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Gen-X you mean? Me too...
Well, I like my version better, but yes.

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Well, I like my version better, but yes.
Just verifying..hehe

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Just verifying..hehe

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Let's be honest, Millennials shouldn't be able to afford this. Too busy buying avacados and such (joke)
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Let's be honest, Millennials shouldn't be able to afford this. Too busy buying avacados and such (joke)
Most are getting triggered over the color of avocados...
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Here's something: Does anyone here us the 'Clear White' control on their 760/885? I tried it at high this morning on some HDR material (Star Trek Discovery on Netflix), and flicked between on and off – and I like it. It gives white elements in the picture more punch and so subtly increases perceived contrast to my eye. What are your thoughts, all?

Edit: I changed my mind. Makes skin tones look weird.
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I heard rumors that the new firmware will enable proper laser dimming for those smokey black scenes. Has this been officially confirmed?
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I heard rumors that the new firmware will enable proper laser dimming for those smokey black scenes. Has this been officially confirmed?
They are altering their curves to give better shadow detail, and I hope the dimming will be improved.

A question I have that 870 owners may be able to answer (assuming the new firmware doesn't add extra functionality) and that is: Can you manually control the iris or turn it off independent from the laser dimming?

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They are altering their curves to give better shadow detail, and I hope the dimming will be improved.



A question I have that 870 owners may be able to answer (assuming the new firmware doesn't add extra functionality) and that is: Can you manually control the iris or turn it off independent from the laser dimming?

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[ADVANCED IRIS] Dynamic Control: Adjusts the range of the laser light and iris (diaphragm). Full: Automatically adjusts the laser light, iris (diaphragm), and signal processing according to the brightness level of the input source and optimizes the amount of light. This results in a bright and high contrast image. Limited: Compared to “Full,” it suppresses the movement and brightness of the laser light and iris (diaphragm). This is suitable for viewing a picture in a dark room. Off: The “Dynamic Control” function is not applied. Laser Light Output: The higher the setting, the brighter the picture. The lower the setting, the darker the picture. Tip Contrast Enhancer [CONTRAST ENHANCER] Adjust “Laser Light Output” according to the brightness of the picture.

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That is a shame.
Lack of manual iris control I still find puzzling.

How often does your iris operate when set to full? I think I read somewhere it only really gets used below 1.5%ADL.

Is that correct or does it move fairly often?

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Cheers.

That is a shame.

Lack of manual iris control I still find puzzling.



How often does your iris operate when set to full? I think I read somewhere it only really gets used below 1.5%ADL.



Is that correct or does it move fairly often?


Because my room is a dark room it set too limited Ive never done full too be honest


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Because my room is a dark room it set too limited Ive never done full too be honest


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If you an have a little look at some point to see how often it actually does anything I would aporeciate it.
I can't imagine it moves at all except for very dark scenes.

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If you an have a little look at some point to see how often it actually does anything I would aporeciate it.
I can't imagine it moves at all except for very dark scenes.


Will do, Ive never played around with it. Might do it soon try it on my ghost in the shell dark scene ( very low light scene ) to see how it goes. Will report back


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I’m trying it now and Full setting is actually better. I was actually going by the manual. Need to do more testing but so far so good


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I’️m trying it now and Full setting is actually better. I was actually going by the manual. Need to do more testing but so far so good


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Cool. How much is the iris actually doing though? Does it move a lot, or only on really dark scenes?

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Cool. How much is the iris actually doing though? Does it move a lot, or only on really dark scenes?


To be honest I don’t notice it moving. When I tried limited to full I noticed the difference but I still have to try some more. Something that is bright than straight to dark.


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Ive tried another where a scene changes from dark too light straight away and seems to be very quick.


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By that, you mean the iris operates quickly I assume?

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Cheers.
That is a shame.
Lack of manual iris control I still find puzzling.

How often does your iris operate when set to full? I think I read somewhere it only really gets used below 1.5%ADL.

Is that correct or does it move fairly often?
I believe the reason stated in the 5000 forum was heat related. Although these units are likely lower temp, but still maybe the same reason. SJ
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By that, you mean the iris operates quickly I assume?


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Cool.
If you pause it on the dark scene, does the iris stay closed?

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Cool.

If you pause it on the dark scene, does the iris stay closed?


I never tried that will have too tonight.


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Started reading an article about the dynamic iris on Sony projectors they wrote Dynamic Full Brightness : N/A and Limited brightness 0-99. While having it off reverts to iris manual control using Brightness 0-99. Is that true ?


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After one day with this projector I thought I'd share my initial impressions as so many new owners have done earlier in the thread. My basis for comparison is my previous projector, a VW260/285ES.

Pros:
* Well, it's a lot brighter, isn't it. And that extra brightness really can be put to some good uses: HDR and 3D benefit expecially, but games also take on a far more vibrant, rich and solid-looking quality than my previous projector
* Image stability is also very noticeble. I wasn't sensitive to lamp microflicker, but I do notice when it's not there
* 3D is astonishing once properly tweaked – Avatar is still the gold standard and I've never seen it looking like that. Absolutely mesmerising
* It does really very well indeed with HDR. It's very noticeable running HDR versus SDR where it all felt pretty much the same with my previous projector. Nice not to have to fall back on external mapping of any kind. I know some of you swear by it, but I'm genuinely happy with the internal HDR curves right now – at least until its calibrated
* This thing does colour like nothing I've ever seen in a projector. Absolutely eye-melting colour reproduction (albeit a lot of red push at the mo as not yet calibrated)
* Decent enough blacks in MOST situations
* It's quiet enough I don't notice it so long as there are other sounds in the room

Cons:
* I know there was a lot of back and forth in this thread and the other regarding its black performance in near-dark scenes and I totally concur with @Bandyka on this. Perceived contrast in low light scenes is pretty awful. Just try watching a dark show like Sabrina or Carnival Row and this PJ does not do well at all. Obviously, the new firmware is looking to address precisely this, so I will leave that there
* The OOTB colours are quite a long way off. Like, I'm an amateur/enthusiast with an amateur's eye and yet I can see how far off it is

Other than that, looking forward to the weekend. The Mrs and I are going to watch the Hobbit trilogy in 3D – she hasn't seen it. So a bit of a marathon. I've no doubt this will be my projector for the next five years or so. Roll on the firmware!
I take back some of this. Turns out that both those shows, especially Carnival Row, were graded poorly and have a widely reported elevated black floor at the source. Have since watched a fair amount of low-light stuff that looks great.
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Started reading an article about the dynamic iris on Sony projectors they wrote Dynamic Full Brightness : N/A and Limited brightness 0-99. While having it off reverts to iris manual control using Brightness 0-99. Is that true ?


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I think that will only apply to the lamp based projectors, who's only control over dimming is the iris. They have no direct light source control.

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I take back some of this. Turns out that both those shows, especially Carnival Row, were graded poorly and have a widely reported elevated black floor at the source. Have since watched a fair amount of low-light stuff that looks great.
You will find that these laser projectors do one thing exceedingly well and that is to show up poor source content in all it's glory!
It is the same as Hi-Fi. Rubbish in, rubbish out. Which gets made all the worse if you have kit that shows up all flaws in bad source material.

Stick on a well mastered 4k DI UHD disc, using the same settings, straight afterwards (say Mortal Engines) and you will see what superlative images these can produce with decent source material.
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You will find that these laser projectors do one thing exceedingly well and that is to show up poor source content in all it's glory!
It is the same as Hi-Fi. Rubbish in, rubbish out. Which gets made all the worse if you have kit that shows up all flaws in bad source material.

Stick on a well mastered 4k DI UHD disc, using the same settings, straight afterwards (say Mortal Engines) and you will see what superlative images these can produce with decent source material.
Mortal Engines, though... *shudders*

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Mortal Engines, though... *shudders*
Not the best movie no, but you know what, I found it entertaining enough and it makes for excellent demo material.
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