
 
Archibald1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 4,095
Mentioned: 30 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2482 Post(s)
Liked: 1374
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockyAVS View Post
That´s what i read as well.
But i think it´s still a lot of heat that needs to be carried away. But as far as i´ve heard, the 5000 runs much cooler than e.g. the JCV Z1.
For sure.
The 5000 has 20x 2.9w diodes and 80x 4w diodes. That equals 378w of laser power.
Compare that to the 870 with 24x 4.35w diodes (104.4w) and the 760 with 24x 3.75w diodes (90w) and you can see that there is a load more heat generated in the 5000 hence it's fancy cooling system.
hockyAVS likes this.

“Remember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there is always something you can do and succeed at. It matters that you don’t just give up."
Stephen Hawking.
Archibald1 is offline  
post #3240 of 3253 Old 03-28-2020, 07:18 AM
AVS Forum Club Gold
 
Ash Sharma's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: TX
Posts: 2,265
Mentioned: 6 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1163 Post(s)
Liked: 841
Quote:
Originally Posted by hockyAVS View Post

I´ll place temperature sensor easpecially where the heated air leaves the box - this way you can really check how hot it is inside the projector.
My An*l attention to Projector temperature goes like this.
I use the Cool System Exhaust System which has a probe with a digital readout.
The probe I have placed at the rear exhaust of the projector.
The temperature sensor Bluetooth sits on top of the projector near the front air intake - gives me a Sense of how the incoming temperature is (a guide to what I would have to get into the menu system and check).
And the incoming air temperature reading in the menu system if the projector - which now I check less and less since I got the Bluetooth sensor which has a nice alert also (but this has not come up once yet but summer is yet to come.)
I now know that if my exhaust readout probe is showing x and the bluetooth sensor is y - all is good.
hockyAVS likes this.
Ash Sharma is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply Ultra Hi-End HT Gear ($20,000+)

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off