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Philharmonic Center BMR



... unconventional center for the discerning audio enthusiasts [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]


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Big improvement over the Elac C5.2 it replaced in my bedroom system. Vocals are so clear even at night time low volume listening.
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What are the dimensions on the modified center? I've been saving up for a set of three, including a center. But I'm now worried it won't fit based on your picture.
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Big improvement over the Elac C5.2 it replaced in my bedroom system. Vocals are so clear even at night time low volume listening.
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What are the dimensions on the modified center? I've been saving up for a set of three, including a center. But I'm now worried it won't fit based on your picture.

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20" W x 8" H x 12-1/2" D without grill

20" W x 8" H x 13" D with grill

See below how it compares to Elac C5.2 in size.

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Philharmonic Center BMR



... unconventional center for the discerning audio enthusiasts [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]


Side by side comparison.




Big improvement over the Elac C5.2 it replaced in my bedroom system. Vocals are so clear even at night time low volume listening.
Best center ive ever heard.
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... unconventional center for the discerning audio enthusiasts [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]


Side by side comparison.




Big improvement over the Elac C5.2 it replaced in my bedroom system. Vocals are so clear even at night time low volume listening.
I guess I'm dense. What is this? A new speaker from PA, a DIY mod, what?
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I guess I'm dense. What is this? A new speaker from PA, a DIY mod, what?
bmr center

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@Dennis Murphy have you ever tried doing an open back BMR for the mid and high range like the Slims and 3's or installing drivers on the rear also. Just wondering since I see all the cool things you are doing with the BMR from towers to centers.
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I am dreaming of doing the same thing.
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I get that it's a BMR center. I'm trying to learn where it came from.
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I get that it's a BMR center. I'm trying to learn where it came from.
Hi It's not coming from someplace special. It's just a garden variety BMR with tweeter rotated a quarter turn so it will be vertical when the speaker is on its side. It works better than an MTM, and you get a perfect driver match across the front.
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I get that it's a BMR center. I'm trying to learn where it came from.
Mine came from Dennis Murphy along with the FR test curve he measured prior to shipment. It gives me assurance that my center voice-matches my BMR L/R pair. Where else can you get a personalized service like that?


Center BMR FR-Curve
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Looks like a great idea. Dennis, could a customer order three BMRs, with one rotated tweeter?

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Looks like a great idea. Dennis, could a customer order three BMRs, with one rotated tweeter?
Sure could. The cost of a single BMR would be $700, so that's a little cheaper than my MTM.
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Sure could. The cost of a single BMR would be $700, so that's a little cheaper than my MTM.
Any price difference between a "normal" BMR and one made to lay on its side?

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OK, color me confused as well, but for a different reason. The speaker on the right is the BMR Philharmonic, correct? Is this an older version with a squatter/shorter cabinet or the newest/current version cabinet?

The picture on the website has the taller cabinet, like the center channel w/ rotated-tweeter pictured here on the left.
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OK, color me confused as well, but for a different reason. The speaker on the right is the BMR Philharmonic, correct? Is this an older version with a squatter/shorter cabinet or the newest/current version cabinet?

The picture on the website has the taller cabinet, like the center channel w/ rotated-tweeter pictured here on the left.
Right--that center used the now-defunct Parts Express cabinet. I can't get them anymore. I don't remember why this particular center was done with the PE cabinet, but sometimes people asked for it because the 20" current cabinet was too wide on its side.
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OK, color me confused as well, but for a different reason. The speaker on the right is the BMR Philharmonic, correct? Is this an older version with a squatter/shorter cabinet or the newest/current version cabinet?

The picture on the website has the taller cabinet, like the center channel w/ rotated-tweeter pictured here on the left.
Correct. The BMR on the right is an older version assembled with the curved stout cabinet. The curved cabinet is not suitable for center so I waited until Dennis had the slim rectangular cabinet before ordering my center.
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Right--that center used the now-defunct Parts Express cabinet. I can't get them anymore. I don't remember why this particular center was done with the PE cabinet, but sometimes people asked for it because the 20" current cabinet was too wide on its side.
OK, thank you Dennis.

So in addition to the website using the older style cabinet, the measurements are also still being listed with that cabinet as well?


From the website, measurements from two different cabinets, neither of them being the standard cabinet options anymore?:

Dimensions Piano Black: 20" H x 8" W x 12-1/2" D
Cherry: 17" H x (10" Front, 4.5" Back) W x 14" D
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Right--that center used the now-defunct Parts Express cabinet. I can't get them anymore. I don't remember why this particular center was done with the PE cabinet, but sometimes people asked for it because the 20" current cabinet was too wide on its side.
My B&W HTM71s2 center is actually bigger than the BMR center. The 20x8x12.5 BMR has perfect dimensions and proportion as a center.
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OK, thank you Dennis.

So in addition to the website using the older style cabinet, the measurements are also still being listed with that cabinet as well?


From the website, measurements from two different cabinets, neither of them being the standard cabinet options anymore?:

Dimensions Piano Black: 20" H x 8" W x 12-1/2" D
Cherry: 17" H x (10" Front, 4.5" Back) W x 14" D
The website has the current cabinets listed, and the measurements still apply.
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The website has the current cabinets listed, and the measurements still apply.
Both are still correct, as listed, ie, for both the piano black and then for the second set of dimensions listed for the cherry?
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Both are still correct, as listed, ie, for both the piano black and then for the second set of dimensions listed for the cherry?
Those are correct, although those for the cherry are now irrelevant. I just checked and Parts Express has sold all of the cherry cabinets and doesn't plan offer them any longer.
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Those are correct, although those for the cherry are now irrelevant. I just checked and Parts Express has sold all of the cherry cabinets and doesn't plan offer them any longer.
I should add that they've been out of the piano black 17" cabinets for some time, and those have also been discontinued.
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I should add that they've been out of the piano black 17" cabinets for some time, and those have also been discontinued.
Ok. Thanks again.
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Sure could. The cost of a single BMR would be $700, so that's a little cheaper than my MTM.
Out of curiosity; what is the current turn around time on the “new” bmr? “New” bmr meaning the 20 inch tall cabinet. I might be real interested in 2 normal “new” bmr and 1 center. :-)
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Out of curiosity; what is the current turn around time on the “new” bmr? “New” bmr meaning the 20 inch tall cabinet. I might be real interested in 2 normal “new” bmr and 1 center. :-)
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Normally it wouldn't take very long. But right now I'm working 24-7 to get speakers built and shipped before Xmas, so any new order for a BMR wouldn't be filled until very early in the New Year.
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Normally it wouldn't take very long. But right now I'm working 24-7 to get speakers built and shipped before Xmas, so any new order for a BMR wouldn't be filled until very early in the New Year.
Thank you Dennis.
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Normally it wouldn't take very long. But right now I'm working 24-7 to get speakers built and shipped before Xmas, so any new order for a BMR wouldn't be filled until very early in the New Year.
Can the BMR be front ported?
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Can the BMR be front ported?
Only if you order a custom Salk cabinet. That adds $100 to his base price of $1,650, and it usually takes him 5 months to finish the cabinets. You only need 4-6 inches free behind the rear ported version, and the rear heavily flared port performs better.
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Only if you order a custom Salk cabinet. That adds $100 to his base price of $1,650, and it usually takes him 5 months to finish the cabinets. You only need 4-6 inches free behind the rear ported version, and the rear heavily flared port performs better.
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