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Whut. Right when I'm thrilled with my purchase they go and make me regret it!
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Well just to my eyes, they look like kind of a step backwards in a effort to look more normal. Glad I have my 580’s. And 530 now. Might have to grab some 590s on closeout just to avoid regrets later.

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Kind of hard to tell what they'll look like w/o seeing the grills though. I'm salivating at the new center(s), however.

How long does it typically take JBL to have a 50% off sale on a line of speakers? Will we likely be waiting months or years before we see the 6 line at 50% off? Trying to decide if I should wait for those or just be happy with the deal I just got on the 530s (which are still sealed in their boxes awaiting cables/stands).

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In other news, a large volume of Studio 5 series have recently hit the classifieds on all major AV forums.
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JBL 580 329.95

https://www.jbl.com/STUDIO+580BK.htm...8403d50a240612

Smokin deal for a little over 2,044. Add 4 580 to those that were lucky enough to get a pair of 590 withthe 520C center.

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Looks like The Studio 5 is out the door; in with the Studio 6

https://jp.jbl.com/on/demandware.sta...et_English.pdf

FYI Studio 5's have not been available in Japan fore a few months now; and some models of the Sudio 6 are already at retail here even thought they were announced for summer
Interesting. Wonder if they're using the horn from M2/LSR...the language they use is similar to the JBL 4367 "HD imaging waveguide". I'm a big fan of the LSR series, have not heard the M2
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i just called jbl and representative said he didnt know when the 530s would be in stock again, and he did not see any purchase orders for another shipment of 530s
damn, wanted 2 more pairs
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Whut. Right when I'm thrilled with my purchase they go and make me regret it!
New series or not, I bet you won't be getting them for this price any time soon. Smile and enjoy the value of the current 5 series
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i just called jbl and representative said he didnt know when the 530s would be in stock again, and he did not see any purchase orders for another shipment of 530s
damn, wanted 2 more pairs
Well there are quite a few pairs floating around on ebay and the audio marts, but most are going $500-$700/ pair.
Still a decent value, just not as screaming.

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i just called jbl and representative said he didnt know when the 530s would be in stock again, and he did not see any purchase orders for another shipment of 530s
damn, wanted 2 more pairs
Ouch! If thats the case then people better scoop up the ones on ebay for less than $600 before there gone because if they dissapear again they will be back in the $800-1k range again like its been for 2 years. I'm so happy to seen the $50 off $550 coupon because I would have only purchased 1 set, but because of hte coupon I snatched up a second pair and got them for $550 and now have enough speakers to finish my whole setup.
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Looks like The Studio 5 is out the door; in with the Studio 6

https://jp.jbl.com/on/demandware.sta...et_English.pdf

FYI Studio 5's have not been available in Japan fore a few months now; and some models of the Sudio 6 are already at retail here even thought they were announced for summer
The 630 has virtually the same internal volume as the 530 (though with different proportion of width, depth and height) but with a 6.5" woofer in place of the 530's 5.25". You'd think the bigger woofer might improve sensitivity. Yet the 630's rated sensitivity actually falls to just 84dB from the 530's 86dB. That 84dB has to be the lowest sensitivity of any speaker using a compression driver. Also notable is the higher crossover point -- 2.3kHz vs. the 530's much liked 1.5kHz. On paper these specs don't sound encouraging, though of course real world performance remains to be seen.

Maybe it's time for someone to start a new 6 Series thread.
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The 630 has virtually the same internal volume as the 530 (though with different proportion of width, depth and height) but with a 6.5" woofer in place of the 530's 5.25". You'd think the bigger woofer might improve sensitivity. Yet the 630's rated sensitivity actually falls to just 84dB from the 530's 86dB. That 84dB has to be the lowest sensitivity of any speaker using a compression driver. Also notable is the higher crossover point -- 2.3kHz vs. the 530's much liked 1.5kHz. On paper these specs don't sound encouraging, though of course real world performance remains to be seen.

Maybe it's time for someone to start a new 6 Series thread.
Thanks for the info. Can you help me understand why the 1.5kHz crossover point is more preferable to 2.3kHz? Any insights you can discern from 690 specs vs. 590?
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Thanks for the info. Can you help me understand why the 1.5kHz crossover point is more preferable to 2.3kHz? Any insights you can discern from 690 specs vs. 590?
Some believe the more of the higher frequencies covered by the compression driver the better, so a lower crossover point from the woofer is preferable. It's not an absolute but if you read all the posts about the 5 Series it's pretty common to find a lot of praise for the relatively low 1.5kHz crossover point. As for comparing 5 and 6 series specs I just opened them up in two different tabs and toggled back and forth to see the differences.
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Thanks for the info. Can you help me understand why the 1.5kHz crossover point is more preferable to 2.3kHz? Any insights you can discern from 690 specs vs. 590?
Some believe the more of the higher frequencies covered by the compression driver the better, so a lower crossover point from the woofer is preferable. It's not an absolute but if you read all the posts about the 5 Series it's pretty common to find a lot of praise for the relatively low 1.5kHz crossover point. As for comparing 5 and 6 series specs I just opened them up in two different tabs and toggled back and forth to see the differences.
Just had a look, I think the 2.3khz you quoted is for the 620. The 630 crossover remains 1.7khz. As for 690 vs. 590, I was wondering if you could discern any insights from comparing the specs like you did for the bookshelves.
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Just had a look, I think the 2.3khz you quoted is for the 620. The 630 crossover remains 1.7khz. As for 690 vs. 590, I was wondering if you could discern any insights from comparing the specs like you did for the bookshelves.
We were both wrong about the 630 crossover frequency. The actual published spec is 1.9kHz vs. 1.5kHz for the 530. Not as bad as 2.3kHz for those who prefer a lower crossover to the compression driver but a step backwards for those who do, especially when the woofer has grown from 5.25" to 6.5". Also, sensitivity for the 630 is 85dB and not 84dB as I incorrectly stated, so only 1dB less than the 530. I have no insights on the 690 vs. 590 because my interest is in bookshelf speakers rather than floorstanders. Perhaps someone with interest in floorstanders will compare the specs and give their thoughts.
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i bought 2 pairs of 530s
is using the 520c instead of a third 530 as a center that much inferior sound quality?
i was going to return the 520 but now im thinking twice about it.
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Well there are quite a few pairs floating around on ebay and the audio marts, but most are going $500-$700/ pair.
Still a decent value, just not as screaming.
there's a craigslist "retailer" offering 530's at $600 here in phoenix(2 pair ,unopened) ,, dude can kiss my [email protected]@

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there's a craigslist "retailer" offering 530's at $600 here in phoenix(2 pair ,unopened) ,, dude can kiss my [email protected]@
Yeah f$%# that guy, bunch of greedy bastards. Lol
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i bought 2 pairs of 530s

is using the 520c instead of a third 530 as a center that much inferior sound quality?

i was going to return the 520 but now im thinking twice about it.
I don't see the 520C being a worse performer on center duty than a 530, especially comparing the dual 4" drivers to a single 5.25". I run a 520 with my 590s and it works well since I don't sit far from it. I'd imagine it's an even more fitting match to the 530s.

The form factor is certainly easier to accommodate in the average setup.

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Yeah f$%# that guy, bunch of greedy bastards. Lol
now , be aware, .. i'm not angry with the guy.. more power to him for thinking of it , and somebody will pay him some coin for the speakers , but it won't be me... if he was being reasonable ($350 maybe) i might do it , but double what he paid , with no returns or warranty.. uh uh..

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now , be aware, .. i'm not angry with the guy.. more power to him for thinking of it , and somebody will pay him some coin for the speakers , but it won't be me... if he was being reasonable ($350 maybe) i might do it , but double what he paid , with no returns or warranty.. uh uh..
Just wanted to say that I bought my 590s from acoustic something on amazon years ago and I emailed jbl and they said the warranty is based on the serial numbers manufacture date so it doesnt matter where you buy them since the warranty is attached to the serial number.

FYI, $550 Is probably the cheapest you will ever see again on Ebay. Now that there out of stock with new new orders and the studio 6 out soon these will be in high demand like they were over the last two years. Once the current overstock of those trying to make a quick buck ends the proces will rise once again even higher for the 530s.

If you didnt already know jbl also sold the 530s for $300 many years ago.

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i have hsu vtf2 mk5 subwoofer. denon x3300

is there any reason i should go with the 590 over the 580?
as i understand it they both have the exact same tweeter

i want to take advantage of the 580s sale but not sure just yet

i also have a couple pairs of 530s delivered tomorrow.

so the 530s, 580s and 590s have the same tweeters,
and ill be crossing over at 80 for all. wont all 3 speakers treble sound the same with bass coming from the subwoofer?
just trying to decide if i should order the 580s at this great price, or the 590s but they are huge, or keep the 530s

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i have hsu vtf2 mk5 subwoofer. denon x3300

is there any reason i should go with the 590 over the 580?
as i understand it they both have the exact same tweeter

i want to take advantage of the 580s sale but not sure just yet

i also have a couple pairs of 530s delivered tomorrow.

so the 530s, 580s and 590s have the same tweeters,
and ill be crossing over at 80 for all. wont all 3 speakers treble sound the same with bass coming from the subwoofer?
just trying to decide if i should order the 580s at this great price, or the 590s but they are huge, or keep the 530s

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i have hsu vtf2 mk5 subwoofer. denon x3300

is there any reason i should go with the 590 over the 580?
as i understand it they both have the exact same tweeter

i want to take advantage of the 580s sale but not sure just yet

i also have a couple pairs of 530s delivered tomorrow.

so the 530s, 580s and 590s have the same tweeters,
and ill be crossing over at 80 for all. wont all 3 speakers treble sound the same with bass coming from the subwoofer?
just trying to decide if i should order the 580s at this great price, or the 590s but they are huge, or keep the 530s
If space is anything you wanted to consider, the 590's are taller than the 580's by 7 inches. Attached is a size comparison. NOT my picture, but one found in a review on the product page.
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Interesting. Wonder if they're using the horn from M2/LSR...the language they use is similar to the JBL 4367 "HD imaging waveguide". I'm a big fan of the LSR series, have not heard the M2
JBL also refers to a "High Definition Imaging Waveguide" on the Studio 230, which is a decent speaker, but certainly not as good as the 530 or 590. I own all 3.

M2 uses a 3" compression driver, right? If so I would doubt the M2 would use the same horn that's going to be on this 6 series.
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Looking through the stats on the 6 series, the thing that seems most weird to me is that the 690, a 2.5 way design, lists two crossovers: 600 Hz and 1.7 kHz. Shouldn't there only be one crossover listed, like the lone 1.5 kHz crossover listed for the 590 (also a 2.5 way)? Or does the listing of a second crossover tell us something about how they're going to use one of those low frequency drivers, in a sort of pseudo-midrange role?

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^It's the same for the 680 and 665C as well, though at 600 Hz/1.8 kHz and 600 Hz/2.2 kHz, respectively. Be interested to see how these look more than anything!

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^It's the same for the 680 and 665C as well, though at 600 Hz/1.8 kHz and 600 Hz/2.2 kHz, respectively. Be interested to see how these look more than anything!
Yeah, it will be interesting to see the first pictures. It's clearly a different look. But HOW different, I wonder?

But I don't care much about look. A more pleasing form factor wouldn't be enough to get me to upgrade.
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Looking through the stats on the 6 series, the thing that seems most weird to me is that the 690, a 2.5 way design, lists two crossovers: 600 Hz and 1.7 kHz. Shouldn't there only be one crossover listed, like the lone 1.5 kHz crossover listed for the 590 (also a 2.5 way)? Or does the listing of a second crossover tell us something about how they're going to use one of those low frequency drivers, in a sort of pseudo-midrange role?
All 2.5 way speakers have two crossover points. I have always wondered what the lower one on my 590's was, but was never able to find out.

On the 690, for example, the lower woofer operates from 36Hz to 600Hz. The upper woofer operates from 36Hz to 1.7kHz and the tweeter operates from 1.7kHz to 40kHz. This configuration allows ONLY the upper woofer, the one closest to the horn tweeter, to produce the lower midrange and makes for a smoother, more focused, blending of frequencies at the upper crossover point.

So the effect is only the one woofer is producing midrange and both are producing bass. This crossover technique has been used by JBL for decades in their larger, dual woofer, stage systems.

I hope that that this somewhat simplified explanation helps.

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Edit: I do remember hearing somewhere that the lower XO point for the 590 was 500Hz @ 6db/oct. That seemed like a reasonable number, but I never read anything from JBL.
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