Originally Posted by Vergiliusm
I took it in the way you intended, so no worries. I know of the thread you mean. In this thread, among other things, you were talking about physical time alignment, which I was hoping would lead into a discussion about general issues in the time domain. Most of the talk in any thread about measurements typically revolves around frequency response, and it is very important, especially if it includes more than just on-axis measurements. Time measurements like impulse and step responses are less common, harder to interpret for some, and there's not even complete agreement about their level of importance.
As for the other thread and issue, I'm sympathetic to your viewpoint. Ideally, a member should disclose if they've heard the speakers under discussion. I can understand deriving opinions from other peripheral information, because after all, we are into this more than the average person, but the usual disclaimers should apply. I think in most cases there's no malice intended.
But back to the Chane thread, I'm genuinely interested in what you and Jon wish to share about your viewpoints on the time domain, and I'm sure others are too.
Well, as for what will be shared right now, honestly not much. Lol.
However, the debate of its importance will soon change.
Too soon for details. But they will come.
As for no malice, i tend to agree. It just becomes difficult to logically accept when time and time again two speakers, both of which i have heard, receive solicitations for comment so that the solicitor can make a purchase decision.... then comments arrive, and the purchase decision gets made. Then i actually go back and READ the comments tendered and they're not representative of the real world.
Bearing in mind that I'm a professional audio and video forensic engineer, an expert witness on the subject of audio in court, and i finished my annual audiogram on Tuesday (no hearing loss, yay!), I have a better idea than most of what's going on in a loudspeaker just by listening. So when i see information that collides and contrasts with my extensive real world experience, my BS detector goes off. However, that happens all the time here on AVS. The alarm comes from the fact that, for the same reason that people cannot compare systems in a showroom, the person who buys the mildly flawed speaker vs the less mildly flawed one, THEY'LL NEVER KNOW what they left on the table.
There are lots of speakers I've heard that i don't talk about here on AVS for various reasons; with issues of professionalism and proximity being chief among them. But that means that when, say, a loudspeaker with a dry treble presentation and mediocre imaging at low to moderate volumes gets compared to another that has treble that isn't dry, with better imaging and much higher dynamic limits.... yet they're both called 'even' that tells me either the info is bad or the people tendering the opinion aren't listening properly (great Harman training on that subject, btw).
Either way, the consumer receives incorrect info and makes a purchase decision based off of that. Which should alarm everybody here. I know it alarms you, V. But it should alarm everybody.
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