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ordered a full JTR system !!

3 x 228HT front
2 x 8HT for back will be installed in the column
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2 x Captivator 2400 in front under screen

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I am now missing the atmos speakers. What would you suggest that pairs nicely with My new JTR system?????




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Volt 8’s from DIY Sound Group.

Could also use the 6’s or 10’s.
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I am now missing the atmos speakers. What would you suggest that pairs nicely with My new JTR system?????

It sure would be a pity to corrupt the purity of that system with a non-JTR brand


I'm running a pair of ceiling mounted Single 8HT-LP as top fronts in a 5.1.2 system at the moment. I've been trying to buy 2x Slant 8HT-LP for 5.1.4 but Jeff is being very cagey in his replies - so it's either out of stock or discontinued (I really hope not).


Edit: Jeff got back to me and the Slant 8 LP's are two weeks out. Feeling relieved.
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For my atmos dilemma goes on.....

I have 2 rows of seating And still have no clue how to place them for best possible results.

Btw ignore the column speakers they are all going to be JTR 8hts









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I am now missing the atmos speakers. What would you suggest that pairs nicely with My new JTR system?????
I wanted in-ceiling, so I went with 4 x JBL Control 328C. I like them, but don't really have anything to compare to. They hold their own vs the JTRs in my system.
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A member in another forum wanted recommendation for bookshelf speakers playing sweet female voices that is slightly nasal. I made the following recording with the Noesis 212HTs:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WT...yoPg2rJ2emYaN5

AVR in Pure Direct, full range with Audy and subwoofer off. Digital recorder was 4ft from the speakers.
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I wanted in-ceiling, so I went with 4 x JBL Control 328C. I like them, but don't really have anything to compare to. They hold their own vs the JTRs in my system.


I wouldve like in ceiling unfortunately i cant. I dont want to risk sound and LF going to the flor above.

This is why i was looking for onwall speakers ...


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Anyone running 3 Single 8HT’s across the front as LCR’s? Just curious what an entire system of 8HT’s would sound like with 2 cap 2400’s.

Original thought was 3 212HTR’s across front and 2 8HT’s as side surrounds with the 2 cap 2400’s. Obviously, 5 8HT’s would be significantly cheaper!

Their going in a 20 x 25 finished room over the garage, seating 12’ away from projector screen.

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Anyone running 3 Single 8HT’s across the front as LCR’s? Just curious what an entire system of 8HT’s would sound like with 2 cap 2400’s.

Original thought was 3 212HTR’s across front and 2 8HT’s as side surrounds with the 2 cap 2400’s. Obviously, 5 8HT’s would be significantly cheaper!

Their going in a 20 x 25 finished room over the garage, seating 12’ away from projector screen.

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That will sound great - although the HTR’s will will be on another level, sound wise and price wise.
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Anyone running 3 Single 8HT’s across the front as LCR’s? Just curious what an entire system of 8HT’s would sound like with 2 cap 2400’s.

Original thought was 3 212HTR’s across front and 2 8HT’s as side surrounds with the 2 cap 2400’s. Obviously, 5 8HT’s would be significantly cheaper!

Their going in a 20 x 25 finished room over the garage, seating 12’ away from projector screen.
I've been using two Single 8HT's with a Cap 1400 in the living room as a 2.1 stereo and utilizing them as my LF and LR speakers in 5.1 setup sitting approximately 12' away from my screen. I've been super busy with work and family so I haven't had a great chance to really sit down and listen as intently as I would like but thus far I'm very impressed. For one, they really crank! They have excellent clarity and sound great to my ears.

I'm hoping to have some additional time this weekend to compare and contrast them to my Salk setup I've had for a few years before they go to their new home.

I'm expecting the other three JTR HT speakers I ordered to ship tomorrow and hope to have a setup similar to what you're talking about. Central NY is a bit too far for an audition but I'll be sure to post my impressions if that's helpful.

After my short time living with them I think you could easily run a great sounding 5 Ch. system on just the 8HT's and a subwoofer or two. In fact, that's exactly what Jeff recommended after I told him about wanting to change up my living room setup.
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I wanted in-ceiling, so I went with 4 x JBL Control 328C. I like them, but don't really have anything to compare to. They hold their own vs the JTRs in my system.

I've been planning on getting 4x RSL C34E in-ceiling speakers for ATMOS for a long time now since they are very reasonably priced and have great reviews. However now that you've linked these JBL Control 328C, it definitely sounds like they would be a better match for JTRs.. I'm curious if you ended up buying the Backbox for them (JBL MTC-300BB8) and if you thought it was a worthwhile investment as it brings up the cost.

Ideally I'd love to have JTR in-ceiling for ATMOS as my wife would not allow S8-LPs just hanging on the ceiling but from talking with Jeff a couple years back I don't think it's gonna happen.

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I've been planning on getting 4x RSL C34E in-ceiling speakers for ATMOS for a long time now since they are very reasonably priced and have great reviews. However now that you've linked these JBL Control 328C, it definitely sounds like they would be a better match for JTRs.. I'm curious if you ended up buying the Backbox for them (JBL MTC-300BB8) and if you thought it was a worthwhile investment as it brings up the cost.

Ideally I'd love to have JTR in-ceiling for ATMOS as my wife would not allow S8-LPs just hanging on the ceiling but from talking with Jeff a couple years back I don't think it's gonna happen.
No, I didn't go with the JBL backer boxes. As this was a new theater build from the ground up, I built my own soundproof backer boxes.

I was in the same boat as you. I looked at the RSLs but wanted something more in line with my JTRs. I actually built my backer boxes big enough to accommodate S8s (with some slight modification) if I ever wanted to change, but that'll never happen now. The JBLs are great.
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I've been using two Single 8HT's with a Cap 1400 in the living room as a 2.1 stereo and utilizing them as my LF and LR speakers in 5.1 setup sitting approximately 12' away from my screen. I've been super busy with work and family so I haven't had a great chance to really sit down and listen as intently as I would like but thus far I'm very impressed. For one, they really crank! They have excellent clarity and sound great to my ears.

I'm hoping to have some additional time this weekend to compare and contrast them to my Salk setup I've had for a few years before they go to their new home.

I'm expecting the other three JTR HT speakers I ordered to ship tomorrow and hope to have a setup similar to what you're talking about. Central NY is a bit too far for an audition but I'll be sure to post my impressions if that's helpful.

After my short time living with them I think you could easily run a great sounding 5 Ch. system on just the 8HT's and a subwoofer or two. In fact, that's exactly what Jeff recommended after I told him about wanting to change up my living room setup.
Yes, I’d love to hear your impressions. I guess I’m stuck on the idea that if you’re going to crossover the speakers at 80hz, it would seem like the 212htr’s would be overkill. I understand if you want to listen to music full-range without using a sub, but that’s just not what this room is going to be.

At the same time however; I’ve waited years to be able to do this, so I want to do it right the first time. I love the way the room has turned out, and now I want to make sure the sound matches!
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Yes, I’d love to hear your impressions. I guess I’m stuck on the idea that if you’re going to crossover the speakers at 80hz, it would seem like the 212htr’s would be overkill. I understand if you want to listen to music full-range without using a sub, but that’s just not what this room is going to be.

At the same time however; I’ve waited years to be able to do this, so I want to do it right the first time. I love the way the room has turned out, and now I want to make sure the sound matches!
The 212HTR's have a much better compression driver and the horn helps with directivity over the coaxial design which is better suited for surround duty with a wider pattern. You also want whatever speaker you are running to be capable of flat response at least one full octave below where you plan to cross them. It MAY turn out in your room too that a lower than 80hz XO point is better. In mine, it is actually 100hz, but in yours it very well could be 60... I would HIGHLY suggest going the 212HTR route for mains.

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The 212HTR's have a much better compression driver and the horn helps with directivity over the coaxial design which is better suited for surround duty with a wider pattern. You also want whatever speaker you are running to be capable of flat response at least one full octave below where you plan to cross them. It MAY turn out in your room too that a lower than 80hz XO point is better. In mine, it is actually 100hz, but in yours it very well could be 60... I would HIGHLY suggest going the 212HTR route for mains.
That’s really good advice, thank you. I was concerned about the dispersion pattern of the 8ht’s. Hard leaning toward the 212HTR’s.
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Just got back from AXPONA....and JTR had an awesome setup! The 8 Caps were intimidating (liked the carbon fiber center cap)...Jeff and Michael were gracious enough to open it up a bit...LOL, the guy in front of me immediately jumped and placed his hands over his ears (Wick bar scene)...just visceral.

The JVC projector was amazing. Jeff's brother had a booth as well dedicated to collectibles...very cool stuff.
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Hey guys, long time no talk. I'm building a home with a dedicated room and looking for advice. I'm hoping you can give me your opinions on what will make a great JTR room for all media: movies, music, TV, etc. The room dimensions are 15'-5" wide by 16'-1" with 9' ceilings. I know it's rather square shaped, but it's what i can make fit. I'll plan treat the walls as needed. I'm planning for 7.2.4. My first thought is to go 228 HTR across the front as LCR. Then fill out all the other positions with some variety of Jeff's 8" speakers. I'm honestly not sure which is best suited for which spots. Would love some ideas including other mains options, subs to go with it, and really any advice. Is it all just overkill for a room of this size?

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I was concerned about the dispersion pattern of the 8ht’s. Hard leaning toward the 212HTR’s.
I haven't received my front three speakers yet. The two 8HTs I currently have are 12' feet apart and I'm sitting at roughly the same distance. They sound great in stereo paired with my Cap 1400.

I have not heard JTR's other speaker offerings, and I don't know how they compare to the 8HT, but these sound great to me and I notice no issues with any sort of dispersion pattern. I'd be willing to bet they'll blow away the majority of commercially sold speakers and most people would be shocked by their output and clarity.

Obviously the 228, 210, 212, etc. exist for a reason and I'm sure they sound amazing! However, I'm not sure where diminishing returns kicks in. For a small form factor, and more budget friendly option, the 8HT's do a great job.

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The stuff I said before
Heeey! talking to myself now I convinced myself to go 9.2.4 atmos set-up with 210 RTs for added extension over the 228HTRs as LR . Maybe a 210 RM on its side below the screen as center channel so as not to give up real estate putting something behind the screen. Single 8HT-LPs as on-wall surrounds in all 6 positions. 2 Cap S1 or S2 along the front.

Presumably you could melt someone sitting in the single row of seats with even a receiver amp, but i'm looking towards Cherry Amps or D-sonic. Leaning towards Revel C763L as overheads.

I guess the overkill for the room size is kind of the JTR fanatics thing! But feel free to tell me it's crazy or what to do differently. Thanks!
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What is the center to center spacing of the binding posts? What is the recommended connector to use? Look like they are not able to accept banana jacks.

Have seven 210RM's due last week of May so time to start cabling.
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What is the center to center spacing of the binding posts? What is the recommended connector to use? Look like they are not able to accept banana jacks.

Have seven 210RM's due last week of May so time to start cabling.
No connector needed, just twist the bare ware and insert into binding post and screw down.

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What is the center to center spacing of the binding posts? What is the recommended connector to use? Look like they are not able to accept banana jacks.

Have seven 210RM's due last week of May so time to start cabling.
The center to center spacing is 2 3/8". The binding posts accept single banana jacks just fine. I use bare wire at the speakers, though. I used these at AXPONA because it was easier to connect to the amps: Ethereal WBAN

I have a pair of 210RT's and (5) 215RM's. You are going to love your new speakers.
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I guess the overkill for the room size is kind of the JTR fanatics thing! But feel free to tell me it's crazy or what to do differently. Thanks!

It crazy. Feel better? Nobody will judge you for overkill here, so enjoy!





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That is not even that crazy...

How about 212RT's for the least used speakers for an audio system. (Wides) LOL




At least you will almost always get audio out of your 212HT surrounds in modern movies!

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I am thinking of doing an Jtr setup with 212rt's for lcr and would be be crazy to use 228ht's for surrounds?

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I am thinking of doing an Jtr setup with 212rt's for lcr and would be be crazy to use 228ht's for surrounds?


Not crazy, to seek incredible headroom IMO for a short fun demo. That setup would allow for such and match your mainspeakers well for tonality. One of the best cinema setups I ever heard (and loudest/most capable for mains) was a setup made of 212HT for fronts, and 228HT for surrounds. We made this temp setup at a g2g at @dlbeck s a few years back. Each speaker had a monoblock cherry amp on duty. IIRC @desertdome took the system up to +17.5 on the Gatling gun clip from Book of Eli. The surround field was absolutely incredible. The 228HT could put the coals to that clip on surround duty! No breakup at levels SPL levels that seemed to rival real life! It was an incredible combo IMO!
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My 2019 Axpona thoughts on the JTR room.

JTR Speakers room was strong, and I spent a few hours in it over the course of the weekend. Nice Atmos ceiling coverage with the 9.8.6 system. The Unbroken clip was potentially my favorite. In the big space of their demo room, the fighter plane flying around the the room sounded so realistic you wanted to turn your head to see if it was real! Excellent!

When explosions happened you felt air move past your leg and flutter your pants -- compliments of the eight 2400ULF subwoofers lined up left to right under the screen. Fun! And adds significantly to the immersion factor!

There were four surround sound systems at Axpona this year (that I heard). Focal, SVS, Emotiva, and JTR. The JTR system was head and shoulders above the other three. Truly!

JTR hosted a Friday night mingle which was fun, and I got to meet a few of the forum regulars, who I hadn't met before. Thanks Jeff for buying the food and drinks! Good local Chicago pizza and Italian beef sandwiches. It’s nice that Jeff is still really active in the avsforum community, and it was fun catching up with you all on Friday.
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(13) JBL CBT 70j-1 | Denon x7200wa | Sherbourn PA 7-350 amplifier | (8) Ultimax 18" sealed subwoofers | (4) iNuke DSP 6000 amplifiers | Panasonic PT-AE8000U projector | Jamestown 144" AT 2.35:1 screen w/ Seymour XD fabric
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I wanted in-ceiling, so I went with 4 x JBL Control 328C. I like them, but don't really have anything to compare to. They hold their own vs the JTRs in my system.
I also have 4 328Cs in-ceiling with my JTR system. They work great. Sensitivity is similar and they calibrate close to the Single 8s.

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I was able to hang out in the awesome JTR room at Axpona last weekend also. I have a small room with low ceilings, so it's exciting to have the opportunity to witness the firepower Jeff brought to the big room at this event. I never counted the chairs in the room - 30, 40? There wasn't a bad seat in there. I think I've heard just about everything from the JTR lineup aside from the Growler, but this was my first meeting with the 212rt and the new 2400ulf, both impressive as I expected. I'm just echoing previous comments here, but the wall of ULF was killer and the surround bubble was huge and seamless. I am so impressed that you could hear and feel the bass in a room that big with probably 20' ceilings. We were there the first night so we didn't even get to hear the thing calibrated which was a bummer, but the sound was great and the light cannon DD brought in to demo was pretty cool too. I wish I had the chance to hear the 212rt with some 2 channel content, but this was one of the busiest rooms at the show and even the after hours pizza party and movie night had more people than anticipated. Go figure!

Great job putting the show together guys - I know it was a ton of work. I hope we get the chance to throw back a beer or 10 this summer Jeff!


We also visited the other JTR unofficial demo room at SOWK's place. Holy smokes! You know how to set up a room man. The sound, the PJ, the aesthetics in the room - this man even uses high-dollar cable risers to isolate his air-conditioner drain from the floor! (I'm not joking ). I have seen the photos of this room here and there and have always thought about how this old man is so detailed and everything looks so perfect, and wondered if he was just really good at photography. Archaea and I assumed that he has time to do this because is an elderly retired guy, but no, it really is that tidy and awesome in person and he is, in fact, younger than I and not retired. He also enjoyed making "old guy" jokes at my expense, which were all super hilarious. Thank you for worrying about me breaking a hip so much. I left you an Easter Egg though, some people call it an Upper Decker. Thanks for having us over Tony, your HT is amazing and your skills in the build and calibration are A/V super hero level.
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