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Hey everyone,

Rick built a pair of "Ceramica" towers for me and I took delivery of them sometime last month. I have actually been in the process of moving into a new home, so I haven't been able to post my thoughts/impressions on the speakers, which they certainly deserve.

First, Rick is a class act to deal with and do business with, and I can't say enough good things about him or recommend him enough to anyone who is considering one of his builds. I had purchased a set of 4 "Tonos" from him previously for my father, and I knew I wanted him to make me my own set of speakers when I was ready.. Rick kept in touch with me throughout the process, he responded to e-mails promptly, answered probably a few dozen questions from me, and he stuck to the lead time he and I originally discussed.

Speakers: I previously owned almost entirely Ascend products, the Sierra Towers, Sierra Bookshelves 1 & 2, and I used the Horizons as mains for a while. Absolutely loved everything I owned from them, so I certainly cannot take anything away from them. Simply put, I asked Rick to make me something that could beat out any pair of speakers I ever had, and he most certainly delivered. I love the "airy" sound of ribbon tweeters, coupled with a nice neutral sound. Rick gave me just that, and put together a pair of speakers that exceeded my expectations. I've found myself listening to more music than I typically do, only because I really enjoy the Ceramicas that much. Two things I've noticed about them which have really stood out: First, they sound absolutely perfect without a subwoofer. Granted, having the sub on does make a difference, but they just don't need it.. They sound full, and certainly don't lack anywhere that leaves me wanting more. And secondly, the way it literally sounds as if the sound is coming directly from the center speaker, even though it is not utilized in stereo mode, has left me speechless. I haven't ever been able to really "localize" the sound from them, they just blend and image perfectly. I mostly use them for TV/HT in a now nearly 4500 cubic foot room, and again, I have nothing more to desire. The build quality is superb, I went with a very simple black finish which for me is exactly what I wanted. The speakers are very heavy, they have a great base which gives me peace of mind, and it is evident the speakers were very well built.

In fact, I loved them so much, I put a deposit last week for Rick to build me a center speaker with matching drivers for the Ceramicas, and I can't wait to integrate them into my system! I am not familiar with every "ID" brand out there, I've really only been loyal to one brand before Selah, but from the research I've done, I am not sure that at this price point, and the quality of speakers Rick is putting out, anything else can compete.

Thanks again Rick, looking forward to my center.

Mike
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So you are the owner of those beautiful Ceramicas that I saw elsewhere? Congrats, even on paper those drivers make for an impressive combination. That plus Rick's years of experience with crossovers means those Ceramica towers will sing for you for a long time. Selah is right up there with the best of the best ID has to offer.
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Rick Craig from Selah Audio just sent me this picture of my finished cabinets with drivers mounted from his cabinetmaker.


What started as a modified version of his "Fedele" 3-way monitor has now turned into the "Vigore"


Rick still needs to work out the crossover, but I can't wait to have them in my system!



Main System: Vizio P70 4K TV. Selah Vigore Speakers. KEF Q100 Rear L/R, Mirage BPS 400 LFE Sub. (2x)Rythmik FM8 Subs. Denon AVR-X4500H Receiver. Lyngdorf TDAI-3400 Integrated (2 channel). Oppo BDP-103. Zappiti Mini 4K HDR. GIK 242 Panels, Tri Traps, Monster Bass Trap. Various Vicoustic Desktop: Dynaudio BM6A mkII. Paradigm SUB10 w/ PBK. Cambridge DACMagic+ DAC. GIK 242 Panels, Monster Bass Trap Master Bedroom: Vizio M55 4K HDR. BG Radia In-Wall/Ceiling Speakers (5.2.2). NAD T758v3 Receiver

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Rick Craig from Selah Audio just sent me this picture of my finished cabinets with drivers mounted from his cabinetmaker.


What started as a modified version of his "Fedele" 3-way monitor has now turned into the "Vigore"


Rick still needs to work out the crossover, but I can't wait to have them in my system!


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Well, they finally arrived yesterday!!


I'll post more once I've had a little more time with them.


So far I've only listened to a few cuts from Norah Jones, Dire Straits and Pink Floyd on SACD, but they're already sounding great out of the box! Great image height, width and depth. Pinpoint imaging center fill as well. These things dig deep with authority for bookshelf speakers (huge ones)!! They seem play significantly lower with more authority than my Paradigm Studio 100v5's did, and they were large floorstanders with significantly more cone area.



They're a clear step up over my previous KEF LS50, and also a step up over my old Paradigm Studio 100v5.


I am getting a little bit of "boomyness" in the bass, despite my room treatments. This is placement and room related and that's what the miniDSP DDRC-22D is for. I haven't had a chance to take measurements yet, but I'll get around to it this weekend hopefully and create a couple custom curves with the miniDSP.



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Well, they finally arrived yesterday!!


I'll post more once I've had a little more time with them.


So far I've only listened to a few cuts from Norah Jones, Dire Straits and Pink Floyd on SACD, but they're already sounding great out of the box! Great image height, width and depth. Pinpoint imaging center fill as well. These things dig deep with authority for bookshelf speakers (huge ones)!! They seem play significantly lower with more authority than my Paradigm Studio 100v5's did, and they were large floorstanders with significantly more cone area.



They're a clear step up over my previous KEF LS50, and also a step up over my old Paradigm Studio 100v5.


I am getting a little bit of "boomyness" in the bass, despite my room treatments. This is placement and room related and that's what the miniDSP DDRC-22D is for. I haven't had a chance to take measurements yet, but I'll get around to it this weekend hopefully and create a couple custom curves with the miniDSP.






Great look in setup. Can i ask what type (brand) AV cabinet that is?

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Great look in setup. Can i ask what type (brand) AV cabinet that is?
Thanks!

It's not an audiophile unit by any means. I struggled to find a unit wide enough that could hold all of my gear without costing $2k+.

I eventually found this one on Wayfair.ca

Seems like it's probably built by an OEM. I've seen it under the Hokku Designs and Innovex brands, but it seems to be the same unit. 83" wide.
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Hey everyone,

Rick built a pair of "Ceramica" towers for me and I took delivery of them sometime last month. I have actually been in the process of moving into a new home, so I haven't been able to post my thoughts/impressions on the speakers, which they certainly deserve.

First, Rick is a class act to deal with and do business with, and I can't say enough good things about him or recommend him enough to anyone who is considering one of his builds. I had purchased a set of 4 "Tonos" from him previously for my father, and I knew I wanted him to make me my own set of speakers when I was ready.. Rick kept in touch with me throughout the process, he responded to e-mails promptly, answered probably a few dozen questions from me, and he stuck to the lead time he and I originally discussed.

Speakers: I previously owned almost entirely Ascend products, the Sierra Towers, Sierra Bookshelves 1 & 2, and I used the Horizons as mains for a while. Absolutely loved everything I owned from them, so I certainly cannot take anything away from them. Simply put, I asked Rick to make me something that could beat out any pair of speakers I ever had, and he most certainly delivered. I love the "airy" sound of ribbon tweeters, coupled with a nice neutral sound. Rick gave me just that, and put together a pair of speakers that exceeded my expectations. I've found myself listening to more music than I typically do, only because I really enjoy the Ceramicas that much. Two things I've noticed about them which have really stood out: First, they sound absolutely perfect without a subwoofer. Granted, having the sub on does make a difference, but they just don't need it.. They sound full, and certainly don't lack anywhere that leaves me wanting more. And secondly, the way it literally sounds as if the sound is coming directly from the center speaker, even though it is not utilized in stereo mode, has left me speechless. I haven't ever been able to really "localize" the sound from them, they just blend and image perfectly. I mostly use them for TV/HT in a now nearly 4500 cubic foot room, and again, I have nothing more to desire. The build quality is superb, I went with a very simple black finish which for me is exactly what I wanted. The speakers are very heavy, they have a great base which gives me peace of mind, and it is evident the speakers were very well built.

In fact, I loved them so much, I put a deposit last week for Rick to build me a center speaker with matching drivers for the Ceramicas, and I can't wait to integrate them into my system! I am not familiar with every "ID" brand out there, I've really only been loyal to one brand before Selah, but from the research I've done, I am not sure that at this price point, and the quality of speakers Rick is putting out, anything else can compete.

Thanks again Rick, looking forward to my center.

Mike
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Took delivery of the Ceramica Center earlier today, already loving it Sounds fantastic. Thank you Rick!
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I own a Denon 6500h. Do you think this would have enough power to drive a 5 speaker Cermica setup? I just don't know if the Denon can handle these speakers at 88 efficiency and 4 ohms. Thoughts?

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I own a Denon 6500h. Do you think this would have enough power to drive a 5 speaker Cermica setup? I just don't know if the Denon can handle these speakers at 88 efficiency and 4 ohms. Thoughts?

Depends on how loud you want it and at what distance. Usually most amps can run 4 ohm loads as long as you don’t turn them up to 11.

Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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Hey everyone,

Rick built a pair of "Ceramica" towers for me and I took delivery of them sometime last month. I have actually been in the process of moving into a new home, so I haven't been able to post my thoughts/impressions on the speakers, which they certainly deserve.

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Speakers: I previously owned almost entirely Ascend products, the Sierra Towers, Sierra Bookshelves 1 & 2, and I used the Horizons as mains for a while. Absolutely loved everything I owned from them, so I certainly cannot take anything away from them. Simply put, I asked Rick to make me something that could beat out any pair of speakers I ever had, and he most certainly delivered. I love the "airy" sound of ribbon tweeters, coupled with a nice neutral sound. Rick gave me just that, and put together a pair of speakers that exceeded my expectations. I've found myself listening to more music than I typically do, only because I really enjoy the Ceramicas that much. Two things I've noticed about them which have really stood out: First, they sound absolutely perfect without a subwoofer. Granted, having the sub on does make a difference, but they just don't need it.. They sound full, and certainly don't lack anywhere that leaves me wanting more. And secondly, the way it literally sounds as if the sound is coming directly from the center speaker, even though it is not utilized in stereo mode, has left me speechless. I haven't ever been able to really "localize" the sound from them, they just blend and image perfectly. I mostly use them for TV/HT in a now nearly 4500 cubic foot room, and again, I have nothing more to desire. The build quality is superb, I went with a very simple black finish which for me is exactly what I wanted. The speakers are very heavy, they have a great base which gives me peace of mind, and it is evident the speakers were very well built.

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Thanks again Rick, looking forward to my center.

Mike
Are those SB Acoustics ceramic drivers? That almost looks like a Revel F228Be with a RAAL tweeter
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Those are beautiful Rick!

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So is the main advantage of the Array set up sensitivity? What are the effects/improvements in horizontal dispersion? That is a lot of ribbon tweeters...

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As I understand it, for home use, a line array will have more consistent SPL throughout the listening area and result in greater direct sound from the system without as much reflective "interference" - resulting in greater clarity.

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What are the specs and how much lemonade do I need to sell to buy them?
I'm going to hazard a guess of at LEAST $20k a pair.

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What are the specs and how much lemonade do I need to sell to buy them?
It's a sealed box design for a custom theater using subwoofers. You can also use the in a 2-channel system without subs by adding equalization via the DSP crossover (these are bi-amped). Typically 100-400 watts per channel, 4-ohm impedance, and 94dB sensitivity. Keep in mind that they only lose 3dB per doubling of distance in the nearfield versus 6dB for a conventional speaker. I clocked one at 100db / 1M distance with the MiniDSP volume at -24.5dB using an amp rated at 200 watts into 4-ohms.

$14-$15K/pair shipped to the CUSA depending on the veneer / finish.
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Higher output capability / sensitivity, lower distortion, greater dynamics, and lower compression. Vertical directivity is more narrow with minimized floor and ceiling reflections plus a loss of 3dB per doubling of distance in the nearfield versus 6dB for a conventional design. Horizontal coverage is dependent on the drivers used and crossover point / slopes.
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The Omaggio array...

These look even better than the last ones!

Do they perform any better? And how much do they cost?

Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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These look even better than the last ones!

Do they perform any better? And how much do they cost?
$12,000/pair including shipping to the CUSA. This system doesn't have quite as much output but still packs a punch. It's difficult to compare the two designs as they are quite different. Feedback from the show will give you a better idea of what they can do.

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Here's the Iluminismo tower. It's massive!
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Here's the Iluminismo tower. It's massive!

Quite a speaker Rick. Got any pointers for someone who’d be interested in designing their own speaker from the ground up?

I’d like to build my own towers or line array in the near future, that’s why.

Leave it at 8 ohms and call it a day :)
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Damn!

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