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The Wall 219" and The Window 75" MicroLED Displays at CES 2019

Samsung expands its microLED display offerings with giant version of The Wall that measures 219" as well as a new product called The Window that measures 75". Posting here because 219" 4K emissive screens cost a fortune and are clearly ultra high-end.

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"Featuring groundbreaking self-emissive MicroLED technology, The Wall at 219” and The Window deliver unparalleled picture quality that excel in every performance category. These revolutionary MicroLED modular displays can be configured to any resolution, aspect ratio, size or shape while optimizing the content on screen. Whether it is 75”or 219”, these revolutionary displays can support everything from standard 16:9 HD content, to 21:9 widescreen films, to unconventional aspect ratios like 32:9, or even 1:1 – without having to make compromises in its picture quality." - Samsung Electronics

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Samsung expands its microLED display offerings with giant version of The Wall that measures 219" as well as a new product called The Window that measures 75". Posting here because 219" 4K emissive screens cost a fortune and are clearly ultra high-end.

I'll post more information shortly, for now here's info from the press release:

"Featuring groundbreaking self-emissive MicroLED technology, The Wall at 219” and The Window deliver unparalleled picture quality that excel in every performance category. These revolutionary MicroLED modular displays can be configured to any resolution, aspect ratio, size or shape while optimizing the content on screen. Whether it is 75”or 219”, these revolutionary displays can support everything from standard 16:9 HD content, to 21:9 widescreen films, to unconventional aspect ratios like 32:9, or even 1:1 – without having to make compromises in its picture quality." - Samsung Electronics
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Are these Diagonal at 16:9 sizes 75 inch or 219 or are they Width at 2:40?
Please let us know.
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Please look to see if seams are visible at <10' with a moving or static image displayed. Also please look to see if there are uniformity variability issues from panel to panel both color and light output.

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These are great. I hope they're commonplace 5 years from now.
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My Apple Store in Seattle has a huge wall like display. You can see the seams though on certain content. Besides that and the dead or stuck pixels, it is absolutely stunning. A good view into the future!
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You can see the seams though on certain content. Besides that and the dead or stuck pixels, it is absolutely stunning.
Unfortunately , I have to say that that's enough to make it unacceptable for critical viewing.
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Please look to see if seams are visible at <10' with a moving or static image displayed. Also please look to see if there are uniformity variability issues from panel to panel both color and light output.

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I just got back from Vegas yesterday. You really could not see the seams up close at all. There were some panels that were off color (purple-ish) and I told the information guy. He said already let the engineers know. He said that it can easily be adjusted, but it would take time, which they did not have during the show, as the would have to dissemble the Wall. He said when they assemble the wall, they use a special coating so you can't see the seams.
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I just got back from Vegas yesterday. You really could not see the seams up close at all. There were some panels that were off color (purple-ish) and I told the information guy. He said already let the engineers know. He said that it can easily be adjusted, but it would take time, which they did not have during the show, as the would have to dissemble the Wall. He said when they assemble the wall, they use a special coating so you can't see the seams.
I tend to agree, while some other companies showed modular LED wall type displays, only Samsung seems to have the tiles worked out to the point where the seams are hidden. Perhaps this is related to the fact that it has evolved this product for commercial cinematic applications (which I have seen) before turning it into The Wall.

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I tend to agree, while some other companies showed modular LED wall type displays, only Samsung seems to have the tiles worked out to the point where the seams are hidden. Perhaps this is related to the fact that it has evolved this product for commercial cinematic applications (which I have seen) before turning it into The Wall.
Mark, I’m super excited about this one. Potentially, you have perfect blacks of OLED, with searing highlight capabilities of LED-lit LCD panels. Was that your impression at CES?

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Chris also had an extremely favorable review of this as well, said seams invisible with content.

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whatever happened to Sony's CLEDIS?

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whatever happened to Sony's CLEDIS?


Sony has it at CES as well. It was showing mainly video game content but it looks fantastic as well. They have changed the name to CrystalLED.






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Whoever is building a new theater should keep a Wall Retrofit down the road in mind... for front speakers placement.
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Whoever is building a new theater should keep a Wall Retrofit down the road in mind... for front speakers placement.

Yea ,this is huge since the shell for speakers and screen sizes like we use would need to be much larger.

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I'm dying to see one of these displays in person. I've been a part of the installation work for a couple of the LED direct view displays. A 11' wide dual 1080p setup and a dual 16.5' wide 2160p setup. I've just always had issues with the seams and there was some false contouring on both of them that I didn't like at all.

But, I got to watch the superbowl on the 16' 4K display which was pretty cool.

These look better, but I would expect price tags for larger sizes to be well over a quarter million.

The ones I was a part of were closer to million dollar installations. And, you have to include installation on these things.

If it looks as good as OLED, I'm on board. Now where's my winning lottery ticket?

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Figures going round are more like double that. So I am sure you aren´t done recommending and installing 310-390W lamp based projectors that have seriously reduced msrp-going price after a number of years on the market, yet. Would you recommend laser/phosphor units yet, to the big screen-ambient light crowd. I guess short-livety of the models keeps them pricey.

Complete projects? $1 million for just an 4K SMD RGB LED is super high margin, not even SiliconCore is that expensive anymore. The indication on the Samsung Onyx was 600K+. Indeed initially two weeks installation plus another week for the audio.

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Cmax says

To the skeptics about the large glass surfaces, due to the proximity effect of the columns, this is what the model predicts for sound performance at the selfish bastard seat. Near perfect RT values of 400. What the head of Dolby prefers. Also a glimpse at the adjacent areas of the PH.






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To the skeptics about the large glass surfaces, due to the proximity effect of the columns, this is what the model predicts for sound performance at the selfish bastard seat. Near perfect RT values of 400. What the head of Dolby prefers. Also a glimpse at the adjacent areas of the PH.
Looking forward to seeing that room finished out, and the final results.

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