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Just put them in the winter home, save money on heat
Like they say... if you worry about the price of gas and the mileage then you don't afford a Ferrari...

What a epic install - Kudos...
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Like they say... if you worry about the price of gas and the mileage then you don't afford a Ferrari...

What a epic install - Kudos...

More of a koenigsegg guy, but agree
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The Kaleidescape has tons of reference 4k hdr content in BT 2020 color, with huge file sizes on some, 4k from Vudu is highly compressed, even some of the hd files are larger than bluray. Titles like Planet Earth 2, Spiderman Far from Home, Doctor Strange, John Wick 3 (I could put together a list) would push the image quality of the display to the limit.

In K you download the files to the local 6 or 12 terabytes (expandable) before playback, Vudu, appletv, shield are just streamers. The only way they can be comparable is on very poorly mastered movies, and there are many (uncut gems, sicario2) but when the transfer is great then there is no comparison.
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The Kaleidescape has tons of reference 4k hdr content in BT 2020 color, with huge file sizes on some, 4k from Vudu is highly compressed, even some of the hd files are larger than bluray. Titles like Planet Earth 2, Spiderman Far from Home, Doctor Strange, John Wick 3 (I could put together a list) would push the image quality of the display to the limit.

In K you download the files to the local 6 or 12 terabytes (expandable) before playback, Vudu, appletv, shield are just streamers. The only way they can be comparable is on very poorly mastered movies, and there are many (uncut gems, sicario2) but when the transfer is great then there is no comparison.
No doubt K would look excellent here - but I believe the OP is running a Plex server, streaming without re-encoding BD/UHD content - so the difference won't be K vs low-bandwidth streaming, it'll be K vs UHD.

Of course, if the source file is a dud then 'crap-in-crap-out'.

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Interesting. That's 58.3 degrees Celsius

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Yes - The Wall is warm and cuddly - not like the chilly mean Eclipse

58.3 is pretty warm for such a large surface area so it will be lovely in winter but need proper AC handling for the rest of the year.

Prefetch - Thank you for measuring the temperature in use, can I ask you please: does The Wall make any noise in operation? any audible cooling fans or similar?
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the kaleidescape sounds pretty cool - but i'm currently blown away by HD content and 4k streaming on this system, so if i tried kaleidescape i might have an aneurism!

i measured the power consumption - it's about 2.9kw. this varies somewhat based on the brightness levels of the screen. for example, during calibration and showing a pure white screen it jumps up a bit - but on average during movie watching it's about 2.9kw. we're going off-grid solar, so no biggie. ;-)

as far as noise goes - it's silent. i can't detect any noise at all.






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Beautiful!

Did you consider doing 6x5 with a 2.13 ratio? For most movies, you'll have an entire row of 6 panels that are basically not used.

Abstract yourself!
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That looks superb - absolutely superb.
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it's actually on a lift, so when we're not using the tv, it goes down into the basement. there is a big fireplace in that stone wall in the background.
OMG. But I gotta thank you, I no longer have the most ridiculously over the top set up

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Beautiful!

Did you consider doing 6x5 with a 2.13 ratio? For most movies, you'll have an entire row of 6 panels that are basically not used.

the 6x6 setup fit perfectly over the previous installation, and the system is not exclusively used for movies (videos games, powerpoint presentation, etc.)
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OMG. But I gotta thank you, I no longer have the most ridiculously over the top set up


hey thanks again for helping me get hooked up with the right system integrators to get this project going.

so we're the only two guys that are owners in the "Samsung Wall Owners Thread" - we need some more owners!

also - i'm just curious if you've had any technical issues come up since your install. it seems like the samsung guys are top notch, and the software and driver are really tightly integrated, so i don't anticipate any problems, but i'm just curious how things are going so far.
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LOL. What ruckus? And there's nothing to settle. According to Samsung themselves the heat production output with respect to a 6x6 configuration Samsung The Wall will be 15,973 BTU (typical) - 18,430 BTU (maximum)

However, it is worth noting that with respect to this particular installation any and all heat emination after the screen is turned off will end up in the basement given the whole rig is on a lift which disappears through the floor into the basement when turned off. So the heat production will only be outputted into the room whilst it is in operation and not thereafter

Also, folks really should not compare Video Walls with the Christie Eclipse anyway. These are different products for different applications / environments

For those who are interested here's the heat production for the various different configurations of The Wall:



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FWIW, my 4x4 The Wall (only 4K, sniff), at about 7,100 BTU, dumps its heat into the very well insulated theater. The regular ambient air theater HVAC has no trouble coping with the extra load, although the AC does turn on more frequently now when watching. Obv, no heat when the system is off.

Since we are talking heat - the Media player (the thing that drives the screens, and has all the HDMI and network inputs) runs pretty darn hot. You don't want to install it under other components in a rack. Ideally, you'd have a fair bit of empty air above it.
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as far as noise goes - it's silent. i can't detect any noise at all.

Fantastic setup...
What I am digging about the 'Wall' is the social aspect of movie watching on the 'Wall' - these days with the family quarantined (although I am in essential services industry and working every day) - we gather around in our living room and chat watching TV... having a drink etc.
Going to my theater is like an occasion and I less and less go there alone and sit and watch movies.
The Wall gives way more utility and flexibility - that's why Peter (Cinermax) is installing them in high rise apartments with great views.
This install is just amazing with the basement to hide the wall when not in use - just genius - and you need the space/basement.
I have the exact spot for this size wall in my home - but no way to hide the Wall like you do.
Long rant short - the social Aspect of a Wall to me and enjoying movies with family in a open space ... and sports off course... is priceless.
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hey thanks again for helping me get hooked up with the right system integrators to get this project going.

so we're the only two guys that are owners in the "Samsung Wall Owners Thread" - we need some more owners!

also - i'm just curious if you've had any technical issues come up since your install. it seems like the samsung guys are top notch, and the software and driver are really tightly integrated, so i don't anticipate any problems, but i'm just curious how things are going so far.
I did have a panel that would turn off - it turned out to be a bad cable (Samsung cable). After that issue, nothing else has gone wrong. Works great, stable. And Samsung support to fix that issue was superb.

I find that I use the streaming apps that come with the Wall a lot. I use the built in Apple TV app, the ESPN+ app, the Disney app, the HBO app, etc.
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Mr. Prefetch, since you have been so accomodating with all our queries and whims, how does one measure the temperature of a wall? an airport thermometer.

One final request, how about dubbing this soundtrack on the above
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I find that I use the streaming apps that come with the Wall a lot. I use the built-in Apple TV app, the ESPN+ app, the Disney app, the HBO app, etc.
Yes in theory at least having the app inside the STB is a more direct connection than the externally connected Roku, should be cleaner. The same applies to flatscreens.

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the kaleidescape sounds pretty cool - but i'm currently blown away by HD content and 4k streaming on this system, so if i tried kaleidescape i might have an aneurism!

i measured the power consumption - it's about 2.9kw. this varies somewhat based on the brightness levels of the screen. for example, during calibration and showing a pure white screen it jumps up a bit - but on average during movie watching it's about 2.9kw. we're going off-grid solar, so no biggie. ;-)

as far as noise goes - it's silent. i can't detect any noise at all.




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Mr. Prefetch, since you have been so accomodating with all our queries and whims, how does one measure the temperature of a wall? an airport thermometer.

One final request, how about dubbing this soundtrack on the above
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https://youtu.be/mF_6cSads0E

during the installation the installers would have each individual display show their own temperature reading. they did this at various times during the setup and tuning process to make sure nothing was overheating.

heating isn't a big issue where the unit is installed - it's a very, very large room with very high ceilings (~30 feet or so) and i'm up high in the mountains so the ambient outdoor temperature is pretty mild, even in the middle of summer.

the energy reading (~2.9kw) was from my own sensors that are connected to my power system.

and yes, sometimes it does feel a bit james bond around here..
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the kaleidescape sounds pretty cool - but i'm currently blown away by HD content and 4k streaming on this system, so if i tried kaleidescape i might have an aneurism!

i measured the power consumption - it's about 2.9kw. this varies somewhat based on the brightness levels of the screen. for example, during calibration and showing a pure white screen it jumps up a bit - but on average during movie watching it's about 2.9kw. we're going off-grid solar, so no biggie. ;-)

as far as noise goes - it's silent. i can't detect any noise at all.






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For those other The Wall owners (@prefetch), if you want to reorganize the apps on the home screen, or delete an app, you can download The Wall app (available ONLY for certain Samsung tablets) and rearrange things. More info attached.
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For those other The Wall owners (@prefetch), if you want to reorganize the apps on the home screen, or delete an app, you can download The Wall app (available ONLY for certain Samsung tablets) and rearrange things. More info attached.
oh cool. i didn't know about this. thanks.

also, someone asked about why i went with the full 6x6:



ok sorry, i'll stop flexing now. i'm just super pumped!!
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ok sorry, i'll stop flexing now.
NO-NO, Carry on, carry on, we are witnessing history in the making vicariously! 4x 96" screens in one!
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Fantastic setup, thanks for the photos!
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the energy reading (~2.9kw) was from my own sensors that are connected to my power system.

Well that's a really good sign TBH - that's just over 10,000 BTUs for your 6x6 system, well below the 16,000 to 18,000 BTU theoretical output from the chart and entirely manageable in such a large room.

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Heh! Fantastic social setup, A++

And for April Fools Day you can just retract the screen mid-game and watch everyone run down to the basement...
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oh cool. i didn't know about this. thanks.

also, someone asked about why i went with the full 6x6:



ok sorry, i'll stop flexing now. i'm just super pumped!!

Is that 4 separate feeds? How many inputs can you do simultaneously?

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