Originally Posted by DonH50
To be clear, the sound from the Maggies was never like headphones, did not mean to imply that. There's a soundstage, but it is "all around", up close and personal. Sometimes I like that effect, sometimes not. As for "headphones", I was just speaking of the Salon2's physical presence and having them right by my head (sort-of). The MC-1's were on the walls and thin so did not have the physical impact of the Salon2s. I have not actually tried sitting closer with my Revels, guess I should do that at some point. Darn you, more experiments!
What is amazing is just how much the sound changes as you move from maybe eight to twelve feet away up to four to six feet. Someplace in there a sort of "transformation" occurs and you are "inside" the orchestra (band, guitar, cello, organ, whatever). Everybody should try sitting closer to their Maggies at some point to see what they think. Then you can work to get that effect, or similar at a more normal distance. Or just sit between them, or nearly so, a position I am now going to call "The Scott Position (TSP) (c)" in your honor.
"There's a soundstage, but it is "all around", up close and personal
I don't get that unless I'm sitting directly between them and then on certain recordings I will have objects in front and behind me so then the 'in the orchestra' feeling. Works the same by turning around and sit in the same spot facing the back of the room. I have actually blocked off the front wave entirely, and sitting where I normally sit I still have the sound stage and most of the perspective just from the back wave. I lose some of the sharpness and focus so the front direct wave is contributing. However, these radiate 30 degrees horizontally and I'm 70 - 80 degrees off axis so strange things running amok around here.
What I do get sitting where I normally sit is a 'live big band from the 3rd or 4th row' perspective with every instrument occupying its own distinct space on stage, but with the sound stage very wide just like viewing a live big band sitting in the 3rd or 4th row, but generally, no hole in the center, and objects near center realistically sized. That mean no vocalists with mouths two feet wide.
As I've said a number of times, this is where my grandfather like to sit (actually, more like 8 - 10th row) when he'd take me as a snot faced little loud mouth punk of the age of three starting in 1947. But still, an instrument in the back still sounded like it was a long ways away. So this is the perspective I was raised with and the perspective I try to recreate and mostly do after lots of effort getting there. And sure, all recordings are unique and some or many 'do it' and some don't, and a few are just spectacular.
I'm really really curious to get the LRSs here so I can start experimenting. At AXPONA in secret
room 544, I heard Wendell get his demo set to where I could hear some of the magic I'm looking for so I'll see if I can get them the rest of the way. I'll start them out exactly where the MLs are and noodle and nudge from there, and also do measurements on the fresh set.
"The Scott Position (TSP) (c)" in your honor.
Yes, yes, always proper posture on the toilet.