Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn
Is this in the UK Nigel ?
Yes. However, very easy access from the United States due to being located only 20 minutes from London Heathrow International Airport
Originally Posted by bobof
Staggering, yes, but I can't help feel that if what you are after is a dark room display for HT purposes it is also utterly pointless. Of all the things I pick on about my room, not once has brightness ever come to mind these days.
OK, maybe if you're trying to light a 15ft-20ft display you'll have a different take on things, but for most of us mortals the brightness capabilities of these just ain't a thing.
Utterly pointless? Not really
I agree that 2000 nits peak luminance is probably the least interesting performance feature for those of us with blacked out home theater environments; however, this does have the benefit of requiring less dependance on tone mapping with HDR, wherein the higher the luminance dynamic range, the less tone mapping is required and the closer we are to replicating the real world.
Further to this, there are also a number of additional USPs versus the typical projector, such as pixel level black level control for contrast and black level performance just as good as OLED, but with superior dynamic range as compared with OLED. Also, the superior colour performance which rivals that of the best fully RGB laser projectors, with 100% coverage of the BT.2020 color gamut, which is superior to OLED as well.
Additionally, there's the support for the likes of Dolby Vision (Sony Crystal LED) and HDR10+ (SAMSUNG The Wall) which currently projectors do not benefit from; although there is the frame-by-frame tone-mapping offerings by MadVR and Lumagen PRO for use with HDR10 content.
So actually these modular video walls have quite a lot of advantages versus most projectors. But then there are the negatives as well, which I have already mentioned, although none of these are insurmountable issues
Originally Posted by Steve Bruzonsky
What is needed is 100% acoustically video transparent acoustic treatments to go over/on top of the screen walls at places! HA!
Regardless of how many zillion speakers we have in our home theatre systems now, the most important are still the very front screen speakers and soundstage. In wall/on wall speakers simply don't give the 3D musical and imaging that excellent floorstanding speakers do (I admit I am somewhat
biased/prejudiced in this regard. So if the room is tall enough, and excellent center speaker(s) can be just under the screen (maybe over, too?), and front left and right speakers floorstanding out into the theatre some, I think that will really help sonics! Of course I know ARROW AV loves Steinway Lyngdorf and that their Room Perfect room correction is designed to work with floorstanders just in front of the front screen wall, and their super duper expensive demo at last CEDIA was excellent, musical and 3D! I expect this is ARROW AV's secret sause with the screen wall and it just may work. Of course the Steinway-Lyngdorf audio theatre system demod at CEDIA was I think just south of $400k msrp! Myself I'm a bit more audio purist and would rather place the front speakers into the room and away from the walls some for the best objective and subjective sonics possible without room correction, and then apply the room correction. It would be interesting to have an excellent Steinway-Lyngdorf audiophile theatre system and apply the Room Perfect vs the Trinnov room correction/optimization and hear the results!
Couple of things here
I agree that you can achieve fabulous results with in-room floor standing Front Left and Front Right speakers; however, I disagree that you cannot achieve as good audio performance in other ways. The Steinway Lyngdorf demo at CEDIA 2018 last September was illustrative of this fact. Wherein, since you mention it, Room Perfect room correction is not specifically designed to work with floorstanders just in front of the front screen wall, but with respect to all kinds of speaker configurations.
There is a partnering between SAMSUNG and Steinway Lyngdorf with respect to The Wall that includes floorstanders just in front of the front screen wall, but let's just say there is more than one way to skin a cat. You are close, but no cigar, because my particular audio system design does not in fact make use of in-room floor-standing speakers, which still does not solve the issue of the centre channel by the way, and in fact can become visually obstructive with very large sized screens and wider screen aspect ratios than 16:9, so is impractical in such circumstances. However, what I will say is that DSP and room correction is absolutely key.
I will start a new thread at a later date regarding the systems I am building here, and like I have said I will be hosting some AV parties wherein there will be opportunity for folks who are interested to attend. I did this previously regarding another build of mine with respect to another AV Forum and everyone had lots of fun. But let's leave further discussion until then as I don't want to venture off the topic of this thread