I've not had a single issue with MakeMKV so far. Its easy enough to select the main video track and the main Atmos audio track.
I've found a few specific concerns with MKVs:
1. I primarily used an Oppo for my playback. It had stutter on some Disney audio tracks in MKV that did not manifest in ISOs. In addition, there's some TrueHD MKV audio nuances with the Oppo as well that don't manifest in ISO.
2. My family likes special features anyway so keeping the full disc is nice. Ripping to ISO full disc ensure everything is there.
3. Less so with 4k discs than HD BDs, but playlist obfuscation sucks when you encounter it. Needing to research the right playlist or inspect to find it, ugh. Ripping to ISO full disc avoids this.
4. TV shows are a terrible hassle combing through each episode ripped from a disc as the playlist order often does not correspond to proper episode order. That means time spent watching the first 10 second of every episode ripped of the MKV vs. the disc itself to match them up. Ripping to ISO full disc avoids this.
5. Forced subtitles it the big one though. I know there's a sheet, but it's not complete nor always accurate. Forced subs can be their own track, embedded in another track, can show up in multiple tracks, and so on. That stuff is a nightmare. If you really want to ensure you're getting the right forced subs in your rip, you really have to jump through hoops to manually verify them and sometimes even edit them. To those that just use only MakeMKV and think you're getting the right subs all the time, you're probably not. My interests tend towards sci-fi/fantasy/anime and so on that often has a lot of this going on.
5a. Many players don't even honor the forced subtitle flag in an MKV. Plus if you want to keep regular subs and have forced in an MKV, prepare for a lot of hand editing. Lastly, sometimes the forced subs are often artistically part of the movie (ex. John Wick). So if you just make MKVs and use a player without real PGS support, you get just plain text on the screen.
ISO full disc downsides though are the extra storage and needing to wade through the garbage to get to a movie. And full menu ISO playback is harder to come by in players. But, it just makes everything so easy and accurate.
Both options have the potential to be a dead end street if studios stop printing discs. But when I made my own decision, I determined that the bigger dead end street was the potential of K going bust (again) and me being left with 10-15 grands worth of paper-weights, or studios pulling support (think Disney and Netflix).
At least with ripping I'll always own the physical media as a backup, and if I need to junk my 200 quid Zidoo in 5 years time because there are no new discs, its not going to be a major financial loss.
Yes, I agree. That's why I'm flipping back to DiY server for now. K has business risk too for sure that may not bother some. Without MA, I'm choosing not to build up a library of K content. With MA, K becomes uber attractive again. That's why I'm going to hold onto my player for a bit yet and see vs. selling right away.
What do you use to rip to ISOs? And will it decrypt the 4K stuff? And when you do full rip, is there a way to get to the movie and easily and bypass all of the warnings, previews, etc?
DeUHD and AnyDVD. I would primarily use DeUHD for 4k discs and AnyDVD for BD/DVD. Once click rip in either tool. Both support 4k decryption, but DeUHD is the lead program for that.
Per above, no way to skip the warnings and such. For us, once we decide on a movie, it's usually a few minutes before everyone settles in to view. So, I start playback earlier and the trailers and such play in the background.
Although.. I just saw this device advertised this morning:
On their web page, they say: "Display the DVD, Blu-ray and UHD menus and access to the additional contents, director's cut or theatrical version, bonus and extras, bookmarks, etc. This feature is compatible with both ISO and BDMV (DVD, Blu-ray, Blu-ray 3D and UHD). If you do not want to display the menus, you can start a movie immediately without trailers or warnings. The seamless branching is also supported for perfect gapless playback on director cut editions."
That's interesting. I'm still going to stick with the Oppo for now, but Zappiti has done some good things lately and legitimized themselves a bit (even CEDIA members now). So this box could be something.