Originally Posted by dwgncat
How many of you use the LS50's in L/C/R and even with surrounds for H/T? There is not a dealer in our area so I'm trying to gauge if this is the way I want to go or LS50's or R300's with R600c/R200c.
Building a new H/T area in the basement so it's a clean slate. So far, I only have a Marantz AV8802 and no multi-channel amp yet. Mostly movies and occasionally 70's, 80's and 90's rock/classic rock for music.
This is long post, but I finally think I have something to contribute to the discussion, and wanted to give back a fraction of what I have gained reading this thread.
First, Thanks to all on this thread for the great information you provide. I'm grateful to you all for your knowlege and good info shared here. I have not posted in a very long time, but I needed to thank everyone and the attached post motivated me to answer with my recent experience. I just completed the upgrade of my 5.1 system over the last four months. Here's what I did with your information.
First my background is 50+ yrs of 2.x Audio, 1st amp:Scott Tube, 20w at 12yrs old used from the original, one and only the time; Seattle Magnolia Hi-Fi. I love audio and video, play records, tape, cassette, video both recording(starting w/½ reel tape, to Hi-8, VHS, and Laserdisk, DVDmovies. (Info Sys/Engr. career) I research before listen, before purchase at B&M store when possible.
Some background about the room first, then description of new sys, and conclusions about sound quality.
1. The HT room is our family room and library, effective size is 12x15 with full depth floor to ceiling bookcases (full) on 2.5 walls, open to the kitchen (short side) with large window opposite the long wall bookshelves. Ceiling is flat, 8.5' high. Closed short side wall has fireplace with plasma screen in it and center spkr under on raised brick hearth. Two MLPs 9-10 feet away from panel, and couch under window for two off axis visitors.
2. The old system was: mains EQ'd Kef 102 ref., M&K small rear surrounds, and Def Tech Center & Sub. Driven by Yamaha RX-V1000, multiple sources. Serviceable system, but way, way out of date.
3. Decision to upgrade at retirement enabled me to update main components. Target system is 6.1.2 for now. Small room, compromised placement. After research here and listening at B&M, I wound up with 5 LS50s. Purchased 1st pair fm B&M (sounded very good on old amp), then another pair w/ ctr. single from Kef Direct per their online sale. So, LS50 main L/C/R, Rear L/R. I repurposed the old Def Tech center (early C2002) to rear presence (single centered). I repurposed the Kef 102s (front ported) as Front Presence speakers (no EQ), high in bookshelves behind the L/C/R mains. The mains left and right are on Sanus 26" stands (sand filled) with at least 24" behind the port w/L24" and R19" side space, stands and placement are compromise, (dealer threw stands in free with purchase.
). The LS50 center is now immediately under the 55" PioElite-Plasma (1080i) panel with unused empty fireplace firebox behind, also about 24" open behind. The center is horizontal and a bit pulled forward. It is low, about 20" on ctr. from floor. No bungs in any of the ports.
4. WAF liked sound of first two LS50s, and loved the colored cones (all piano black with 'rose' cones). So was approved to move ahead. Next on agenda, replace antique AVR. In comes new Yamaha (my forth in 50 yrs) the RX-A3060. Wow. Major improvement over old AVR. Power about doubled per channel. Supports all the new hardware, so also added Oppo 203, replacing antique ES Sony DVD. Added a harmony remote and some new UHD/BD material to test based on forum top ten list.
5. Hooked up new presence and L/C/R speakers with custom length Kimber Cable (banana plugs both ends) really good quality and reasonable cost. A major improvement over large lamp cord in previous setup. Some wrinkles: SVHS jog shuttle VHS deck had no HDMI out, so purchased converter from B&H to handle conversion to HDMI. Only one phono port, so second phono deck is yet not connected. Laser Player is switched through the SVHS deck to save a converter box.
6. How does it Sound. My Oh My. It is wonderful. I am now one of the folks with 5 LS50 who are insanely happy with their system. The Yamaha YPAO set up the room well, the Def Tech sub-woofer is adequate for now, and pulling all duty below 80hz. We've been listening for about three weeks, and the speakers are almost broken in. They sound seamless across the L/C/R front, and pans are very clean. The surround integration is also very good. The old speakers still in service now with lighter duty support the sound field well. "The Revenant" atmospherics translated exteremely well, making me want to add a couple more presence and wish I had a room good for Atmos.
I am partial to Jazz, and Classic Rock, with some Big Band and Classical, mostly streamed, but with a large vinyl collection and much tape still not converted, I am using all types of inputs.
I you like accuracy, and realize that with the LS50s, it is GIGO to use an old computing term. Garbage in Garbage out. The great mixes and movies sound fabulous, and the poor mixes, not so much. The Yami DSP can help some, but the LS50s don't tolerate poor content well. I listen to about 50/50 music and video, and appreciate hearing what's in the content. This system is future proof from my perspective. My old Kefs have been running since the '80s. I expect these new boxes to last just as long.
I have had great support from all suppliers both before and after sale. To this Forum and the Yamaha forum. Many thanks. I'll keep lurking and learning appreciating all you folks are contributing.
Your comments and suggestions are welcome.