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I wonder who this guy is and how much does he charge to remake Magnepans like they were designed by Sonus Faber. Positively gorgeous.
I have no idea who it is, but I wish he/she would do up something for the LRSs
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when not jamming to lrs...Im in my office deciding on 10 different pair of headphones, tube or digital amp, audioengine speaks w/velodyne sub....which screens to watch not counting hdtv on wall.....and even what chair to sit in...got some nice powered recliners behind me. tell ya what...I love it when my audiophile padded door is sealed and shut. pardon my mess...Im ocd to be not clean.

should of turned on tubes to see them glow

I like it! But next time turn on the Tubes...please
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I wonder who this guy is and how much does he charge to remake Magnepans like they were designed by Sonus Faber. Positively gorgeous.

A work of art for sure! So...no credits or identity of the craftsman?

Apologies for using the gender...should be crafts person, artist or as Scotth3886 correctly said...he or she

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I have no idea who it is, but I wish he/she would do up something for the LRSs
Well, that guy is too far away (Europe). There is another guy in Malaysia, also far .
But this guy is here, in the states. As any artist, his list of what he DOESN'T work with is much longer than what he does. He charges approx 3 times the speakers cost for his labor alone (wood, parts, shipping excluded). Here are his terms.
Here is his past work, most of these models he doesn't mod anymore. If you ask me, his work isnt as exquisite as the SF guy from Europe. But his crossover mod work is OK.
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A work of art for sure! So...no credits or identity of the craftsman?

Apologies for using the gender...should be crafts person, artist or as Scotth3886 correctly said...he or she

Do you speak Polish?

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Do you speak Polish?

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No, but Google does an ok translation
Very interesting to see our AV neighbors across the pond posting.
Thanks for the Link.
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Well, that guy is too far away (Europe). There is another guy in Malaysia, also far .

Would you have the contact for the guy in Malaysia? Finally a Magnepan artist who resides closer to home.

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Would you have the contact for the guy in Malaysia? Finally a Magnepan artist who resides closer to home.

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That link is gone from the Hifi Audio Inn Singapore site. Sorry.

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That link is gone from the Hifi Audio Inn Singapore site. Sorry.
Just worked for me
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That link is gone from the site. Sorry.


Link works thanks. Can’t find any info on the Magnepan guy tho... hmmm


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Link works thanks. Can’t find any info on the Magnepan guy tho... hmmm


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The site URL works, but the link to the site that mods Magnepans is gone from that site, like I wrote.
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Those P.E. Banana Plugs lack the sprung portion that ensures snug fit and contact. They would probably still need a tightened allen screw to secure. Photo of my SVS 12 ga. cable with Bananas for LRSs have a snug fit. A light tug did not pull cable loose without any allen screw securing. Although I don't have a 115lb. Lab to contend with, so your situation may vary. Puppies love to play as your photo shows. Cute lil' bugger
Well, the SVS 12ga. speaker cables sound fine. Then...that nasty old upgrade bug bit me!

Now, upgrading to pair of BlueJeans 10ga. for Maggie LRS.
Chose white so I would avoid taking a "Trip", when lights are low.
Audiophile's journeys never end...do they??
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Louis and the LRS

Very much enjoying my brand new Maggies. Still a tad hesitant to push 'em like I did a couple of weeks ago, when Lou Reed at volume level 11 killed them fuses.

They are truly great rock and roll speakers, by the way, but any well recorded music will be enhanced. Take this renowned performance from 1959:

Louis literally stepped out in front of my speakers to deliver a three dimensional performance, unbelievable detail and nuance from both his voice and trumpet.





He was in the room, I swear. A 60 year old recording !!
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..not able to successfully embed on YouTube. Apparently my posting skills are also from 1959. Gotta hit the bar above the image. Or maybe this:

https://open.spotify.com/track/6qbXC...RFaKQZXt7KO8bQ

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Very much enjoying my brand new Maggies. Still a tad hesitant to push 'em like I did a couple of weeks ago, when Lou Reed at volume level 11 killed them fuses.

They are truly great rock and roll speakers, by the way, but any well recorded music will be enhanced. Take this renowned performance from 1959:

Louis literally stepped out in front of my speakers to deliver a three dimensional performance, unbelievable detail and nuance from both his voice and trumpet.

https://youtu.be/QzcpUdBw7gs

He was in the room, I swear. A 60 year old recording !!
Yeah, they didn't have Protools, 24 or 30 track recordings, or other ways to enhance, but generally just screw it all up so many old recordings are far better, more real, more transparent than anything new.
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..not able to successfully embed on YouTube. Apparently my posting skills are also from 1959. Gotta hit the bar above the image. Or maybe this:

https://open.spotify.com/track/6qbXC...RFaKQZXt7KO8bQ
No one can embed a YouTube vid here. You have to click the bar at the top or the 'YouTube' at the bottom right to go to YouTube to play the vid
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Hi All, I ordered some LRS 2-3 months ago. At that time they said 4-6 weeks and will call when ready. Anyone now how long people are waiting? Called today but sales!/orders out on vacation.
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Hi All, I ordered some LRS 2-3 months ago. At that time they said 4-6 weeks and will call when ready. Anyone now how long people are waiting? Called today but sales!/orders out on vacation.
someone commented be lucky if by xmas
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Wish they had told me that instead of 4-6 weeks. At least I would have an accurate ETA and know when to prepare for them. Xmas tree placement does not seem to be an issue this year!
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Wish they had told me that instead of 4-6 weeks. At least I would have an accurate ETA and know when to prepare for them. Xmas tree placement does not seem to be an issue this year!
I see Eric is still doing this. Better to tell the truth or maybe even slightly longer. I ordered mine as soon as I got home from AXPONA and was told 2-3 weeks and it took 7.
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I ordered mine like a week after scott and received a couple more weeks longer...Im sure they are swamped as these speakers amaze for classical/well recorded music.

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Wish they had told me that instead of 4-6 weeks. At least I would have an accurate ETA and know when to prepare for them. Xmas tree placement does not seem to be an issue this year!
That's assuming you've been a Good Boy
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Wish they had told me that instead of 4-6 weeks. At least I would have an accurate ETA and know when to prepare for them. Xmas tree placement does not seem to be an issue this year!
That was me, it was a joke. He told me about two months, especially as a lot of people were about to go on vacation. That was a few weeks ago.

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It is the apotheosis of idiocy to list a pair of speakers for sale and at the same time buy options to improve them. In the end you end up with the unsold speakers and the unsold improvement, which may or may not work.
This pertains to the absence of bass in my 3.5R's. I wonder if getting a pair of Magnepan DWM bass panels ($1,500/pair) will resolve or at least alleviate the situation? These will not be used in concert with the subs, only handling the midrange to bass crossover range (<200hz).
Some food for thought.
1) As I understand their construction (please correct me if I am as always wrong) , the bass panels are to be the first on the cable run from the power amp. They reproduce the bass section and send the upper range (MID+TREBLE) to the floorstanding Magnepans. So, the panels can be powered by the existing power amps, no need for an additional amp.
2) Each DWM panel is a stereo bass panel, meaning it has a separate diaphragm for L and R . A pair doubles the output.
3) Each panel can go down to 1ohm, robbing the mains of power
4) The added surface of even a pair of the DWM panel is less than the 3.5R's built in bass panel surface, which is approx 76%. Therefore , a pair of DWM will create less bass than the speakers, provided speakers' bass section is intact. If it is not, it is possible that the bass panels will be capable to simply take over and replace/recreate the bass section of the main speakers, meaning the 3.5R's crossover box will have no bass cable connected, only the MID+TREBLE.
Who has any experience with the bass panels? How much bass do they create? Are the assumptions about their connections correct?
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This diagram from Magnepan is not very encouraging. What it means is if you want to run BOTH a DWM panel and a pair of Magnepans together in full mode, without the DWM panel crossover you do need a beefier power amp to handle this configuration or better yet a separate power amp for the panel. About the circled portion. Magnepan defines the term "high current amplifier" rather loosely:

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If your amplifier doubles in power from 8 ohms to 4 ohmns (or nearly doubles), it is a high-current design.
This covers almost 90% of power amps, if you believe their specs. Yet larger Maggies (3.7 and up) are mostly demoed with at least 400W Brystons or Parasounds. What does this mean? Well, with the occasional 1ohm hits, the DWM's clearly warrant a much beefier amp than those larger Maggies. A pair of DWM - two of them! For Parasound those JC amps will set you back $6,000, for Brystons 7B - over $13,000.

If you believe Magnepan it is so easy to improve bass, just buy DWM panels, the more bass you need, the more panels you buy.
No, not so easy, as it turns out.
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This diagram from Magnepan is not very encouraging. What it means is if you want to run BOTH a DWM panel and a pair of Magnepans together in full mode, without the DWM panel crossover you do need a beefier power amp to handle this configuration or better yet a separate power amp for the panel. About the circled portion. Magnepan defines the term "high current amplifier" rather loosely:



This covers almost 90% of power amps, if you believe their specs. Yet larger Maggies (3.7 and up) are mostly demoed with at least 400W Brystons or Parasounds. What does this mean? Well, with the occasional 1ohm hits, the DWM's clearly warrant a much beefier amp than those larger Maggies. A pair of DWM - two of them! For Parasound those JC amps will set you back $6,000, for Brystons 7B - over $13,000.

If you believe Magnepan it is so easy to improve bass, just buy DWM panels, the more bass you need, the more panels you buy.
No, not so easy, as it turns out.
I have no experience with Magnepan(yet), but I would suggest a pair of these, instead. Or, at least familiarize yourself with the brand for next time you go subwoofer shopping.

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F18.html
Or, if big subs scare you:
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F15HP.html
For anyone thinking big subs are only for home theater, this guy actually started from the music end, and expanded to home theater later.

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I have no experience with Magnepan(yet), but I would suggest a pair of these, instead. Or, at least familiarize yourself with the brand for next time you go subwoofer shopping.

http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F18.html
Or, if big subs scare you:
http://www.rythmikaudio.com/F15HP.html
For anyone think big subs are only for home theater, this guy actually started from the music end, and expanded to home theater later.
Thanks, I've owned an F25 for a year or two. Better than most, not as good as REL.

The issue I am having is not with subs. God knows I have too many of those. I need Magnepan type mid/upper bass reinforcement. Not cone bass, Magnepan bass.

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When it comes to mid bass reinforcement, a Hsu MBM is a much better option. He stopped making them. Its main range was 200hz-100hz, but it went as low as 30hz.
Not a Magnepan type bass, but high enough to improve its mid bass

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Thanks, I've owned an F25 for a year or two. Better than most, not as good as REL.

The issue I am having is not with subs. God knows I have too many of those. I need Magnepan type mid/upper bass reinforcement. Not cone bass, Magnepan bass.
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Good idea, thanks, but the F8 STARTS its useful range at 100hz, I need a sub that would have that frequency as the lower, END number (i.e. 300hz-100hz), with everything below 100hz sharply attenuated.
As it stands, the F8 would compete with the two RELs and one Sunfire. Not gonna work
The HSU MBM did precisely that and cost 1/3d of the F8 (see the graph).
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