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Any updates with respect to the on wall speakers?

The design is complete. Production should be late this year.
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Are the Chane A5s sensitivity listing right 90 (1 watt)and 92(2.83v)? Is that in-room or sound-treated Anechoic room?

Do owners find them to play that efficient/loud?

I am wondering since I can find no reviews with measurements and since the Chane bookshelf speakers are listed a lot lower.
Neither, actually, but for practical purposes assume it's the in-room figure. (Real rooms actually load speakers much differently than assumed, and I can't remember ever seeing a true anechoic figure out there.)

The A1.5 has substantially lower output because it's a third the acoustical size, has a higher impedance, and doesn't have the benefit of mutual floor loading the A5 floor speaker has. We'll probably lower the A5.5 to maybe 91dB shortly because it's a little different than the previous A5s. The A1.5 also uses a slightly different woofer, whereas the A2.4 and A5.5 can be more optimized for output because even with their multiple woofers they don't have to go any lower than the A1.5.

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I signed-up for the newsletter. Is there special early-bird pricing on the A5.5s? If so, is signing up for the newsletter all one needs to do to learn about any promotions like that?
Yes, the newsletter list covers it. Dates and costs publish there first.
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Speaking of which, I recently moved my MLP from ~15 feet away from the A5.4s, to about 8 feet away. I've since been listening to a lot of stereo music/TV with them, and I am astounded by the "phantom center" effect they deliver. Now that I'm closer to the ideal "triangle" type of layout, I could swear I have sound coming from directly in front of me, from my A2.4 center. I keep getting up to verify it is not on, and it isn't. The A5.4s just cast this incredible "wall of sound," to quote another Chane owner. I still have to rerun AccuEQ, but as-is, I'm doubly impressed compared to my old MLP.
My A5.4's are 13.5 feet apart and listening position is 13.5 feet back, and I agree with your observation. In fact I find the center fill so solid and believable that I run phantom center mode in my movie theater with L/R A5.4's and I get a huge center channel image, fantastic power and dynamics, seamless panning, and excellent dialogue clarity. Since I am often the only listener/viewer and sit in the center seat (and when my wife or family join they neither notice nor care about the nuances of audio reproduction) this works better for me then a dedicated center (I used a dedicated center speaker from a few top brands over the last dozen years).

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My A5.4's are 13.5 feet apart and listening position is 13.5 feet back, and I agree with your observation. In fact I find the center fill so solid and believable that I run phantom center mode in my movie theater with L/R A5.4's and I get a huge center channel image, fantastic power and dynamics, seamless panning, and excellent dialogue clarity. Since I am often the only listener/viewer and sit in the center seat (and when my wife or family join they neither notice nor care about the nuances of audio reproduction) this works better for me then a dedicated center (I used a dedicated center speaker from a few top brands over the last dozen years).

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Yes, my experiment already has me thinking...could I, too, go phantom center in the future? That would free up my solitary Chane A2.4 (my current center), which I could then pair up as surrounds or rears with my A1.5s...hmmm...if only I had another $280!
Is anything "lost" with a phantom center?
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Yes, my experiment already has me thinking...could I, too, go phantom center in the future? That would free up my solitary Chane A2.4 (my current center), which I could then pair up as surrounds or rears with my A1.5s...hmmm...if only I had another $280!
Is anything "lost" with a phantom center?
My Denon receiver (and I assume Onkyo and others but don't know for sure) sends the full center channel information to both the left and right speakers (each at -3db so that they sum to proper volume) so nothing is lost from the encoded center signal on the movie. To initiate this I set up the Denon as having no center speaker before I run Audyssey calibration. As with all things there is a compromise - listeners outside the center seat don't have as strongly anchored dialogue to the center of the screen, but I toe my A5.4's in a lot to help mitigate this and so in my room the listeners sitting on each side of the perfect center seat are still getting good anchoring of dialogue to the center of screen.

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Yes, my experiment already has me thinking...could I, too, go phantom center in the future? That would free up my solitary Chane A2.4 (my current center), which I could then pair up as surrounds or rears with my A1.5s...hmmm...if only I had another $280!
Is anything "lost" with a phantom center?
I do well without one, however, I don't have one to swap out for comparison.

Floyd Toole will say that there are timbral changes introduced by the phantom and that a real speaker is always better; even if music were 3.0 instead of 2.0 it would be better. With some speakers it's too expensive or it's too large to try; at least with Chane that's not a problem.
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I signed-up for the newsletter. Is there special early-bird pricing on the A5.5s? If so, is signing up for the newsletter all one needs to do to learn about any promotions like that?

They're inbound and the newsletter has been emailed.

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Do you think the Chane's need a sub specifically for music and light gaming? Looking at a phenomenal deal on the Infinity Reference Sub R10 which has great reviews for music.
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IMHO they don't for music. For movies and gaming yes...well no speaker can produce infrasonic frequencies. I would get a sub. Minimum would be $500 SVS PB1000, HSU, Rythmik...or if you really want to have awesome bass step it up to PSA and or JTR
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Chane web site currently down. Probably updating for the new A5.5.
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Chane web site currently down. Probably updating for the new A5.5.
Hopefully it's because he's adding the L7, L6 and other new lines to the site. I'm anxious to see what kind of reception this L series gets. I have high expectations.
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New look Chane site back up. A5.5 now available on pre-order, but no mention of L6, L7, A4.5, or any of the other products in the pipeline.

https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/
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Does anyone have one of these? https://www.chanemusiccinema.com/ind...product_id=153
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For mostly Classic Rock, some Classical and Jazz, and other rock/pop music of 80s, 90s, 2000s etc, would the 5.5s need a subwoofer or would 5.5s, alone, be able to cover full range, without missing anything, for those type of music?
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For mostly Classic Rock, some Classical and Jazz, and other rock/pop music of 80s, 90s, 2000s etc, would the 5.5s need a subwoofer or would 5.5s, alone, be able to cover full range, without missing anything, for those type of music?
This will help you identify what you may or may not be missing ... and if it's important enough for you to invest in a sub:

http://www.guitarbuilding.org/wp-con...d-EQ-Chart.pdf
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This will help you identify what you may or may not be missing ... and if it's important enough for you to invest in a sub:

http://www.guitarbuilding.org/wp-con...d-EQ-Chart.pdf

Thanks. Where will the 5.5s probably roll-off.. around 50hz?
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Thanks. Where will the 5.5s probably roll-off.. around 50hz?
Your guess is as good as mine. Until they publish the specs, it would only be speculation.
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All three models spec into the 40's, and hundreds of all three are being used for 2.0. Some would rate them into the 30's, but I'm using the technical cutoff without the room.

They're well suited for everything above the very bottom octave.

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It's a purpose-built 18" Eminence pro woofer in a heavy MDF cabinet finished in commercial speaker pebble black. It'll deliver 100dB+ @20hz . Power and EQ them as desired. 100# pallet-shipped.
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Quick note on the A1.5:

These are easily the best 5" stand monitor in the sub $500/pair price class. Real refinement. Real imaging and texture. Real tone colors. Real detail retrieval. Ethereal delicacy up top with actual dynamics down low.

It's still bound by the laws of physics, which means it plays by the same rules as any other 5" class stand monitor of equivalent acoustical displacement.

But, boy howdy it really has a chip on its shoulder; don't tell the A1.5's they aren't a 6" class thing. They certainly think so.




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Quick note on the A1.5:

These are easily the best 5" stand monitor in the sub $500/pair price class. Real refinement. Real imaging and texture. Real tone colors. Real detail retrieval. Ethereal delicacy up top with actual dynamics down low.

It's still bound by the laws of physics, which means it plays by the same rules as any other 5" class stand monitor of equivalent acoustical displacement.

But, boy howdy it really has a chip on its shoulder; don't tell the A1.5's they aren't a 6" class thing. They certainly think so.
The A1.5 really are amazing.

what are they sitting on?
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Quick note on the A1.5:

These are easily the best 5" stand monitor in the sub $500/pair price class. Real refinement. Real imaging and texture. Real tone colors. Real detail retrieval. Ethereal delicacy up top with actual dynamics down low.
Couldn't agree more. I can't stop singing their praises. I have to watch myself as I don't want to start appearing like a shill. I just can't find any shortcomings compared to anything else even remotely close in price. IMO, you'd have to spend at least double to start getting any real competition.
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Still using the A1.5's with a A2.4 center and they do sound great. I use them with two pb-2000's which blends nicely to fill in any bass that may be missing for movies. I am going to pick up the new chane towers and use the A1.5's for surround duty but they are some nice bookshelf speakers.
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Couldn't agree more. I can't stop singing their praises. I have to watch myself as I don't want to start appearing like a shill. I just can't find any shortcomings compared to anything else even remotely close in price. IMO, you'd have to spend at least double to start getting any real competition.


It’s not shilling when you’ve heard every major competing model under $500. Like me. Then it’s just an educated observation.

Besides, you’re already ahead of many on AVS who enjoy talking about Chane stuff without having heard it at all. Lol.


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Quick note on the A1.5:

These are easily the best 5" stand monitor in the sub $500/pair price class. Real refinement. Real imaging and texture. Real tone colors. Real detail retrieval. Ethereal delicacy up top with actual dynamics down low.

It's still bound by the laws of physics, which means it plays by the same rules as any other 5" class stand monitor of equivalent acoustical displacement.

But, boy howdy it really has a chip on its shoulder; don't tell the A1.5's they aren't a 6" class thing. They certainly think so.

Are they actually better than the A2.4's?

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Originally Posted by rossandwendy View Post
Are they actually better than the A2.4's?



Ross


They’re damn near equal WHEN played within their acoustical limits. The A2.4 stays sweeter, louder. But, in smaller rooms, the A1.5’s are just damn good.

They image like nobody’s business, just like the A2.4. Silly stuff floating all over the room. But they focus super tightly as well.

The speakers they’re sitting on top of are using Italian compression drivers that have a raw cost that nearly equals the retail price of the A1.5’s, and the A1.5’s hold their dam own.

As with all Jon’s stuff, they just never put a foot wrong. Rap to rock, electronica to classical, new retro wave to jazz. They do everything well. Really refined presentation for their price point.


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