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I know Erskine guys really like the triads too. Kblaws theater (HTOTM) is definitely not budget limited. He has procella p860s for lcr and triads for atmos. I believe p8s for surrounds.
Kblaw uses P6 for sides and surrounds. Triad mini LCR8s were used for ceiling Atmos speakers as Procella did not have an in-wall solution at the time those were installed, FYI.
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Great! What Triad models are you using?
(3) Procella P6

(4) InWall Silver/4 Surround Di-pole
(4) InCeiling Silver/8 Omni SE

(1) PAIR of InWall Bronze/4 SlimSubs (8 ohm)
(1) RackAmp 700 DSP

(2) PSA S1500 Subwoofers
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I too was looking at different speakers, possibly in combination with some Procella. I did a lot of demoing and for the size and performance, there was nothing close to Procella. I ended up getting a total of 13 Procella speakers for my theater as described below. My theater is now all timber matched and sounds awesome. I'm very glad I made the decision to go all Procella!

3 of P8s for LCR
2 of P6s for Front Row Sides
2 of P5s for Rear Row Sides
2 of P5s for Rear
4 of P5s for In-Ceiling (Atmos)

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Speakers: Procella P8 (LCR), P6V (2 Front Side), P5 (2 Rear Side, 2 Rear, 4 Ceiling). Subs: Deep Sea Sound Custom 18" Mariana (4). Amps: Crown DCi 8|300 (2), SpeakerPower SP2-12000-HT. Processors: Yamaha CX-A5100, Xilica XP-8080 (2). Video: JVC RS400, 2.37 Seymour AV 120" Enlightor 4K Screen, Kaleidescape Strato, Philips BDP7501. Control: iRule.
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May as well list mine !

3 x front - P610
4 x sides - P6
2 x rear - P6
2 x main subs - P15
3 x balancing subs - P10Si

Five years later and I'm still in awe of how good it sounds.

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May as well list mine !

3 x front - P610
4 x sides - P6
2 x rear - P6
2 x main subs - P15
3 x balancing subs - P10Si

Five years later and I'm still in awe of how good it sounds.

Planning to add 6 x P5 for Atmos.

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The P610s are solid... If I move to a bigger room, I might upgrade to those...

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(3) Procella P6

(4) InWall Silver/4 Surround Di-pole
(4) InCeiling Silver/8 Omni SE

(1) PAIR of InWall Bronze/4 SlimSubs (8 ohm)
(1) RackAmp 700 DSP

(2) PSA S1500 Subwoofers
Nice HT!

I am not a big fan of over complicated baffle walls. Yours appears to be relatively simple. Do you have any pictures of screen/baffle wall during the construction that you can share? What did you use to cover the wall?

Thanks

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Guys, what kind of discount can I expect when dealing with dealers for Procella speakers? Please PM me me if you prefer not to discuss in open forum.

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JTR speakers have a huge following on this forum. Did anyone of you guys ever did A/B comparison with JTR Noesis?

Apart from recommendation from HT designers, what were the reasons you chose Procella over other (often cheaper) options like JTR or JBL?
I demoed the JTR Noesis 228 HTR vs the Procella P8 for about two weeks in my theater. I could never get the JTR to sound natural for voices and they produced too much sibilance. I really wanted to like the JTR since they are a lot cheaper than the Procella. The JTR's are also massive and just plain hard to work with (this is coming from someone that owns the 220lb JTR Captivator S2 ).

I am glad I ended up going with Procella as the sound is extremely smooth and natural and they are very dynamic. I am completely happy with my decision and I think you will be too if you decide to go Procella.

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Subs: JTR Captivator subs: One S2, Two RS2, One S1
Screen: 2.40:1 Seymour XD Acoustically Transparent, 128" diagonal / 118" wide || Projector: JVC X570/RS420
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Nice HT!

I am not a big fan of over complicated baffle walls. Yours appears to be relatively simple. Do you have any pictures of screen/baffle wall during the construction that you can share? What did you use to cover the wall?

Thanks
I built my baffle wall per Nyal Mellor's design and will share some pics.
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7.4.6 system: Processors:Marantz 8805 || Xilica XP4080 Amps: Parasound A31 and ATI AT528NC & AT526NC n-core ||Speakers: Procella P8 LCR, Procella P5/P5 in-wall
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Important news for our US customers and dealers, we are investing heavily in the US market, with a new warehousing facility in the LA Area and a major boost in inventory, which means that Procella products will be available from stock, for immediate shipping to anywhere in the C48 USA. Contact Chuck for details.
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Has anyone here mounted their LCRs without building a baffle wall?

Can P8s be just kept on a wall mounted shelf decoupled with foam (from shelf)? Subs on the floor and I can cover the wall behind the speakers with wedge foam tiles. How much will it impact the sound as compared to acoustic baffle wall?

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Has anyone here mounted their LCRs without building a baffle wall?

Can P8s be just kept on a wall mounted shelf decoupled with foam (from shelf)? Subs on the floor and I can cover the wall behind the speakers with wedge foam tiles. How much will it impact the sound as compared to acoustic baffle wall?

This may have some useful information regarding your question.


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Thanks a lot!

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Alternative to a Baffle Wall
When it is not possible or practical to construct a full baffle wall, a less complicated option that
provides many of the benefits of a baffle wall can be achieved by flush-mounting the speakers on the existing front wall of the room and treating that wall with the acoustic treatment materials described above. The material should be 1 to 4 inches deep, and should cover the entire wall with the exception of the speaker front baffles and the screen. The wall can be covered with acoustically transparent fabric to conceal the absorbing material and the speakers.

How can you flush mount the speakers on an existing wall? Does that mean make cutout in drywall and install speakers in between studs?

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I had a Dennis Erskine designed theater in Canada.

I got divorced and sold my house unfortunately without my theater equipment. I now have the following for sale:

I have a powered P18 sub
I have two P10si balancing subs
I have three LCR P610 main speakers
I have four Triad Bronze in wall surround speakers

Prefer to sell as a package and in Canada if possible but would ship in USA.

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I had a Dennis Erskine designed theater in Canada.

I got divorced and sold my house unfortunately without my theater equipment. I now have the following for sale:

I have a powered P18 sub
I have two P10si balancing subs
I have three LCR P610 main speakers
I have four Triad Bronze in wall surround speakers

Prefer to sell as a package and in Canada if possible but would ship in USA.
No reasonable offer will he refused. I can also drive to any US border within 8-10 hours from me to deliver the speakers.

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No reasonable offer will he refused. I can also drive to any US border within 8-10 hours from me to deliver the speakers.
** Ignore it. I just noticed that you have posted in the audio gear forum**

Have you posted in classifieds section of the forum? You may be able to get more views there.

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Important news for our US customers and dealers, we are investing heavily in the US market, with a new warehousing facility in the LA Area and a major boost in inventory, which means that Procella products will be available from stock, for immediate shipping to anywhere in the C48 USA. Contact Chuck for details.


Gerben- I saw where Procella announced new V21 subwoofer with 21 inch dual opposing drivers! See where max SPL is listed. Are there other specs on the new sub? Looks impressive!


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Gerben- I saw where Procella announced new V21 subwoofer with 21 inch dual opposing drivers! See where max SPL is listed. Are there other specs on the new sub? Looks impressive!
Thanks! V21 MAXIMUM SPL: 139dB continuous, 145dB peak! –3 dB point of 18 Hz, which means 18Hz at 136dB continuous!! Contact Chuck Back if you want to buy one, or two

For full specs see https://procella.audio/product/v21/

RRP is USD $10,999 and you need our DA07 (2 x 1,450W) amplifier. We will have a V21 on display at CEDIA Expo, our booth number is 1519, opposite the CEDIA booth. Come see us!
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What amps are you guys using with your Procellas? I have shortlisted P8s for LCR and P5Vs for the surrounds and now looking into amplifier options. For the longest time I had my mind on Monoprice Monolith 7 x 200 to power the base layer and use the Denon AVR to power the Atmos layer. I am wondering if QSC DCA or even the Behringer NX4-6000 (4 x 440W at 8 Ohms) would be a better option. Behringer is half the price and but several people report issues like loud fans etc with them. Whats your experience with class D vs AB amps with Procella?
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What amps are you guys using with your Procellas? I have shortlisted P8s for LCR and P5Vs for the surrounds and now looking into amplifier options. For the longest time I had my mind on Monoprice Monolith 7 x 200 to power the base layer and use the Denon AVR to power the Atmos layer. I am wondering if QSC DCA or even the Behringer NX4-6000 (4 x 440W at 8 Ohms) would be a better option. Behringer is half the price and but several people report issues like loud fans etc with them. Whats your experience with class D vs AB amps with Procella?
Hi, thank you for selecting Procella loudspeakers for your home cinema! Our amps are made for us by Labgruppen, we programme the DSP with all the XO/EQ curves for all our subwoofers and bi-amped models. For the P8 you do not need any such DSP or course. We like the performance of the Labgruppens a lot. The QSC are very good too. I would stay away from Behringer, they are made to a budget and you get what you pay for. After 10 years or so, I recently installed a P8 with an AB amp again, that was rated at 2 x 100W, and I bridged that into one P8. The most obvious thing was the lack of power and the lack of recovery speed, making the P8 sound a bit less dynamic than it would do with a fast class D. Remember, the Procella loudspeakers are designed to be very dynamic and can be played at loud levels, so you need an amp that can keep up with that.

My recommendation would be (of course) to use our DA05 amps for the P8 (use the spare channel for a P10Si balancing sub, you will use the built-in DSP for this one) and for the surrounds. As you say, the Denon can be used for the overheads.

All Procella products are in stock in our new California based warehouse, so supply is easy. When do you need the loudspeakers?
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Can't go wrong with Labgruppen or QSC. I use QSC DCA 1622's for my P8's. Works well.

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Hi, thank you for selecting Procella loudspeakers for your home cinema! Our amps are made for us by Labgruppen, we programme the DSP with all the XO/EQ curves for all our subwoofers and bi-amped models. For the P8 you do not need any such DSP or course. We like the performance of the Labgruppens a lot. The QSC are very good too. I would stay away from Behringer, they are made to a budget and you get what you pay for. After 10 years or so, I recently installed a P8 with an AB amp again, that was rated at 2 x 100W, and I bridged that into one P8. The most obvious thing was the lack of power and the lack of recovery speed, making the P8 sound a bit less dynamic than it would do with a fast class D. Remember, the Procella loudspeakers are designed to be very dynamic and can be played at loud levels, so you need an amp that can keep up with that.

My recommendation would be (of course) to use our DA05 amps for the P8 (use the spare channel for a P10Si balancing sub, you will use the built-in DSP for this one) and for the surrounds. As you say, the Denon can be used for the overheads.

All Procella products are in stock in our new California based warehouse, so supply is easy. When do you need the loudspeakers?

Gerben, Thanks a lot for the input. I will look into Labgruppen and QSC. At this time I am looking for a single amp with atleast 3 channels to power my LCR. My time frame for ordering all equipment is close to the month of November.
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My LCR are the P610s and they're powered by the older Procella amps which were made by Powersoft. The Powersoft M28Q to be precise - 4 x 700 watts into 4 ohms. Very, very happy with them !

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Hi, thank you for selecting Procella loudspeakers for your home cinema! Our amps are made for us by Labgruppen, we programme the DSP with all the XO/EQ curves for all our subwoofers and bi-amped models. For the P8 you do not need any such DSP or course. We like the performance of the Labgruppens a lot. The QSC are very good too. I would stay away from Behringer, they are made to a budget and you get what you pay for. After 10 years or so, I recently installed a P8 with an AB amp again, that was rated at 2 x 100W, and I bridged that into one P8. The most obvious thing was the lack of power and the lack of recovery speed, making the P8 sound a bit less dynamic than it would do with a fast class D. Remember, the Procella loudspeakers are designed to be very dynamic and can be played at loud levels, so you need an amp that can keep up with that.

My recommendation would be (of course) to use our DA05 amps for the P8 (use the spare channel for a P10Si balancing sub, you will use the built-in DSP for this one) and for the surrounds. As you say, the Denon can be used for the overheads.

All Procella products are in stock in our new California based warehouse, so supply is easy. When do you need the loudspeakers?
Procella website states power handling for P8s - Continuous 250 Watt, Peak 1000 Watt. What kind of power on class D amp do you recommend for P8s? Is 250 wpc (e.g. QSC DCA 1644) adequate? Thanks

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Procella website states power handling for P8s - Continuous 250 Watt, Peak 1000 Watt. What kind of power on class D amp do you recommend for P8s? Is 250 wpc (e.g. QSC DCA 1644) adequate? Thanks
We recommend between 250W and 350W continuous for the P8, the 1644 should be an excellent amp for your purposes.
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Peter, what product (black panels) did you mount on the drywall for the face of the wall?

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Peter, what product (black panels) did you mount on the drywall for the face of the wall?
The baffle wall is two layers of 3/4" MDF.

The facing is 25mm thick black polyester insulation.

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For a dual sub config I'm looking for an additional P12 sub woofer. Anyone?

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