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if you want the cable color to show through, get smaller flex.
Red with black over it.
This looks very good! Which cable and flex are you using here?

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This looks very good! Which cable and flex are you using here?
These are very old pics. Monoprice 12 gauge wire. Techflex red 3/8 and black 1/4 if memory serves.
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Hey guys!

Ya'll inspired me to re-do my cables - and in doing so I have done a ton of research on cables and connectors that has both shocked and horrified me seeing how much some of these things can be sold for. I guess thats why we DIY Right?

Anyways - I looked at some cable designs that I liked and was trying to find what kind of tech flex they used to get this effect but havent had much luck. Specifically, its the outer black "web" that covers the colored cable (maybe a tighter weave tech flex?). It would also be interesting to see how they did that gold metal thingy where the cable splits into 2. The image is attached to this post.
old, but idea
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These are very old pics. Monoprice 12 gauge wire. Techflex red 3/8 and black 1/4 if memory serves.
Let me see if I understand this. You're using 2 flex's? If so which is under the other?

I like that first red one especially.

I'm probably going with Monoprice 14AWG in wall. I'm guessing that those flex sizes will still work.

On another note. I'll be using Monoprice 14AWG zip cord for the rears. What flex size is recommended for that speaker wire for a single zip cord and also for 2 zip cords together?

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Let me see if I understand this. You're using 2 flex's? If so which is under the other?

I like that first red one especially.

I'm probably going with Monoprice 14AWG in wall. I'm guessing that those flex sizes will still work.

On another note. I'll be using Monoprice 14AWG zip cord for the rears. What flex size is recommended for that speaker wire for a single zip cord and also for 2 zip cords together?

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yes, Im using red first 3/8 and black 1/4 if I remember correctly. Might not be as snug on 14 gauge.
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yes, Im using red first 3/8 and black 1/4 if I remember correctly. Might not be as snug on 14 gauge.
Hmm. It's a nice look, I might give it a try.



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more ideas. you dont always have to use cable pants, they can be cable skirts.
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Hmm. It's a nice look, I might give it a try.



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just depends on what color you want showing through. The reason I did the red and black is because the red was too bright, and I toned it down with the black.
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just depends on what color you want showing through. The reason I did the red and black is because the red was too bright, and I toned it down with the black.
The two tech-flex was a smart idea! How hard is it to get the smaller black tech flex over the bigger red?

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just depends on what color you want showing through. The reason I did the red and black is because the red was too bright, and I toned it down with the black.
The I agree, the red flex looks way too bright in the photos. The block on red looks awesome, elegant and matches the Red Burl finish of my speakers. I originally was going to go rattlesnake flex but your red ones rock.

I'm not sure what the diameter of Monoprices 14AWG zip cord is. I want to do the same for those but they will be bundled in pairs (2x14AWG zip cords together)
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The two tech-flex was a smart idea! How hard is it to get the smaller black tech flex over the bigger red?
not hard at all. Just get your red on, cut correctly, and secured temporarily and then put on the 1/4. little bulky on ends but no real issue to hide.
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So I decided to build some cables of my own. Just ordered some Sewell Deadbolts, Sewell doubles (for behind the tv cabinet), black techflex, and Knukonceptz pants. I already have 12ga MP wire.

A couple questions...

Has anyone used pants with Sewell deadbolts?

I do not have a hot knife, how hot would I have to get a pair of scissors to cut the techflex and keep it from fraying?

How susceptible is LFE to interference? I was throwing around the idea of building a single cable using quad-wire with LFE (RCA) and a tigger (3.5mm).
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...I do not have a hot knife, how hot would I have to get a pair of scissors to cut the techflex and keep it from fraying?...

Just have a lighter handy, and hold the flame 1/4" away from the cut end(s) until the filaments start to melt.

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Good to know. I tried to sleeve computer cables years ago and it was a mess.
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The pearl will let color show through on its own. Thats just the way its made.
The second one is green/black flex with black smaller flex over.
How exactly do you attach the cables to the banana plugs, solder?
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How exactly do you attach the cables to the banana plugs, solder?
I used GLS audio banana plugs which are easy to work with. Strip the wire back, and slide it in the banana plug which then has two screws to hold the wire in place.
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So I decided to build some cables of my own. Just ordered some Sewell Deadbolts, Sewell doubles (for behind the tv cabinet), black techflex, and Knukonceptz pants. I already have 12ga MP wire.

A couple questions...

Has anyone used pants with Sewell deadbolts?

I do not have a hot knife, how hot would I have to get a pair of scissors to cut the techflex and keep it from fraying?

How susceptible is LFE to interference? I was throwing around the idea of building a single cable using quad-wire with LFE (RCA) and a tigger (3.5mm).
Out of all the cables I have built, I have never used a hot knife. cut with scissors very carefully, then burn with lighter lightly.
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I do not have a hot knife, how hot would I have to get a pair of scissors to cut the techflex and keep it from fraying?
You can also wrap the techflex with a piece of electrical tape, then cut through the middle of the tape to avoid fraying.
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Just have a lighter handy, and hold the flame 1/4" away from the cut end(s) until the filaments start to melt.
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Out of all the cables I have built, I have never used a hot knife. cut with scissors very carefully, then burn with lighter lightly.

+1 for the above two quotes.

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So I decided to build some cables of my own. Just ordered some Sewell Deadbolts, Sewell doubles (for behind the tv cabinet), black techflex, and Knukonceptz pants. I already have 12ga MP wire.

A couple questions...

Has anyone used pants with Sewell deadbolts?

I do not have a hot knife, how hot would I have to get a pair of scissors to cut the techflex and keep it from fraying?

How susceptible is LFE to interference? I was throwing around the idea of building a single cable using quad-wire with LFE (RCA) and a tigger (3.5mm).

For the deadbolts, very easy to install.
Look at the instructions.
Cut insulation, insert, fray the wire around and screw in the top part.
You can always put a drop of blue Lock Tight on the treads, to secure-it (not required).


For the hot knife, I also suggest the lighter option has mention in the first two quotes.
I did bought a hot knife, while it does cut fine without fraying, it also fuse the sleeve together.
So when you try to re-open the sleeve, fraying start again.


Scissor and lighter are the best option in my experience.


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So I finished my first four cables. Ultimately I got what I was looking for. They are about 18" long to jump from the wall plates to the speakers. My only complaints is the when I made the two for the back speakers I plugged them into the front speakers first to make sure I didn't get any hissing or any thing funky like that. Well when I pulled them out i found that the compression sleeves that hold the plugs into the binding post had compressed flat... I pried them out and they work but I would never trust the dead bolts for applications where they will be plugged in and unplugged many times. My next set will be for the center and from the AVR to the wall plate.
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So I finished my first four cables. Ultimately I got what I was looking for. They are about 18" long to jump from the wall plates to the speakers. My only complaints is the when I made the two for the back speakers I plugged them into the front speakers first to make sure I didn't get any hissing or any thing funky like that. Well when I pulled them out i found that the compression sleeves that hold the plugs into the binding post had compressed flat... I pried them out and they work but I would never trust the dead bolts for applications where they will be plugged in and unplugged many times. My next set will be for the center and from the AVR to the wall plate.
I was decided on using Deabolts for my 1st cable builds. I'd heard a lot of good things about them but now you have me second-guessing the Deadbolt choice.

Nice looking cables BTW.
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I was decided on using Deabolts for my 1st cable builds. I'd heard a lot of good things about them but now you have me second-guessing the Deadbolt choice.

Nice looking cables BTW.
The dead bolts are very nice estitically, easy to use, and heavy. I don't know if it was a fluke or what. I guess time will tell.

And thank you.
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So I finished my first four cables. Ultimately I got what I was looking for. They are about 18" long to jump from the wall plates to the speakers. My only complaints is the when I made the two for the back speakers I plugged them into the front speakers first to make sure I didn't get any hissing or any thing funky like that. Well when I pulled them out i found that the compression sleeves that hold the plugs into the binding post had compressed flat... I pried them out and they work but I would never trust the dead bolts for applications where they will be plugged in and unplugged many times. My next set will be for the center and from the AVR to the wall plate.
Looks awesome. I too do not recommend the dead bolts. I'm going to go with spades next time. I wanted to asked you where did you buy the wall plate? Monoprice? I need to do the same for my surround speakers.
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I was decided on using Deabolts for my 1st cable builds. I'd heard a lot of good things about them but now you have me second-guessing the Deadbolt choice.

Nice looking cables BTW.
The deadbolts become loose over time. So, if you are going to be taking them out / in for a few times I don't recommend them.
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Yes I got them from Monoprice. The only problem I have had was they seemed to come loose when screwing down on bear wire (that is why i am switching to banana plugs). I had a scare where I was getting popping noises out of on of my rear speakers, turned out a couple of the backed off again.On the in-wall side i just used pliers and tightened the heck out of them. Took them off last week and they were still tight.

I think I too will be switching them out for either locking plugs or spades.
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Yes I got them from Monoprice. The only problem I have had was they seemed to come loose when screwing down on bear wire (that is why i am switching to banana plugs). I had a scare where I was getting popping noises out of on of my rear speakers, turned out a couple of the backed off again.On the in-wall side i just used pliers and tightened the heck out of them. Took them off last week and they were still tight.

I think I too will be switching them out for either locking plugs or spades.
Thanks for the heads up. I will use banana plugs as well. I guess the spades wouldn't be of good use since they would come loose.
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Anyone know the thickness of a 12 gauge wire including its pvc jacket? Im trying to figure out what techflex I need to achieve the look in the 2 attached pics. Just trying to make sure I have everything right before I make the order.

So far ive come up with this list:
-24' of Furez 12AWG wire (since im only doing F/L/C channels for now)
-25' of 3/8" Titanium Grey color Tech Flex for the main, outer sleeve (diameter which is .425"). Heres the color I like. Maybe Furryletters has something similar.
-25' of 1/8" Black color Tech Flex for the negative 12 gauge conductor
-25' of 1/8" Red color Tech Flex for the positive 12 gauge conductor (im assuming i would use the 1/8" black over this to achieve the effect I want?
-6, 11mm Pants from PE
-Assorted 3:1 Black Adhesive Polyolefin Heat Shrinks

Does this seem good? Thanks guys!
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Which set of speakers cables would be slimmer or less bulky to run behind a base board, four pairs of Monoprice 14 AWG zip-cord or two Monoprice 4 wire 14 AWG in-wall cables?
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Anyone know the thickness of a 12 gauge wire including its pvc jacket? Im trying to figure out what techflex I need to achieve the look in the 2 attached pics. Just trying to make sure I have everything right before I make the order.

So far ive come up with this list:
-24' of Furez 12AWG wire (since im only doing F/L/C channels for now)
-25' of 3/8" Titanium Grey color Tech Flex for the main, outer sleeve (diameter which is .425"). Heres the color I like. Maybe Furryletters has something similar.
-25' of 1/8" Black color Tech Flex for the negative 12 gauge conductor
-25' of 1/8" Red color Tech Flex for the positive 12 gauge conductor (im assuming i would use the 1/8" black over this to achieve the effect I want?
-6, 11mm Pants from PE
-Assorted 3:1 Black Adhesive Polyolefin Heat Shrinks

Does this seem good? Thanks guys!
Are you trying to make the whole cable red with black over it? Or are you doing the main part grey?

3/8 red with 1/4 black over it makes it have a different look.
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Anyone know the thickness of a 12 gauge wire including its pvc jacket? Im trying to figure out what techflex I need to achieve the look in the 2 attached pics. Just trying to make sure I have everything right before I make the order.

So far ive come up with this list:
-24' of Furez 12AWG wire (since im only doing F/L/C channels for now)
-25' of 3/8" Titanium Grey color Tech Flex for the main, outer sleeve (diameter which is .425"). Heres the color I like. Maybe Furryletters has something similar.
-25' of 1/8" Black color Tech Flex for the negative 12 gauge conductor
-25' of 1/8" Red color Tech Flex for the positive 12 gauge conductor (im assuming i would use the 1/8" black over this to achieve the effect I want?
-6, 11mm Pants from PE
-Assorted 3:1 Black Adhesive Polyolefin Heat Shrinks

Does this seem good? Thanks guys!

For the cable pants, from memory I use 10 or 11mm for my 12 gauge wires.
I cannot remember for sure, any how the pants are cheap to buy, a lot lest than shipping.
So, I would buy both and see what work better for you.

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Are you trying to make the whole cable red with black over it? Or are you doing the main part grey?

3/8 red with 1/4 black over it makes it have a different look.

The way I read his post.
The main cable will be gray, and the leads are going to be black and red.


I included the OP in these quote, to correct me if I'm wrong
Also glad to see, this thread come back alive once in a while.


Ray

Last edited by darthray; 12-26-2015 at 07:27 PM.
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