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Are there better center options than the 520 if your mains are 530’s? Especially at the cost of $149?

Another 530 is deal. Otherwise 520.


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I already had the wali mount in my living room for my Kef q100. I bought the same for the 530. I don’t know how well it is going to perform because there is going to be inly a few inches of space behind. So I will have to use the port plug on the 530.


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I also recommend unpacking and checking them before the end of return window. This is how one of mine looked like upon arrival. I bought it from Harman via ebay and it was quite a hassle to get an exchange.
Unfortunately it really wasn't possible. Getting all 3 into the tiny rental apartment would have been a major PITA. I don't really have room for them and have not even hooked up my receive yet, that is still in box. Hoping for the best and if anything major happens will use the warranty to deal with. The boxes were in great shape, so at least there is that.
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I already had the wali mount in my living room for my Kef q100. I bought the same for the 530. I don’t know how well it is going to perform because there is going to be inly a few inches of space behind. So I will have to use the port plug on the 530.


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Would the necessity of port plugs be eliminated if one was to crossover at 80hz?


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Would the necessity of port plugs be eliminated if one was to crossover at 80hz?


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Good question. Use the plugs to start with at 80hz,play or watch something with good midbass at the loudest you would listen to,afterwards check to see if the plug looks like it's out further than when you first put it in. If so than don't use the plug. Or just listen for a positive or negative impact.
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well i am happy i bought 2 pairs of the 530s for $300

i have another 2 pair 530s in my carts on both harmanaudio and jbl

expected shipping date on jbl.com is now Dec. 6

expected shipping date on harmanaudio.com is now Nov 25


i "expect" these wont be available new until 2020
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well i am happy i bought 2 pairs of the 530s for $300

i have another 2 pair 530s in my carts on both harmanaudio and jbl

expected shipping date on jbl.com is now Dec. 6

expected shipping date on harmanaudio.com is now Nov 25


i "expect" these wont be available new until 2020
Meaning, they'll only assemble more if they can find remainder Series 5 cabinets and other parts.

With the Series 6 on the way, the likelihood is dwindling.

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JBL's flagship studio monitors are 2-way. If your crossing to a sub, your technically already 3-way - don't ditch your current speakers for an additional cross over point without seeing the measurements and reviews of the new line. Newer can be better, but its not a guarantee.
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well i am happy i bought 2 pairs of the 530s for $300

i have another 2 pair 530s in my carts on both harmanaudio and jbl

expected shipping date on jbl.com is now Dec. 6

expected shipping date on harmanaudio.com is now Nov 25


i "expect" these wont be available new until 2020
I feel like the expected shipping dates should be reversed. When i ordered my 530's i first ordered them from harmon with a backorder date of the 9th i believe and at the time it said jbl was the 20th, but then i saw a code for $50 off 500 so i canceled my first order and ordered with jbl and it was shipped the next day LOL. I feel like JBL gets priority shipments over harmon which means the ETA dates are backwords.
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Are there better center options than the 520 if your mains are 530’s? Especially at the cost of $149?
My 520 just showed up and HOLY CRAP is it a monster lol. When I saw 21lbs on the shipment I thought something was horribly wrong but it really pairs well even with my 590s. Honestly the difference is subtle but if you have literally anything less than 590s in the 5 series I feel like the 520 is 100% adequate for anyone that does not have space for a tower behind a screen. This is just in my living room and I got it for $150 and absolutely keeping it.

I have refurb 290s on the way for my surrounds because of an insanely awesome deal last week and look forward to hearing how they sound even as mains since they have a mid-range. I'll probably break them in up front for a week before I move them back since they won't get broken in very well by being surrounds only.
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My 520 just showed up and HOLY CRAP is it a monster lol. When I saw 21lbs on the shipment I thought something was horribly wrong but it really pairs well even with my 590s. Honestly the difference is subtle but if you have literally anything less than 590s in the 5 series I feel like the 520 is 100% adequate for anyone that does not have space for a tower behind a screen. This is just in my living room and I got it for $150 and absolutely keeping it.



I have refurb 290s on the way for my surrounds because of an insanely awesome deal last week and look forward to hearing how they sound even as mains since they have a mid-range. I'll probably break them in up front for a week before I move them back since they won't get broken in very well by being surrounds only.

Nice! Mine is coming this week and like yourself it’s set up in my family room. Hell I don’t even run surrounds! My AVR is a Denon 4200w and don’t really turn it past -15. Yours?
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Nice! Mine is coming this week and like yourself it’s set up in my family room. Hell I don’t even run surrounds! My AVR is a Denon 4200w and don’t really turn it past -15. Yours?
x3400h here and my wife let's me turn it up to -5 if it's a really good movie The wife really loves the surround sounds even from a cheap $100 pair of Klipsch I purchased that are sitting uneven on the shelves right now. She has been begging me to get stands for like 3mo due to how they look right now unsightly in the living room and these 290s came up on crazy sale so I somehow snuck in approval seeing as $120 stands for $100 speakers made absolutely no sense

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Lol!

Let’s say my wife is not happy with the 530s up on wall mounts (I don’t have alternatives) as they replaced a recently purchased set of Emotiva B1s which are much smaller.

I may have to do some research on this Nvidia Shield thingamabob!
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ive been experimenting with front left/right 530s at 80/60 crossover
using hsu vtf2 mk5 subwoofer and 520c

not really noticing a difference so far. only an hour experimenting though.

anyone else with similar setup (530s as left and right, similar performing sub) have a preference regarding crossover?
i have the sub set for low bass extension for movies.
but i like the 530s bass when set to direct listening to music more than set to stereo with sub working
its tight, clean and punchy, im trying to take advantage of that
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ive been experimenting with front left/right 530s at 80/60 crossover
using hsu vtf2 mk5 subwoofer and 520c

not really noticing a difference so far. only an hour experimenting though.

anyone else with similar setup (530s as left and right, similar performing sub) have a preference regarding crossover?
i have the sub set for low bass extension for movies.
but i like the 530s bass when set to direct listening to music more than set to stereo with sub working
its tight, clean and punchy, im trying to take advantage of that
Set it to 80hz. Also set the LPF of your LFE to 80hz. And also the Xover on your Sub to 80hz, you'll get cleaner and better Midbass,if you don't like it just go back to the other settings.

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@mariogonzalezzz , it's a personal choice between what "they say" works best and what sounds best to you when experimenting with different options. If you notice enough difference between viewing movies and listening to music then you just have to decide if it's worth your effort to change the crossover point every time you switch between movies and music.
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Set it to 80hz. Also set the LPF of your LFE to 80hz. And also the Xover on your Sub to 80hz, you'll get cleaner and better Midbass,if you don't like it just go back to the other settings.

Skypop, HSU usually recommends crossover to "out" so you think a good idea to use the crossover on the back of the sub?
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Will the 590s be on sale again for July 4th?
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Newegg had them on sale.

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Skypop, HSU usually recommends crossover to "out" so you think a good idea to use the crossover on the back of the sub?
The method I suggested to you is known as Cascading Crossovers,it works very well for most situations,you can read up on it in the Subwoofer thread by @mthomas47 . If it doesn't suit you than you can go back to figuring out which Xover sounds best to you. The Cascading Xover method will help with your midbass and also increase the clarity of your center channel. The thread is called The Guide To Subwoofer Calibrations.
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The method I suggested to you is known as Cascading Crossovers,it works very well for most situations,you can read up on it in the Subwoofer thread by @mthomas47 . If it doesn't suit you than you can go back to figuring out which Xover sounds best to you. The Cascading Xover method will help with your midbass and also increase the clarity of your center channel. The thread is called The Guide To Subwoofer Calibrations.

Thank you. Already have my speakers all crossed at 80 hz as well as LPF/LFE to 80hz. I need to go out to in on the crossover on the back of sub and rotate the dial to 80 hz and try some reference material. My HT is only used for films however.

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Set it to 80hz. Also set the LPF of your LFE to 80hz. And also the Xover on your Sub to 80hz, you'll get cleaner and better Midbass,if you don't like it just go back to the other settings.
interesting, ill try it
im assuming when i try this method ill turn audyssey off?
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What receiver do you have? Is it capable of using the Audyssey App? If so, that opens possibilities for better sub integration for situations like yours. Start reading my posts here for more info: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/90-re...l#post58128832
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interesting, ill try it
im assuming when i try this method ill turn audyssey off?
You can turn it off or leave it on,I don't use Audessey in my Theater Room,I get better results by not handcuffing my 590's. Something to try,also read over at the Guide for Subwoofer Calibrations,lots of information that won't cost you a thing.

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interesting, ill try it
im assuming when i try this method ill turn audyssey off?

No, this won't interfere in any way with your Audyssey calibration. The effect will just be to keep subwoofer frequencies from creeping into content above your crossover. It accomplishes that by rolling-off the subs a little faster. It is especially effective at improving clarity in the center channel, for voices, if someone is using significant subwoofer boosts.

If you are looking for even more clarity, you might want to try turning-off DEQ, and increasing your independent subwoofer boost to compensate for that. All of these settings operate on a personal preference basis. Here is a direct link to the relevant section of the Guide:

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I am sure this has been asked but if you lower the crossover to 80hz on your sub want this cut off any lfe if it is above 80hz? Or is there not enough information above 80hz to worry about?
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I am sure this has been asked but if you lower the crossover to 80hz on your sub want this cut off any lfe if it is above 80hz? Or is there not enough information above 80hz to worry about?
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* The LFE channel, which exists only in 5.1 (or higher) movies and music, has it's own setting in our AVR's, called the LPF of LFE. Since the LFE channel is intended to contain bass content up to 120Hz, the typical setting for the LPF is 120Hz. And, that is the customary setting which most AVR's engage by default. However, a number of audio experts, including Mark Seaton and Roger Dressler (formerly with Dolby Labs and one of the creators of Pro logic II) believe that, it can make sense to experiment with lower LPF settings.

Some people have suggested that relatively little meaningful bass content is mixed into the LFE channel above about 80Hz, as the LFE channel is primarily intended to emphasize lower bass sounds and special effects. That may or may not be correct in general, although some film mixers have indicated that most of their meaningful LFE content is in the lower bass range. It would make sense for that to be the case, since the original Dolby/THX standard was for speakers to crossover to subwoofers at 80Hz, and the <80Hz frequencies were always the ones most commonly associated with subwoofers.

In some cases, setting a lower LPF might emphasize low-bass frequencies a little more, and might also result in slightly clearer bass. Since the LPF is simply a filter, which gradually attenuates volume levels, setting a lower LPF will not completely eliminate bass above the filter, but it will roll-off the higher bass content a little earlier. For instance, an LPF setting of 80Hz would roll-off the 100Hz frequencies by 6db, and the 120Hz frequencies by 12db. Doing that would provide relatively more emphasis to the low-bass frequencies, compared to the mid-bass frequencies. That is similar to, but probably more subtle than, approaching the bass from the bottom by lifting the lowest frequencies with a rising house curve.

Mark Seaton has made the point that the more someone is boosting his subwoofer(s), the more that an 80Hz LPF may be helpful in making the bass blend well with the speakers in an audio system. That would particularly be the case where someone was using 80Hz crossovers for the regular channels. Remember that a subwoofer boost lifts all of the bass frequencies symmetrically, in both the regular channels and in the LFE channel. Where significant subwoofer boosts are employed, the bass frequencies above 80Hz in the LFE channel (which are already 10db louder than the regular channels) might seem to stand out too much in comparison to the lower bass frequencies. Again, that might be more likely to be noticeable where 80Hz crossovers are employed for the regular channels.

Some people may notice a little more bass clarity, and a little greater concentration on the low-bass, with an 80Hz setting. Others may prefer the fuller mid-bass sound with the default 120Hz setting, or may perhaps prefer a compromise setting of 90Hz or 100Hz. The differences among the various settings are probably fairly subtle, depending on the listener, and which setting sounds better is strictly a user preference issue. Although AVR makers typically employ a default LPF setting of 120Hz, there is no absolute right or wrong way to use the LPF of LFE. (FWIW, I do think it is possible that a higher LPF setting might contribute to subwoofer localization, when bass-heavy 5.1 content is playing.)
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You can turn it off or leave it on,I don't use Audessey in my Theater Room,I get better results by not handcuffing my 590's. Something to try,also read over at the Guide for Subwoofer Calibrations,lots of information that won't cost you a thing.

I tried using the 80 hz crossover on the back of my VTF-3 MK5. I wasn't getting the same output. It's like it muted the sub somewhat in my room. Went back to what Dr. Hsu recommended post Audyssey. I think this is very dependent on each person's ears and their room in general. I've literally dialed my sub in by hand with the gain on the sub and the db in the AVR. Mine is dialed in until I add the 2nd one.



I'm also no fan of Audyssey sans distance and initial setup. It put my speakers to large (a no-no to me), crossed my 580's at like 40 or 60 hz (I forget which), crossed my surrounds and rears, and Atmos speakers incorrectly and I raised the db on my surrounds and rears to even them all out as Audyssey set them each differently. Good tool but not great, at least not to me.
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