Originally Posted by jqmn
Well alrighty then...haven't seen anyone claim they didn't like Sony colors...have seen people say that calibrated red is calibrated red so how could Sony be different than JVC if properly calibrated...
Sorry, but this is not good color performance:
The SONYs, when accurately calibrated, are not capable of reaching more than 80% - 90% of DCI-P3 within BT.2020 without without usage of a BT.2020 color filter and the color filter in the SONY 5000ES knocks out circa 40-45% of light output so you can't use it, wherein it covers only circa 85% of DCI-P3 at best. And none of the new SONY projectors, such as the 995/870ES and the 885/760ES have any BT.2020 color filters at all, so they are hamstrung in this regard.
It does not matter how well you calibrate a projector, if you don't have the gamut coverage, you don't have the gamut coverage. Meaning you can't calibrate the full range of color properly and cannot achieve reference color. End of story. I mean seriously, come on think about it, how are you going to accurately calibrate 100% saturation points if you don't have 100% gamut coverage? In short, you can't. Consequently, you cannot achieve reference color with HDR with any of these Sony projectors, however well you calibrate them. Like I said, if you don't have the gamut coverage you don't have the gamut coverage, and this is where SONY projectors currently fall short.
Whereas, the SIM2 HDR DUO PLUS surpasses any and all SONY projectors by a mile by achieving up to 107% coverage of DCI-P3 and circa 85% of BT.2020, which I estimate is about 25%-30% more coverage of BT.2020 than the SONYs.
And I hate to say it, but that's not all... SONY projectors typically can't process 10-Bit color properly, which is what causes the manifestation of posterization/banding for which they are renown. Sure you can use Smooth Gradiation video processing to help eliminate the banding but doing so that softens the image and doesn't help the suboptimal color performance.
Seriously anyone who thinks a SONY projector has good color, has never seen good color. End of story. Greens, Reds, and Cyan performance in particular is poor.
Just to be clear, the ultimate target and reference standard for color is 100% coverage of BT.2020, which can already be achieved via full RGB laser projection. The milestone of 100% coverage of DCI-P3 within BT.2020 color gamut has already been surpassed, so all eyes should now be on the 100% of BT.2020 target. Whereas SONY is still struggling but failing to achieve 100% of DCI-P3.
So do SONY projectors have good color? Nope. Color performance ranks MEDIOCRE.
Don't get me wrong, I love SONY. All my TVs are SONY. I personally owned a SONY 1100ES projector for 5 years, and currently personally own a SONY 995/870ES. But I won't ignore their flaws. And it cannot be said that as of right now SONY projectors all offer good color performance. Sorry, but 85% - 90% coverage of DCI-P3 with projectors costing up to $70,000+ is not good enough. Sorry, but it just isn't! So it would be great to see SONY step up their game with their 2020 new projector model releases announced later this year in this regard and improve the gamut coverage of the projectors.
I really hope some of the folks who frequent this forum get to see the SIM2 HDR DUO PLUS sometime. Just wait until you see the color performance of this thing. Seriously the difference in color peformance as compared with the Sony projectors is night and day.
In fact, methinks that a shootout versus a SONY 5000ES is in order