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post #31 of 42 Old 07-13-2018, 12:16 AM
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Let's enjoy with what ever projectors that we have and why don't to show some nice pictures for fun ?
You are correct and I did go off on a tangent. The Barco video admittedly got under my skin, as it reminded me of Cedia '15.

If you projector satisfies your needs, then that is all that matters.

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I think the question is will Barco come with something that will greatly increase contrast, rumor has it they will.
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The BARCO contrast are good enough compare to others that always show data for marketing purpose. But the way to give the number might be different.
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Thanks for the info Boonyarat. I am definitely a Barco fan. It would be great to see more units with great ansi contrast and great sequential contrast. Remember, here we are mostly a board of enthusiast. Most home theaters are probably not velvet pits, but there are quite a few on this board. I am in the minority here, but I have always leaned more towards a high ansi picture as long as the black threshold was sufficient. It could be content related but while I appreciate sequential contrast; especially as I improved my room there were still only a few scenes or movies where I really felt sequential contrast was a dominate factor. I would however agree that in rooms with no reflections or stray light; sequential dominates in low apl scenes. In my opinion, that is because the projected black level/ threshold has to be much lower to be perceived as black. In those rooms DLP Black will struggle a lot in scenes less that 5% APL or in scenes with a large luminance range.






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The BARCO contrast are good enough compare to others that always show data for marketing purpose. But the way to give the number might be different.
I don't believe anyone here endorses marketing claims from any manufacturer. Most here give validity to data from reliable sources like a Kris Deering.


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Thanks for the info Boonyarat. I am definitely a Barco fan. It would be great to see more units with great ansi contrast and great sequential contrast. Remember, here we are mostly a board of enthusiast. Most home theaters are probably not velvet pits, but there are quite a few on this board. I am in the minority here, but I have always leaned more towards a high ansi picture as long as the black threshold was sufficient. It could be content related but while I appreciate sequential contrast; especially as I improved my room there were still only a few scenes or movies where I really felt sequential contrast was a dominate factor. I would however agree that in rooms with no reflections or stray light; sequential dominates in low apl scenes. In my opinion, that is because the projected black level/ threshold has to be much lower to be perceived as black. In those rooms DLP Black will struggle a lot in scenes less that 5% APL or in scenes with a large luminance range.
You do realize that a bad room has an effect on ANSI contrast?

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2560 x 1600 x 120hz, I knew the 4K TI chips at 0.64 inches could do it (presumably in 1:1 pixel mapping with no scaling), but it's nice to have proof.
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Let's enjoy with Bright and Clear from BARCO "MEDEA" , this model main purpose for media room with light. I do really like the way designed and had no problem with technical contrast numbers







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Of course. A bad room is probably not optimal for any measure of front projection on/off or ansi.





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You do realize that a bad room has an effect on ANSI contrast?

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I've had some nice DLP projectors. One with measured sequential contrast five times that and the next one brighter but sequential contrast three times that. Although in scenes like those you show there it looked wonderful I just had to let it go as soon as I could ,since in low APL of any kind, the action looked like the characters were moving around in a constant fog bank. Unfortunately, this made it so I'd just sit there watching a movie hoping it didn't have any low APL scenes.


This is where DLP needs to work. Laser doesn't respond to aperture the way that lamp based did so this has been a problem getting acceptable low end performance.


There are some folks working on alternatives but they ain't cheap.


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As I said let's enjoy with what ever you preferred but BARCO still nice DLP projector in many ways and I have never had problem that you mention, sorry








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Is anyone using a Medea in a dedicated theatre (bat cave environment) and calibrated it for optimal image fidelity ?

I love the brightness of this projector which would allow for a bigger screen but the lack of a P3 filter concerns me.

Can this projector provide HDR and how close can it come to the P3 gamut ?

Does it have built-in tone mapping ability ?

Any idea how the Medea compares to the Nero4S in terms of image fidelity ?
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