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Yea its weird, i figured that if its set to "large" LS50s would go full range while the sub kicks in at the crossover setting. I suppose i can test it with some test tones. It sets the surrounds (smaller 4.5" Energy Veritas vminis) to "small"

I could always set the crossover to 80hz and and set them to small. That or 100hz cuz the AVR is an entry level AVR might be better to save the hard stuff for the sub.
Please check the Pioneer manual on what they mean when a speaker is set to "large" or "small". Generally when speakers are set to:

LARGE = no bass management
SMALL = bass management with crossover setting

One can verify this by sending band limited pink noise an octave above and below the crossover to check if bass management has been enabled.

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I've been using our racing red LS50s for stereo in the living room. As part of decluttering, I removed the sub manager and all the cables associated with running the pair of subs. Today I replaced the Cary Cinema 12 processor with an Ayre K-5xeMP preamp. It gave me new respect for the sound available with LS50s. From reviews. I expected the sound with the preamp to be more tube-like and a bit smoother, but I didn't expect the improvement I got. The LF extension especially is a surprise; I don't miss the subs at all. I always thought the LS50s were good, I just didn't realize how good!

Sources are an Oppo BDP-105 and Sony HAP-Z1ES, amp is a 30-year-old Proceed Amp 2, all balanced connections.

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Go for the LS50. I have a single LS50 that I am willing to ship
I'll give you $550.00 for the single LS50 if you pay shipping.
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I have a single KEF LS50 for sale (used as center speaker). Original owner, excellent condition, asking $550 plus shipping. It is the one with the orange driver. PM. me. I will try to post on the classified.

Located in socal for pickup (91741).
If you still have it will give you $525.00 if you pay shipping
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I just switched to a Parasound A 21 from an A 23 to drive a pair of LS50s, and it improved the sound. The LS50s are crossed at 80 Hz to a pair of self-powered subs, Velodyne HGS-10s with SMS-1 bass manager. My impression is that the LS50s seem sensitive to amps. I doubt amps in an AVR equal the A 23. I suspect an A 31 would be a good choice for driving LCR LS50s.

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I drive my LS50s with the A23 and can't imagine I would hear any difference going to the A21. The A23 has more than enough headroom to drive the LS50s at the levels I prefer. The A21 would be overkill for me. I'm not into spending more than I need to get the same sound.
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I drive my LS50s with the A23 and can't imagine I would hear any difference going to the A21. The A23 has more than enough headroom to drive the LS50s at the levels I prefer. The A21 would be overkill for me. I'm not into spending more than I need to get the same sound.
I had an A21 I recently sold and I have a pair of A23s I use for surrounds. I've used both A21 and A 23 to drive the LS50s. There just seems to be more there there with the A21. So I think you would hear a difference, but whether it's worth the added cost only you could decide. If I were deciding, I'd go with the A21.

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Hi,

Has anyone tried running LS50 using Yamaha R-N602 for 2 channel audio set up?

I already have that receiver with entry level speaker and want to upgrade speakers to LS50 but don't have budgets for receiver. Would my Yamaha be good enough for LS50? Thanks.


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Has anyone tried running LS50 using Yamaha R-N602 for 2 channel audio set up?

I already have that receiver with entry level speaker and want to upgrade speakers to LS50 but don't have budgets for receiver. Would my Yamaha be good enough for LS50? Thanks.


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I wouldn't let your Yamaha receiver deter you from the LS50s at all. Especially with LS50's price coming down, you will be hard pressed to do better with a stand mount speaker. When you can upgrade your receiver, it will only get even better.
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Hi guys,

I changed my amp from Harman Kardon 3390 to Cambridge Audio CXA80 and I want to share my thoughts with you:

CXA80 is clearly superior with sound stage, definition, has so much more power and control that the HK and the built quality is excellent. The thing where it is failing is bass. There is some shallow, week bass imitation that is no where near the bass LS50 produce with 3390.
It starting to bug me more and more, so I'm thinking of selling cxa80 even though it's a pretty and very functional device.

Does anyone have user experiences for Naim (5si, 5i-2) and LS50 combo?
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Hi guys,

I changed my amp from Harman Kardon 3390 to Cambridge Audio CXA80 and I want to share my thoughts with you:

CXA80 is clearly superior with sound stage, definition, has so much more power and control that the HK and the built quality is excellent. The thing where it is failing is bass. There is some shallow, week bass imitation that is no where near the bass LS50 produce with 3390.
You're dealing with integrated amps in which the preamp section can strongly influence the sound you hear. I recently replaced a Cary Cinema 12 processor with an Ayre K-5xeMP preamp to use with a Proceed Amp 2 until I get an Ayre VX-5 Twenty amp. The low end extension of the LS50s with the Ayre was surprising. Ideally you might try integrated amps with your LS50s until you find one you like. I'd be inclined to start with the Parasound Halo. I like to buy cost-effective used components.

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I had an A21 I recently sold and I have a pair of A23s I use for surrounds. I've used both A21 and A 23 to drive the LS50s. There just seems to be more there there with the A21. So I think you would hear a difference, but whether it's worth the added cost only you could decide. If I were deciding, I'd go with the A21.

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Or save yourself some money and buy Monoprice Monolith the case is not as nice but I defy anyone to say it is not as good as Parasound!

I owned Parasound Halo years ago, if they would go direct they could cut the price in half
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Or save yourself some money and buy Monoprice Monolith the case is not as nice but I defy anyone to say it is not as good as Parasound!

I owned Parasound Halo years ago, if they would go direct they could cut the price in half
I believe those Monolith amps are built by ATI. They make good amps!

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I picked up a new A/V stand for my system. The speakers are now just over 7' apart and the system is sounding much better. I've also switched to the Blue Circle BC-24 from the Rotel RB-1070 to drive the speakers, and that provided a significant upgrade as well! The speakers are sitting on Auralex Mopad XL's on a 4 degree incline pointing directly at ear level.



I'm patiently awaiting delivery of my LH Labs Vi DAC Tube ∞ (50/50 if it ever arrives) and I'll add a 2 channel preamp once I get shipping notification on the DAC. Thinking maybe a Sonic Frontiers Line 2 (SE+ upgrades) or Wyred4Sound STP-SE (with upgrades). Ayre is also interesting me since reading about how good one of their preamps is working out for someone in this thread.

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I picked up a new A/V stand for my system. The speakers are now just over 7' apart and the system is sounding much better. I've also switched to the Blue Circle BC-24 from the Rotel RB-1070 to drive the speakers, and that provided a significant upgrade as well! The speakers are sitting on Auralex Mopad XL's on a 4 degree incline pointing directly at ear level.



I'm patiently awaiting delivery of my LH Labs Vi DAC Tube ∞ (50/50 if it ever arrives) and I'll add a 2 channel preamp once I get shipping notification on the DAC. Thinking maybe a Sonic Frontiers Line 2 (SE+ upgrades) or Wyred4Sound STP-SE (with upgrades). Ayre is also interesting me since reading about how good one of their preamps is working out for someone in this thread.
I really like the looks of your setup. If that's a commercially available stand, who's the manufacturer/supplier? I like it better than the one I designed and had built. I'm using an Ayre K-5xeMP with LS50s in a stereo setup. The amp is a fine Proceed Amp 2, but next month I hope to replace it with an Ayre VX-5 Twenty. Then I'll move my Ayre C-5xeMP disc player to the living room to have an all-Ayre balanced setup. (After extensive listening, I've decided the Esoteric SA-60 can replace the C-5 and serve as both the stereo and surround disc player on the media room.)

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Hi,

I currently have the kef ls50 with a denon x3300w. While I do like the sound now, I have the feeling that I'am not using the kefs at their full potential.

What would be my options for improving the sound? I run them with a svs pb2000 and I do plan to add another sub in the future. The kefs will be used 50/50 music/home cinema.

Thanks!

I own at X3300w and I just bought LS50 speakers. I'm expecting them to sound great with the X3300W. In this review: http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/KE...dspeaker.shtml
the low end Denon AVR-591 was tested with the LS50 and did fine and the 3300 is significantly more powerful.

"At the bottom end, I drove the LS50s with a Denon AVR-591 receiver ($400), Rega Brio-R integrated amplifier ($895) and an Anthem MRX-500 AV receiver which retails for slightly under $1,500.

The $400 Denon didn't humiliate itself at all which told me a few things about the LS50; it's easy to drive, it sounds excellent with a wide range of products, and you don't need to go crazy and spend $5,000 on an amplifier to get great sound out of them.

Unless you lean toward overly clinical solid state amplification, with sharp ultra-defined high frequencies, you won't be disappointed."


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The LS50 can be a very different speaker based on amplification.

Initially I had them paired with a Parasound Halo A23 (using a Benchmark DAC2 HGC as a preamp) and wasn't thrilled with their sound. That amp was rated at 125W @ 8ohms, Class A/B.

I lived with them paired with a McIntosh MA6300 integrated amp and was pleased with the results. This was rated at 100W @ 8ohms, Class A/B.

I just received a pair of active LS50Ws a little over a week ago. The difference is astounding. They're pumping 230W from four monoblocks wired directly to the drivers using DSP to keep everything hunky-dory. The woofers get 200W of Class D and the tweeters 30W of Class A/B. THIS is how KEF wanted the LS50 to sound and it sounds like a different speaker.

Your passive LS50s will tell you more about the sound of your Denon than you've ever known. Whether or not you like what you hear only matters to you.
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The LS50 can be a very different speaker based on amplification.

Initially I had them paired with a Parasound Halo A23 (using a Benchmark DAC2 HGC as a preamp) and wasn't thrilled with their sound. That amp was rated at 125W @ 8ohms, Class A/B.

I lived with them paired with a McIntosh MA6300 integrated amp and was pleased with the results. This was rated at 100W @ 8ohms, Class A/B.

I just received a pair of active LS50Ws a little over a week ago. The difference is astounding. They're pumping 230W from four monoblocks wired directly to the drivers using DSP to keep everything hunky-dory. The woofers get 200W of Class D and the tweeters 30W of Class A/B. THIS is how KEF wanted the LS50 to sound and it sounds like a different speaker.

Your passive LS50s will tell you more about the sound of your Denon than you've ever known. Whether or not you like what you hear only matters to you.
It's not as simple as just Watts/channel either. I'm much happier with the sound of my system with my Blue Circle BC 24 (80 watts/channel) driving the LS50's than I was with my Rotel RB-1070 (120 watts/channel) driving them. It's better from top to bottom even though it has less power.

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Interesting that KEF split the power between the tweeter to low frequency drivers by a factor of 6.6:1 whilst maintaining the same peak SPL of 106dB. KEF is providing 200W to drive the LF and get down to 45Hz, which is -3dB point with more bass extension settings. This is a lot more power compared to the passive LS50 which are rated for 79Hz (-3dB point). Would be interested to know what the THD figures are for 45Hz more bass extension setting on the LS50W, it wont be pretty.

Would like to know how analogue signals sound when fed into the LS50W. I.e. if there's an A-->D-->A conversion happening? Guessing there must be as the DSP will determine the split between the HF/LF active bi-amping incorporated into the design.

For those who can't afford the actively powered LS50, take note that the external amp used to drive these speakers needs to be rated for 4 ohms nominal load due to the minimum impedance of 3.2 Ohms specified by KEF.
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Is my AVR really hamstringing my LS50 LCR Front Soundstage for my Home Theater? Here are the manufacturer's specs:

Pioneer VSX-824k (5.1 80w per channels)


Watts per Channel (20Hz-20kHz,.08%[email protected] 2ch Driven) 80 Watts
Watts per Channel (1kHz,1%[email protected] 1ch Driven) 140 Watts

I know the LS50 goes down to 4ohm at lower frequencies, but i have my SVS PB1000 sub crossed over at 80hz. Max listening volume is around 50-55% on the dial (goes from 0-80).

Found a used Rotel RMB 1085, which is a 5x100wpc class D amplifier

All channels driven, with 20kHz filter,
8 ohm load, 20Hz to 20kHz, <0.2% THD: 100 watts
4 ohm load, 1kHz, <1% THD: 180 watts

Total Harmonic Distortion At rated power, 20Hz-20kHz: < 0.2%
At one-half rated power, 20Hz-20kHz: < 0.03%
At 1 watt per channel, 20Hz-20kHz: < 0.03%

Intermodulation Distortion
at rated power, 60Hz: 7 kHz, 4:1: < 0.03%
Damping Factor (8 ohms): 200

For $490CAD, about $360USD.

It would mean i would need to get a pre-processor as well though.

What do you guys think? This is for 60% movies, 20% tv, 20% music
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I really like the looks of your setup. If that's a commercially available stand, who's the manufacturer/supplier? I like it better than the one I designed and had built. I'm using an Ayre K-5xeMP with LS50s in a stereo setup. The amp is a fine Proceed Amp 2, but next month I hope to replace it with an Ayre VX-5 Twenty. Then I'll move my Ayre C-5xeMP disc player to the living room to have an all-Ayre balanced setup. (After extensive listening, I've decided the Esoteric SA-60 can replace the C-5 and serve as both the stereo and surround disc player on the media room.)

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Thanks. The stand is nothing "audiophile" or fancy in any way. I just looked for the widest stand I could find to get the speakers some separation.

83" Innovex A/V Stand

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The LS50 can be a very different speaker based on amplification.

Initially I had them paired with a Parasound Halo A23 (using a Benchmark DAC2 HGC as a preamp) and wasn't thrilled with their sound. That amp was rated at 125W @ 8ohms, Class A/B.

I lived with them paired with a McIntosh MA6300 integrated amp and was pleased with the results. This was rated at 100W @ 8ohms, Class A/B.

I just received a pair of active LS50Ws a little over a week ago. The difference is astounding. They're pumping 230W from four monoblocks wired directly to the drivers using DSP to keep everything hunky-dory. The woofers get 200W of Class D and the tweeters 30W of Class A/B. THIS is how KEF wanted the LS50 to sound and it sounds like a different speaker.

Your passive LS50s will tell you more about the sound of your Denon than you've ever known. Whether or not you like what you hear only matters to you.
Bill,
Now that you've have them running. Have you run them integrated with your passive LS50s in HT setup?
I just heard a pair of LS50Ws at the hifi store yesterday, and was amazed by the quality of the sound. The hooked me up to hi-res Tidal feed, sounded great, duh. After they left room I switched it to my iPhone. A little Ella and Joe, wow. Wish I had those in college back in the day.

Anyway currently have a 6.1.2 setup (5 LS50s) and thinking of the Ws for fronts set large, and retiring my rear speakers, old Kef 102 refs, moving a pair LS50s to rear duty in my HT setup. They have only the one set of analog ins, but I'm thinking they would meld well, and be great for the two channel listening.

BTW, the store does not leave them in the listening room hooked up. The move them to a shelf toward the back of the store. I thought that was pretty funny.

Anyway your comments would be very helpful.
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Now that you've have them running. Have you run them integrated with your passive LS50s in HT setup?
I just heard a pair of LS50Ws at the hifi store yesterday, and was amazed by the quality of the sound. The hooked me up to hi-res Tidal feed, sounded great, duh. After they left room I switched it to my iPhone. A little Ella and Joe, wow. Wish I had those in college back in the day.

Anyway currently have a 6.1.2 setup (5 LS50s) and thinking of the Ws for fronts set large, and retiring my rear speakers, old Kef 102 refs, moving a pair LS50s to rear duty in my HT setup. They have only the one set of analog ins, but I'm thinking they would meld well, and be great for the two channel listening.

BTW, the store does not leave them in the listening room hooked up. The move them to a shelf toward the back of the store. I thought that was pretty funny.

Anyway your comments would be very helpful.
I have not. I swapped out my beloved 50th Anniversary originals about a year ago for a pair of B&W N805s.

That sounds like a sweet surround setup that'd be quite good for stereo listening!

It's a shame but I think that many dealers will do as yours did and primarily display them as more of a lifestyle product, which admittedly is a big part of the market that they're after. But IMO these do qualify as the good enough to be the heart and soul of a bonafide 2-channel setup.

And yes @steveting99 , they do digitize the incoming analog signal since they're truly active speakers with the crossover being handled digitally.
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I have not. I swapped out my beloved 50th Anniversary originals about a year ago for a pair of B&W N805s.

That sounds like a sweet surround setup that'd be quite good for stereo listening!

It's a shame but I think that many dealers will do as yours did and primarily display them as more of a lifestyle product, which admittedly is a big part of the market that they're after. But IMO these do qualify as the good enough to be the heart and soul of a bonafide 2-channel setup.

And yes @steveting99 , they do digitize the incoming analog signal since they're truly active speakers with the crossover being handled digitally.
Thanks Bill, understand. It listens just fine, but oh those LS50Ws. Took about 30 seconds to hook up the phone, and then amazing. But A/B listening to the Tidal feed reveals that phones aren't HiFi, just supurb 'walkmen'.

Anyone tried to use the LS50Ws in a surround setup yet?

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I've switched from the passive kefs ls50 to the wireless. When watching a movie I connect them to a receiver with a subwoofer. The downside is that you need to match the db to the db's of the other speakers. I only need to match them to the subwoofer, but I guess with a 5.1 set up it's not that much different. But this only takes a minute with a SPL meter, just set the receiver to 0 db and then increase the volume of the kefs to match the other speakers. The results are well worth it.
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The LS50 can be a very different speaker based on amplification. Initially I had them paired with a Parasound Halo A23 (using a Benchmark DAC2 HGC as a preamp) and wasn't thrilled with their sound. That amp was rated at 125W @ 8ohms, Class A/B. I lived with them paired with a McIntosh MA6300 integrated amp and was pleased with the results. This was rated at 100W @ 8ohms, Class A/B.

I just received a pair of active LS50Ws a little over a week ago. The difference is astounding. They're pumping 230W from four monoblocks wired directly to the drivers using DSP to keep everything hunky-dory. The woofers get 200W of Class D and the tweeters 30W of Class A/B. THIS is how KEF wanted the LS50 to sound and it sounds like a different speaker......
I what way can you explain I have been looking at the LS50 active as well very tempted! First I might need to sell all the others I have seven of them
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Bill, Now that you've have them running. Have you run them integrated with your passive LS50s in HT setup? I just heard a pair of LS50Ws at the hifi store yesterday, and was amazed by the quality of the sound. The hooked me up to hi-res Tidal feed, sounded great, duh. After they left room I switched it to my iPhone. A little Ella and Joe, wow. Wish I had those in college back in the day.

Anyway currently have a 6.1.2 setup (5 LS50s) and thinking of the Ws for fronts set large, and retiring my rear speakers, old Kef 102 refs, moving a pair LS50s to rear duty in my HT setup. They have only the one set of analog ins, but I'm thinking they would meld well, and be great for the two channel listening..
I also have a 7.2.4 with 7 KEF LS50 passive I have been think to get the active ones as well for the front

I am not surprised the leave the LS50W in the back of the room as they might sell more of them and not enough passive speakers, amps and preamps!
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I what way can you explain I have been looking at the LS50 active as well very tempted! First I might need to sell all the others I have seven of them
It's tough to put my finger on a good descriptor this early into my time with them. If I had to choose one adjective it might be - effortless. They just seem to willingly lay MORE of what's in the recording out there for you to enjoy. Part of it is due to them extending deeper and I'd like to think a lot has to do with KEF being able to precisely control the drivers from every aspect.

The other thing that makes it hard for me, and possibly somewhat inaccurate, is that it's been nearly a year since my time with the passives. The LS50 is a very different speaker from the B&W N805. It was an adjustment going from the LS50 to the B&Ws and it was an adjustment moving from the B&Ws to the LS50Ws. The difference this time was that the KEFs felt and sounded familiar. It was that LS50 sound I had grown accustomed to over the years but more coherent.

I feel there's been a significant step up in accuracy as well. Cycling through albums both old and new and across different genre's easily exposed the differences in recording quality.
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I what way can you explain I have been looking at the LS50 active as well very tempted! First I might need to sell all the others I have seven of them
I've switched directly from the passive to the wireless kef ls50's. Like Bill_B4 mentioned, the adjective effortless describes them very well. I feel like the actives improved all the good perks the passive ls50's had. (difference might be bigger for me, since I connected the passives to a denon x3300) The biggest difference like mentioned before is in the lower end. Where my old passive ls50's sounded a bit dull without subwoofer, the actives don't realy need a sub for music. When playing movies in a rather large room with a subwoofer ( 20x20x10 ft ), it feels like the actives hold their own better.
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Hey.. so I'm a noob in the world of loudspeakers.. My first and current setup is KRK Rokit 5s studio monitors with a Dayton SUB-1200 connected to a Micca OriGen+. I've had this setup for almost a year now and I'm thinking of upgrading. The LS50s have caught my eye and I'm not sure if they're the right choice or not. These would be mostly used for music but from time to time movies/tv. I mostly listen to hip-hop/rap/edm but enjoy many other genres. I do enjoy a warm sound. My setup is in a small room currently, but I do switch my setup to larger rooms sometimes. I'm really not sure abou what is needed for loudspeakers. I assume a amp + DAC is a must? Or is the amp only required? Of course if the wireless LS50s fit in my budget I'd get them but unfortunately they're not in the budget right now. Someone local is currently selling a pair for $1000 CAD, says they're in excellent condition and have been used for a year. Would the NAD D3020 pair well with the LS50s? I plan on using these speakers for years to come. I'm 19 yr old student who hopes these will last me through my 20s lol. I'm just looking for some guidance into the world of loudspeakers or should I just stick to studio monitors... Any help is appreciated
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