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The extended warranty is the only thing that might sway me to the X2200.

I've owned 2 Onkyo's in the past. They were fine but buggy. Hearing about Onkyo's recent HDMI issues has me squeamish. I'm partial to Audyssey too.

The X1200 supports 4:4:4, HDR, DTS:X upgrade, pretty much all I need. The Onkyo's at first glance, not so much. The only additional feature I'd like is 5.1.4 Atmos but that comes at too much of a cost premium at the moment.
Yeah, the x2200 doesn't look bad for what you are looking for. That extra power will come in handy especially if you like running at reference. Surprising that your receiver could handle reference levels. How long did you run music at reference when you tested the R55Ti's?

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Yeah, the x2200 doesn't look bad for what you are looking for. That extra power will come in handy especially if you like running at reference. Surprising that your receiver could handle reference levels. How long did you run music at reference when you tested the R55Ti's?

I've enjoyed my Denon X4100 so far.
I was powering the R55Ti's with the HK AVR-2600 which is supposedly spec'd at 65 watts. I had it at reference for only about a minute or so playing the Star Wars theme, it was driving my mother nuts while she was trying to watch TV in another room so I had to turn it down.

I wont be using them at reference since I'll be moving into a condo but it sure did sound nice.

The X4200 would be the worthwhile upgrade IMO for more useful features (5.1.4) but too pricey. In the end I'll just have to decide between the X1200 and X2200. No biggie.
In the future when 5.1.4 comes down in price I'll upgrade.

My only other concern is what to use for front Atmos speakers. Nothing out there really works aesthetically with these towers. I'm eyeing the ELAC A4 Atmos addons. They are priced right but not sure of their fit.

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I was powering the R55Ti's with the HK AVR-2600 which is supposedly spec'd at 65 watts. I had it at reference for only about a minute or so playing the Star Wars theme, it was driving my mother nuts while she was trying to watch TV in another room so I had to turn it down.

I wont be using them at reference since I'll be moving into a condo but it sure did sound nice.

The X4200 would be the worthwhile upgrade IMO for more useful features (5.1.4) but too pricey. In the end I'll just have to decide between the X1200 and X2200. No biggie.
In the future when 5.1.4 comes down in price I'll upgrade.

My only other concern is what to use for front Atmos speakers. Nothing out there really works aesthetically with these towers. I'm eyeing the ELAC A4 Atmos addons. They are priced right but not sure of their fit.
With such little Atmos content out currently, it's a good idea to hold off on that capable of a receiver. That also means I wouldn't invest in a basic Atmos receiver now, if you are planning to upgrade to another down the road. Seems like a decent amount of money would be wasted on the re-sale of a refurbished unit.

Atmos add-ons are over priced, to me personally. It seems like you are more-so paying for the Atmos technology, rather than the cost of a tiny speaker in a tiny box.

Add-ons are difficult because of their placement on top of current mains, and mounting speakers on/in the ceiling aren't exactly ideal either. Most people enjoy adding front heights, and even 5.1 systems (or more subs, you know). You could get atmos enabled speakers, but those are also expensive, and IMO, not worth the price because of the amount of content currently available. Cheaper atmos enabled speakers are well...CHEAP; they don't sound very well.

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With such little Atmos content out currently, it's a good idea to hold off on that capable of a receiver. That also means I wouldn't invest in a basic Atmos receiver now, if you are planning to upgrade to another down the road. Seems like a decent amount of money would be wasted on the re-sale of a refurbished unit.

Atmos add-ons are over priced, to me personally. It seems like you are more-so paying for the Atmos technology, rather than the cost of a tiny speaker in a tiny box.

Add-ons are difficult because of their placement on top of current mains, and mounting speakers on/in the ceiling aren't exactly ideal either. Most people enjoy adding front heights, and even 5.1 systems (or more subs, you know). You could get atmos enabled speakers, but those are also expensive, and IMO, not worth the price because of the amount of content currently available. Cheaper atmos enabled speakers are well...CHEAP; they don't sound very well.
You are absolutely correct that Atmos material is currently scarce and Atmos speakers are pricey. I'm not committed to Atmos speakers though I'm curious to try it out. I've been going back and forth in my mind as to whether i should even mess around with Atmos addons speakers at this time since it's not a top priority and I'm not thrilled with the limited options. Your points seem to reinforce that plus I just got these new RBH speakers so that curiosity should hopefully be at bay for a while.

It seems that lots of receivers that support advanced 4K related tech like HDCP 2.2 and HDR are often equiped with Atmos but I could be wrong. I'll be purchasing a Samsung 65JS8500 and viewing 4K quite a bit since I'll be streaming it and I personally shoot video in 4K too so the 4K features are a more important for me.

If there's a receiver that packs all the latest 4K goodies but lacks Atmos and is either a better deal or better quality then I'm open to that.

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My towers were delivered 2 days before Christmas. Don't know how Santa fit them in the sled.. As I posted previously, the packing was sensational. I am driving mine with 2 emotiva 250w monoblocks..The sound is amazing..The burl finish is beautiful to say the least..Receiver is Pioneer Elite VSX 03. Good luck to all the new owners of EMP Tek products..
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My towers were delivered 2 days before Christmas. Don't know how Santa fit them in the sled.. As I posted previously, the packing was sensational. I am driving mine with 2 emotiva 250w monoblocks..The sound is amazing..The burl finish is beautiful to say the least..Receiver is Pioneer Elite VSX 03. Good luck to all the new owners of EMP Tek products..
Would love you to post pics of those EMP Teks with emotive gear!

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My towers were delivered 2 days before Christmas. Don't know how Santa fit them in the sled.. As I posted previously, the packing was sensational. I am driving mine with 2 emotiva 250w monoblocks..The sound is amazing..The burl finish is beautiful to say the least..Receiver is Pioneer Elite VSX 03. Good luck to all the new owners of EMP Tek products..
Would love you to post pics of those EMP Teks with emotive gear!

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My towers were delivered 2 days before Christmas. Don't know how Santa fit them in the sled.. As I posted previously, the packing was sensational. I am driving mine with 2 emotiva 250w monoblocks..The sound is amazing..The burl finish is beautiful to say the least..Receiver is Pioneer Elite VSX 03. Good luck to all the new owners of EMP Tek products..
How are you liking the monoliths for the EMP's? I've got an XPA-5 powering my fronts, and have been very happy with it.
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I live in a condo and am looking to put together a nice 3.0 system for movies and music. A sub is out of the question since I don't want to piss my neighbors off, so I need something that has decent low end extension. Would the r55ti's fit the bill?
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I live in a condo and am looking to put together a nice 3.0 system for movies and music. A sub is out of the question since I don't want to piss my neighbors off, so I need something that has decent low end extension. Would the r55ti's fit the bill?
From my brief test of my R55Ti's they may be adequate without a sub. I guess it depends on how low of a crossover they can really handle cleanly. Maybe others with more use from them could add to that. You room size and personal preferences would play a big part too.

You may be able to still supplement them with a sub just turned down to an acceptable level so you don't completely miss out on the lower freq.

I'll be using them in a condo too so I'll be putting that theory to the test in a few weeks.
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It all depends upon what you are looking for. Almost all speakers need a good subwoofer — towers and bookshelf speakers alike, especially for movie LFE content. The R55Ti’s don’t have the deepest bass (rated at 40 Hz @ -3 dB). And when they try to perform near that level, it can sometimes sound a bit uncontrolled, even a tad muddy on occasion. Most of the time, and especially for music, they perform really well (although there were a few occasions that I noticed the deep bass not as solid as I prefer). They have a great midrange and their lower midrange and upper bass response is indeed very serious, which is great for pounding drums. For movies, they are top notch performers, provided you have a subwoofer and cross them over at 60 or 80 Hz.

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It all depends upon what you are looking for. Almost all speakers need a good subwoofer — towers and bookshelf speakers alike, especially for movie LFE content. The R55Ti’s don’t have the deepest bass (rated at 40 Hz @ -3 dB). And when they try to perform near that level, it can sometimes sound a bit uncontrolled, even a tad muddy on occasion. Most of the time, and especially for music, they perform really well (although there were a few occasions that I noticed the deep bass not as solid as I prefer). They have a great midrange and their lower midrange and upper bass response is indeed very serious, which is great for pounding drums. For movies, they are top notch performers, provided you have a subwoofer and cross them over at 60 or 80 Hz.
So I've been meaning to ask, what should the R55Ti be crossover at, 60 or 80Hz when used with a sub?
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Experiment on crossover and see what your ears prefer. May depend on which sub you get and also what audio source you are utilizing


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So I've been meaning to ask, what should the R55Ti be crossover at, 60 or 80Hz when used with a sub?
The R55Ti is certainly capable of hitting below 60 hz...but I figure the subwoofer is better at that freq (60-80). I would cross at 80 hz, but as yanks suggested, try both and see what YOUR ears prefer!

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So I've been meaning to ask, what should the R55Ti be crossover at, 60 or 80Hz when used with a sub?
Although it would ultimately be what you prefer, a couple other factors come into play.

I know it's only 20hz difference, but the lower the crossover, the more power is needed from your receiver. A less powerful receiver might really thank you if you use a higher crossover, especially for louder listening volumes. You will receive less distortion from the speakers and a little more tactical feedback from the sub. With my dual subs, I notice no localization with 80hz crossovers all the way around.

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So I've been meaning to ask, what should the R55Ti be crossover at, 60 or 80Hz when used with a sub?
I would lean towards 80hz. Remember that with crossover it's not a brick wall where above the crossover frequency it's completely the speakers and below it it is completely the sub. Rather crossover is going to be gradual. Considering that the EMP towers do start to struggle around 50hz I would generally advise using the higher crossover.

If you have REW and a way to measure that is always going to be your best bet.

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I live in a condo and am looking to put together a nice 3.0 system for movies and music. A sub is out of the question since I don't want to piss my neighbors off, so I need something that has decent low end extension. Would the r55ti's fit the bill?
yes, I agree with what others have said here. for HT, you need a sub and just use restraint. r55ti won't hit as low as some towers, but they hit it pretty accurately and almost all towers, and all towers in this price range will benefit from a subwoofer!

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So I've been meaning to ask, what should the R55Ti be crossover at, 60 or 80Hz when used with a sub?
All the answers are on the money. It does depend upon the capabilities of your subwoofer and its location, as well as your AVR. One just has to experiment to find what works best for what (music or movies or a happy medium). There are no hard/fast rules, because each room is different and each person’s taste is different. I also have a bit more experimenting to do myself with the R55Ti’s (I’m not convinced I’m there yet).

For instance, I have my Maggies crossed over at 40 Hz (its for music only). This took me several months of critical listening to get there and using different octave slopes for the high pass and low pass filters on my sub. But I drive the Maggies with a powerful amplifier and I wanted the bass panels of the speaker to provide most of the bass, leaving the sub to pick up where the Maggies left off (they can reach around 34 Hz @ -3 dB). This is quite different from most people, but works very well in my case. I found out that the Maggies provide a unique bass signature that I love and didn’t want to lose. A higher crossover began to take away from that goal.

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The R55Ti is certainly capable of hitting below 60 hz...but I figure the subwoofer is better at that freq (60-80). I would cross at 80 hz, but as yanks suggested, try both and see what YOUR ears prefer!
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Although it would ultimately be what you prefer, a couple other factors come into play.

I know it's only 20hz difference, but the lower the crossover, the more power is needed from your receiver. A less powerful receiver might really thank you if you use a higher crossover, especially for louder listening volumes. You will receive less distortion from the speakers and a little more tactical feedback from the sub. With my dual subs, I notice no localization with 80hz crossovers all the way around.
I had the same thoughts. Since I'll be in a condo, loud volumes unfortunately wont be possible. I wont really know how high of a volume I'll be able to get to without annoying the neighbors until I've tried a bit. The good thing is that the tenant on the right are my grandparents and the unit to my left are seasonal tenants and usually not there.

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I would lean towards 80hz. Remember that with crossover it's not a brick wall where above the crossover frequency it's completely the speakers and below it it is completely the sub. Rather crossover is going to be gradual. Considering that the EMP towers do start to struggle around 50hz I would generally advise using the higher crossover.

If you have REW and a way to measure that is always going to be your best bet.
I don't have a REW tool but I'll start out with 80Hz to play it safe.

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All the answers are on the money. It does depend upon the capabilities of your subwoofer and its location, as well as your AVR. One just has to experiment to find what works best for what (music or movies or a happy medium). There are no hard/fast rules, because each room is different and each person’s taste is different. I also have a bit more experimenting to do myself with the R55Ti’s (I’m not convinced I’m there yet).

For instance, I have my Maggies crossed over at 40 Hz (its for music only). This took me several months of critical listening to get there and using different octave slopes for the high pass and low pass filters on my sub. But I drive the Maggies with a powerful amplifier and I wanted the bass panels of the speaker to provide most of the bass, leaving the sub to pick up where the Maggies left off (they can reach around 34 Hz @ -3 dB). This is quite different from most people, but works very well in my case. I found out that the Maggies provide a unique bass signature that I love and didn’t want to lose. A higher crossover began to take away from that goal.
I guess I'll just have to experiment myself. I'll start off at 80Hz then adjust from there. If I were doing high volumes I'd likely stick with that but a lower crossover at lower volumes may turn out good.

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Getting your HT set up sounding great is like writing a paper...you can always keep editing, revising edit, revise...at some point you may say "not perfect, but damn good" and stop or if you are a true perfectionist, you will keep revising!
I plan to start doing some room treatments this winter, but not till after this darn Rose Bowl game is played!

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Treatments are some of the best investments I've made. Put a couple panels behind the LP and to the left and right of the L and R speakers. Listen to some 2-channel music for a while. Then turn on the center and listen to those same songs. Difference was pretty unbelievable.

My setup is more like the constitution, always changing things!

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Room treatments are a huge upgrade. I had big doubts before I put mine in, but it really did help my sound tremendously. I've got 15 GIK panels in my room right now with plans of adding another 4 sometime in the near future. The panels combined with proper placement and Audyssey XT32 has my system +/-3db down to about 14hz.

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There is only DIY for me, so I will be seeking some advice in the near future!

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I currently have my towers set at 60Hz, and center at 80Hz. I have found this to work best in my room, but as others have mentioned, it varies based on room acoustics and user preferences.

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Well I got Edge of Tomorrow and Interstellar for Christmas, so those are next on the list to watch with the new sub!
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I currently have my towers set at 60Hz, and center at 80Hz. I have found this to work best in my room, but as others have mentioned, it varies based on room acoustics and user preferences.
I completely forgot about my R56Ci. So you set yours to 80Hz. Interesting.
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I completely forgot about my R56Ci. So you set yours to 80Hz. Interesting.
Audyssey sets it at 80Hz, which is the lowest it deems acceptable. I have not experimented with lowering the center, but having the fronts at 60Hz gives me a bit more impact up front.
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Well I got Edge of Tomorrow and Interstellar for Christmas, so those are next on the list to watch with the new sub!
Both of those are torture tests on a sub. The opening scene of Edge of Tomorrow has caused the premature death of more then one sub around here.
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Both of those are torture tests on a sub. The opening scene of Edge of Tomorrow has caused the premature death of more then one sub around here.
Ditto what Allen says...I would set the AV rec to no less than -20 db to start EoT (at -15, my foundation rattles)...and when he say open scene, it is 30 seconds in before most of the premovie credits! Intrastellar, well, the heavy stuff comes later in the movie!
I didn't care much for Intrastellar, but some really great LFE in that movie...EoT, great soundtrack, great movie (all IMHO, of course)!

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Both of those are torture tests on a sub. The opening scene of Edge of Tomorrow has caused the premature death of more then one sub around here.
Yeah I have seen both, but only with my old F-12, I will definitely tread carefully.

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Ditto what Allen says...I would set the AV rec to no less than -20 db to start EoT (at -15, my foundation rattles)...and when he say open scene, it is 30 seconds in before most of the premovie credits! Intrastellar, well, the heavy stuff comes later in the movie!
I didn't care much for Intrastellar, but some really great LFE in that movie...EoT, great soundtrack, great movie (all IMHO, of course)!
I usually listen at -10dB, so it's a good thing you mention that I have seen EoT several times, when it was on HBO, but before the new sub and streaming is never as good. Should be a good chance to see what that Ultra can do

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