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Does the RS4500 expel a lot of heat? I notice that some have mentioned that the projector puts out heat like a mini heater. Just wondering if it is the same amount of heat as any other laser projector or if it does put out quite a bit of heat.
Maybe in high laser it puts out more heat. Depends on how cool your room is. On mid and low laser like I run it, it doesn't put out any more heat than any other projector I've had.

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Just got word from JVC Canada that they did NOT lower the MSRP on the RS4500 ( still $39,999 CAN, which equals $30,400 USD retail). What a disappointment !
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Just got word from JVC Canada that they did NOT lower the MSRP on the RS4500 ( still $39,999 CAN, which equals $30,400 USD retail). What a disappointment !
That's a bummer.

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Just got word from JVC Canada that they did NOT lower the MSRP on the RS4500 ( still $39,999 CAN, which equals $30,400 USD retail). What a disappointment !
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Not being from Canada I have not a clue what you can and cannot do as in buying from the USA and then transporting same to Canada ???

Is that possible to simply purchase from the USA over the border from Canada and then let it ride in an SUV to your home in Canada ???

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Not being from Canada I have not a clue what you can and cannot do as in buying from the USA and then transporting same to Canada ???



Is that possible to simply purchase from the USA over the border from Canada and then let it ride in an SUV to your home in Canada ???



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Yes, you certainly can. The risk is JVC canada will probably not honor the warranty if you buy in USA. That said, the street price is now WAY less in the US, so if they don’t drop the Canadian MSRP soon , purchasing in the states (and just paying out of pocket for potential repairs) makes economic sense.
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Just got word from JVC Canada that they did NOT lower the MSRP on the RS4500 ( still $39,999 CAN, which equals $30,400 USD retail). What a disappointment !
Same situation here in Aus......Still AUD $39,999 AND a 3 months wait from ordering...
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Yes, you certainly can. The risk is JVC canada will probably not honor the warranty if you buy in USA. That said, the street price is now WAY less in the US, so if they don’t drop the Canadian MSRP soon , purchasing in the states (and just paying out of pocket for potential repairs) makes economic sense.
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And as most of us know I cannot post what the B-Stock RS4500 is going for currently.
But, I can state if you for some reason don't know it is so low it would well be worth getting it from the USA No-Doubt !!!

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Same situation here in Aus......Still AUD $39,999 AND a 3 months wait from ordering...

I'd surmise for both us and Canada we are being punished by our rats*t exchange rate! .68c $US doesn't buy you much these days..
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Ok guys

I am getting ready to pull the trigger on my purchases of screen and projector.

I am looking at a 144” wide (156 diag) 16:9 non perf 1.3 gain screen. Would this work on the rs4500? I am assuming it will have to be in high laser mode. The projector will be 11 ft back from the seating position. Temperature in the room will not exceed 73 deg. I would like to avoid a hush box but one is possible. The projector will sit 29ft back from the screen, at the limit of its throw.

What is everyone’s opinion. I cannot go any smaller than a 132” wide (145 diag). If you were me what screen size would you get between 144 and 132 wide for this projector?

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Ok guys

I am getting ready to pull the trigger on my purchases of screen and projector.

I am looking at a 144” wide (156 diag) 16:9 non perf 1.3 gain screen. Would this work on the rs4500? I am assuming it will have to be in high laser mode. The projector will be 11 ft back from the seating position. Temperature in the room will not exceed 73 deg. I would like to avoid a hush box but one is possible. The projector will sit 29ft back from the screen, at the limit of its throw.

What is everyone’s opinion. I cannot go any smaller than a 132” wide (145 diag). If you were me what screen size would you get between 144 and 132 wide for this projector?

Thanks!
I think you'll be able to get away with mid laser on this to be honest especially if you set up a dynamic tone mapping for HDR input like madvr / lumagen or if JVC adds it to the firmware.

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Ok guys

I am getting ready to pull the trigger on my purchases of screen and projector.

I am looking at a 144” wide (156 diag) 16:9 non perf 1.3 gain screen. Would this work on the rs4500? I am assuming it will have to be in high laser mode. The projector will be 11 ft back from the seating position. Temperature in the room will not exceed 73 deg. I would like to avoid a hush box but one is possible. The projector will sit 29ft back from the screen, at the limit of its throw.

What is everyone’s opinion. I cannot go any smaller than a 132” wide (145 diag). If you were me what screen size would you get between 144 and 132 wide for this projector?

Thanks!
I'd go with a 145" diagonal 1.3 gain screen and sit a tad closer for the same field of view and a brighter picture !

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If you have the money to spend what it cost for the RS4500, it does seem like a "No Brainer". I guess the only question some may have, is why such a large price drop? Do you think it was a direct competition hit towards the Sony projectors? Or was it because a replacement is on the way? Just a thought, but then again like the saying goes..."Don't look a gift horse.....
Besides the great new pricing, one thing I thought about yesterday - the R4500 I have has been 100% trouble / bug free. Even my SIM2 Lumis Host sometimes had the firmware glitch out on occasion. There is something to be said for a mature product that's been out for a while. It's rock solid !
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the R4500 I have has been 100% trouble / bug free.
Again...... Same here...
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I'd estimate it puts out about 0.5kW more or less depending on laser setting.
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Again...... Same here...
And here (once I replaced the original one).

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Each time I watch some 4K stuff on this projector, I am simply stunned by the image quality I am allowed to view. This image taken from my iPhone from 13 feet away and zoomed so the resolution is severely compromised. But, even at that!!!
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Guys that above have commented on their RS4500 being Rock-Solid I totally agree.

I want my H/T to be one that works and not one that requires constant Fiddling/Refinement !!!

To me a H/T is a place to relax and totally 100% enjoy the Audio & Video experience.

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Guys for whoever uses this projector with madVR , do u use the filter to get 100% dci-p3 ? Since madVR is extreemly flexible for light output and can make up for the lost lumens easily. Or u prefer losing the wide gamut for more light output

Ill be using madVR for all movie watching and would like to know plz.

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Guys for whoever uses this projector with madVR , do u use the filter to get 100% dci-p3 ? Since madVR is extreemly flexible for light output and can make up for the lost lumens easily. Or u prefer losing the wide gamut for more light output

Ill be using madVR for all movie watching and would like to know plz.
Almost no one uses the filter. It costs too much light output. With filter you get more than 100% of DCI color space. I wish that JVC had reduced that down to 100% or even a little less, because then the light loss with filter would be much lower. The 4500 throws a great HDR image without the filter, but would have been nice to be able to use it.
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Guys for whoever uses this projector with madVR , do u use the filter to get 100% dci-p3 ? Since madVR is extreemly flexible for light output and can make up for the lost lumens easily. Or u prefer losing the wide gamut for more light output

Ill be using madVR for all movie watching and would like to know plz.
Absolutely not on that filter. If I have lumens to spare, I'd rather close my iris down and increase contrast.

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Guys for whoever uses this projector with madVR , do u use the filter to get 100% dci-p3 ? Since madVR is extreemly flexible for light output and can make up for the lost lumens easily. Or u prefer losing the wide gamut for more light output

Ill be using madVR for all movie watching and would like to know plz.
Absolutely not on that filter. If I have lumens to spare, I'd rather close my iris down and increase contrast.
That makes sense, any idea what % of dci-p3 it covers without the filter ?
So in madVR under "this display is calibrated" you use rec709 and calibrate the projector for that .

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Guys for whoever uses this projector with madVR , do u use the filter to get 100% dci-p3 ? Since madVR is extreemly flexible for light output and can make up for the lost lumens easily. Or u prefer losing the wide gamut for more light output

Ill be using madVR for all movie watching and would like to know plz.
Almost no one uses the filter. It costs too much light output. With filter you get more than 100% of DCI color space. I wish that JVC had reduced that down to 100% or even a little less, because then the light loss with filter would be much lower. The 4500 throws a great HDR image without the filter, but would have been nice to be able to use it.
Specially with madVR u dont need too much light, i was thinking the colors would improve but if it is close the dci-p3 without the filter it might not make much difference.

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That makes sense, any idea what % of dci-p3 it covers without the filter ?
So in madVR under "this display is calibrated" you use rec709 and calibrate the projector for that .
You can do that, but then you're in the rec709 colorspace, which still looks pretty good. You can also just select color profile "HDR" which puts you into the HDR colorspace without the filter and tell madVR you're calibrated for BT2020.
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You can do that, but then you're in the rec709 colorspace, which still looks pretty good. You can also just select color profile "HDR" which puts you into the HDR colorspace without the filter and tell madVR you're calibrated for BT2020.
which one are u using ? hdr + bt2020 ? do colors look different than when using rec709 .

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which one are u using ? hdr + bt2020 ? do colors look different than when using rec709 .

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Nearly everyone is using HDR mode (no color filter) and getting around 90% of DCI color space.
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Does the RS4500 expel a lot of heat? I notice that some have mentioned that the projector puts out heat like a mini heater. Just wondering if it is the same amount of heat as any other laser projector or if it does put out quite a bit of heat.


2561 BTU heat output. That’s a lot.


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Wow . Did you measure that on your RS4500 or is that posted somewhere?
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Although I did notice some members here who do own one have some type of air duct running right to it to remove heat.
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Wow . Did you measure that on your RS4500 or is that posted somewhere?


Sorry this was a mistake. High mode is 2561 BTU, medium laser is 1878 btu. I have edited my original post. Data from JVC when I reached out.



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Sorry this was a mistake. High mode is 2561 BTU, medium laser is 1878 btu. I have edited my original post. Data from JVC when I reached out.



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Since I am not sure what other projectors put out, is that still considered a ton of heat? Or is that what most other projectors put out, heat wise?
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