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Totally random thoughts here (oh no!) but you guys are the best ears I would trust and valued opinions are many around here. The other day I was using a little beard trimmer I usually never had but a couple times due to my main one dying. Anyway I noticed it sounded quite different between each ear. My right sounded generally normal and I only became aware when I went to my left side the higher (very high airy type frequencies) were much more pronounced. Almost too loud on the left side. It just got me thinking about the way we hear and how subjective we are from one individual to another let alone one ear to the other on the same head lol!
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Totally random thoughts here (oh no!) but you guys are the best ears I would trust and valued opinions are many around here. The other day I was using a little beard trimmer I usually never had but a couple times due to my main one dying. Anyway I noticed it sounded quite different between each ear. My right sounded generally normal and I only became aware when I went to my left side the higher (very high airy type frequencies) were much more pronounced. Almost too loud on the left side. It just got me thinking about the way we hear and how subjective we are from one individual to another let alone one ear to the other on the same head lol!
I wonder if one of your ears is stopped up.
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Hardware always needs to precede media. Nobody's going to put Ultra HD (UHD) Blu-ray's on shelves without the capability to play them. I believe Netflix's 4K content is 10-bit.



How many 4K TV's and projectors are 10-bit?



On Blu-rays on my HTPC, the chroma is upscaled using a 16-bit buffer and then reduced back down to 8-bit for final output at 1080p. Any upscaling is also done in 16-bit. With a 10-bit output, now many users can take better advantage of their 10-bit 4K display devices when upscaling to 4K. This has the benefit of less color banding and wider color gamut.

There have been 10 bit capable monitors and tv's for a while now, they just cost more than what most consumers are willing to spend. That and, the lack of 10 bit sources.
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So when I was at CEDIA 2013 in Denver....this caught my eye. It was the Pro Audio Technology booth.



And I headed in for a listen... they were playing Thriller from This is It. They said they were averaging 105 dbs for the demo. I know Archaea likes that for demo material as well. The funny thing is that most coming out of the the booth said it was way too loud. I was jiggling like a school girl. It had me thinking I wanted 15s behind my screen. I knew I wasn't going to get a couple of 24s in my room like this tho....



Where am I going with this? I'm expecting Jeff to email me shipping info next week on the LCR 215RMs that I ordered. He said he was finishing up some changes to the crossover for the new CD.

Wow Randy, that looks incredible!! Funny that you were surrounded by light weights.
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You guys are in a slump.

Two things to report, Jeff says my LR 212HTs ship Tuesday, and the S2 for sale in Houston is tempting but has bad timing....

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You guys are in a slump.

Two things to report, Jeff says my LR 212HTs ship Tuesday, and the S2 for sale in Houston is tempting but has bad timing....
Congrats on your212's, let us know your thoughts and (of course) share some pics. What are you going to do with your 228's....surrounds?

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You guys are in a slump.

Two things to report, Jeff says my LR 212HTs ship Tuesday, and the S2 for sale in Houston is tempting but has bad timing....
I can't wait to hear your impressions. I eventually want to go go with 7 or maybe even 9 speakers. If I did that I would consider some 212s and use my 228s as surrounds. Not sure yet buy its a thought

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Congrats on your212's, let us know your thoughts and (of course) share some pics. What are you going to do with your 228's....surrounds?
Yes. And I will continue to use my 228 center. Hoping it will blend well for multichannel music and movies.

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Sounds good. I would have gone with 228 as surrounds if my room was wider but instead I went with Slanted 8's and I love them. Guess it all works out.

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Some guest's kid decided to go into the 'warned-this-room-is-restricted' HT room...and decided to push in the black little bubble-dust cover on one of my S8's. Caught him just in time before he did the same to the other speakers. I'm going to start locking the room.

I tried a vacuum to try to gently recover the the bubble dome...no luck. Ideas?
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Some guest's kid decided to go into the 'warned-this-room-is-restricted' HT room...and decided to push in the black little bubble-dust cover on one of my S8's. Caught him just in time before he did the same to the other speakers. I'm going to start locking the room.

I tried a vacuum to try to gently recover the the bubble dome...no luck. Ideas?
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Some guest's kid decided to go into the 'warned-this-room-is-restricted' HT room...and decided to push in the black little bubble-dust cover on one of my S8's. Caught him just in time before he did the same to the other speakers. I'm going to start locking the room.

I tried a vacuum to try to gently recover the the bubble dome...no luck. Ideas?

That stinks...sorry to hear that Call Jeff, I wonder if they can be replaced (not sure if would require a whole new compression driver or if it just sort of fits into place to an existing compression driver)?
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Some guest's kid decided to go into the 'warned-this-room-is-restricted' HT room...and decided to push in the black little bubble-dust cover on one of my S8's. Caught him just in time before he did the same to the other speakers. I'm going to start locking the room.

I tried a vacuum to try to gently recover the the bubble dome...no luck. Ideas?
That is a drag and some extra sticky tape might pull it out. It's really a cosmetic issue so even if it doesn't come all the way out stop worrying ... or if you are OCD, call Jeff and see what he suggests. All the more reason to mount them high up on the walls/ceiling.

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Just wondering what you guys think about using the Klipsch CDT-5650-C II as atmos speakers with the 228's and slant 8's. Thanks!

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Some guest's kid decided to go into the 'warned-this-room-is-restricted' HT room...and decided to push in the black little bubble-dust cover on one of my S8's. Caught him just in time before he did the same to the other speakers. I'm going to start locking the room.

I tried a vacuum to try to gently recover the the bubble dome...no luck. Ideas?
Damn.. Sorry to hear that bro. That really sucks. Especially since that's not your own kid.
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I tried a vacuum to try to gently recover the the bubble dome...no luck. Ideas?
Use a thick plastic tube, like a vacuum attachment, and suck it out with your mouth. Don't actually use a vacuum. You can actually create much more suction with your mouth, and you are much less likely to damage the driver.

You might want to do this after you install the lock, to make sure nobody takes a picture.

You could also buy a new driver.

As others have said, it may not affect the sound, depending on how obsessive you are. (This sort of thing makes me insane.)

EDIT: I just realized this was a coax driver, not a normal dust cover. I bet you could hook it out with a needle, if duct tape doesn't work.

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That is a drag and some extra sticky tape might pull it out. It's really a cosmetic issue so even if it doesn't come all the way out stop worrying ... or if you are OCD, call Jeff and see what he suggests. All the more reason to mount them high up on the walls/ceiling.
Agreed...functioning just perfectly and I've got the speaker cover on top anyway....just annoyed it's there. Ironic thing...I was planning to mount yesterday already before the gtg...and the poking kid came just days before.
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Damn.. Sorry to hear that bro. That really sucks. Especially since that's not your own kid.
I was tempted to tell the parent to replace it...but, it is just a dust cap. But then again, that's like putting a scratch on my weekend sports car. I'll just vent in my own way by being passive aggressive to them now
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Use a thick plastic tube, like a vacuum attachment, and suck it out with your mouth. Don't actually use a vacuum. You can actually create much more suction with your mouth, and you are much less likely to damage the driver.

You might want to do this after you install the lock, to make sure nobody takes a picture.

You could also buy a new driver.

As others have said, it may not affect the sound, depending on how obsessive you are. (This sort of thing makes me insane.)

EDIT: I just realized this was a coax driver, not a normal dust cover. I bet you could hook it out with a needle, if duct tape doesn't work.
Well, because the dust cap is a weave/net of fabric, air just passes thru...so air won't grab it...not the normal paper dust cap which would be solid. I also tried painter's tap and it won't grab...the dust cap is pretty rigid it seems...not as soft as I thought.
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Well, because the dust cap is a weave/net of fabric, air just passes thru...so air won't grab it...not the normal paper dust cap which would be solid. I also tried painter's tap and it won't grab...the dust cap is pretty rigid it seems...not as soft as I thought.
Perhaps a safety pin?
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Perhaps a safety pin?
Or take the driver out, disconnect/remove the CD and push it out from the inside.
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Perhaps a safety pin?
Yeah that's next...installed some inwalls in the past and they came with some needle thin hooks to take grill off....
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Or take the driver out, disconnect/remove the CD and push it out from the inside.
Oooo...that's a better idea!
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Oooo...that's a better idea!
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Or take the driver out, disconnect/remove the CD and push it out from the inside.
Oh, that scares me. But doable... as a last resort. Are those standard hex screws on the s8?
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Oh, that scares me. But doable... as a lady resort. Are those standard hex screws on the s8?
I think that should be plan A, actually. I bet you could get it as good as new. Jeff may be able to warn you if there is anything to be careful about.

It sounds like you just need something to stick through the back and poke it back out.
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Placement question.

I've got 4 s8. 2 are regular surround. Should I use 2 for surround backs or wides? I'll use my ed6c for whatever is left over.
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Agreed...functioning just perfectly and I've got the speaker cover on top anyway....just annoyed it's there. Ironic thing...I was planning to mount yesterday already before the gtg...and the poking kid came just days before.
Try the tape trick. I did that with a T12 dust cap once and it worked perfectly.

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Try the tape trick. I did that with a T12 dust cap once and it worked perfectly.
That's reassuring to hear...Tried painter's, but too weak. I'll try some packing or duck tape when I find it.
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Well, in line with my usual ready, fire, aim methodology () I am going to an Atmos 7.2.4 config. I'll post pics and impressions once I get it setup in a week or so. Having the processor that can do it and really enjoying what I hear with Dolby Surround Up-mixing (DSU), I decided to pull the trigger on an economical setup. Picked up 4 JBL 8340a's for front and back height speakers and a Behringer iNuke NU4-6000 to drive them.

The setup will be very close to the Dolby Atmos Speaker Setup Specification for 7.1.4. Now, if there was only some Atmos content worth listening to.
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Placement question.

I've got 4 s8. 2 are regular surround. Should I use 2 for surround backs or wides? I'll use my ed6c for whatever is left over.
It's a matter of taste.

Speaking personally, I'm not crazy about anything that messes with the front soundstage. For Atmos, wides could be great, but not so great for DSX & similar. I prefer to fill that front gap with wider placement (even corner placement) of the LR speakers.

So I'd lean toward using the s8s for surround.
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