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Not to throw a monkey wrench into this whole thing because I love RSL speakers but SVS has a new line of speakers coming out, the Pinnacle series I believe. It's between prime and Ultra. I can't wait to see some reviews of them.

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Not to throw a monkey wrench into this whole thing because I love RSL speakers but SVS has a new line of speakers coming out, the Pinnacle series I believe. It's between prime and Ultra. I can't wait to see some reviews of them.

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Um yeah I know but the guy was asking about RSL and SVS speakers. I think it was fair to post what I did.

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Um yeah I know but the guy was asking about RSL and SVS speakers. I think it was fair to post what I did.

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My SB-3000 is rated at 18-270Hz ± 3 dB and the crossover panel on the sub shows 140Hz and LFE a bit after.

Have you had a chance to listen to both Primes and CG23/3s?
I believe you would be happy with either setup and having dealer support nearby is good. Just based on reviews the RSL are probably a better overall speaker for music. The CG23 should be pretty comparable in mid bass output to the Prime bookshelf over 100hz.

Even if you go with the primes I would still use a crossover of at least 100hz. I use 100 for my mains (towers) and 120 for the other speakers.

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I believe you would be happy with either setup and having dealer support nearby is good. Just based on reviews the RSL are probably a better overall speaker for music. The CG23 should be pretty comparable in mid bass output to the Prime bookshelf over 100hz.

Even if you go with the primes I would still use a crossover of at least 100hz. I use 100 for my mains (towers) and 120 for the other speakers.
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Anyone know what the CG3 updates are all about? The website mentions they're updating them to match the CG5 line...
Good question. My impression is that they will now be available in white, like the 5 Series. I would guess that they may also have the new faceplate configuration. Will there be any internal changes? Who knows? Might just be a face lift only. I would be stunned if they got the new CG5 tweeter. Highly doubtful.

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Good Morning RSL owners,

My HTR is getting insulated and drywalled over the next 2 weeks. I'm just wrapping up wiring, connections and ordering equipment. I'm using 3 CG23's across the front, two CG3's for the back. Will be ordering the ATMOS in ceiling speakers and the sub in the next month or so. Denon X3400H driving. My room is 14x13.

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What Speaker Wire to run for the RSL Sub? Also, any noticeable differences between speaker wire for the room? I just plan to run 12 Ga around the room for these RSL Speakers?

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Any 12 gauge wire should work for you. I use 14 in my room with no problems. Monoprice has good prices and I am not sure if RSL is still selling speaker wire but I remember it was fairly reasonably priced.
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Good Morning RSL owners,

My HTR is getting insulated and drywalled over the next 2 weeks. I'm just wrapping up wiring, connections and ordering equipment. I'm using 3 CG23's across the front, two CG3's for the back. Will be ordering the ATMOS in ceiling speakers and the sub in the next month or so. Denon X3400H driving. My room is 14x13.

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What Speaker Wire to run for the RSL Sub? Also, any noticeable differences between speaker wire for the room? I just plan to run 12 Ga around the room for these RSL Speakers?

Thanks in advance

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Couple of thoughts re your questions.

First, you will not run a speaker wire to the sub (assuming you are talking about the RSL Speedwoofer 10s, or any other powered subwoofer). You will be running a low-level cable with RCA connectors from the sub out on your receiver to the LFE in on the sub.

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Second, lower bass frequencies are very difficult to get right when using a single sub in any room. There will be lots of peaks and nulls which can only be resolved by altering the position of the sub and/or the seating position. Predetermining the position of the sub is almost always a mistake, as the odds of that position being the right one are slim. What you can do is to pre-wire a few options. For instance, you will be running wire to the back / sides of the room, so run an rca there too. That will allow you to position the sub anywhere on the front (directly to the receiver) or side / rear walls (via wall plate connectors). Then you can feel pretty confident that wherever the sub sounds best, you will be able to easily connect it.

Here is what you would need (or similar) in the wall to connect the sub:

https://www.amazon.com/VCE-2-Pack-Co...SIN=B078RBJRX2

An RCA cable would connect the backs of these plates, one behind the receiver and one behind the sub. Multiple connector in the front, single connector at each of the side / rear walls.

One other benefit is if you ever decide to add another sub, the connectors will already be available.

If you are going all in-wall / in-ceiling, you can use something like this behind the receiver (note it already has two sub connectors).

https://www.amazon.com/TNP-Theater-S...SIN=B01N4KUVA9

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Ray,

Thanks for the response! Glad I posted the question - That'll save me some grief.


Ray or anyone, any reports on using the wireless transmitter with the RSL Speedwoofer? Will I lose anything (power wise) by going with that transmitter?
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Good Morning RSL owners,

My HTR is getting insulated and drywalled over the next 2 weeks. I'm just wrapping up wiring, connections and ordering equipment. I'm using 3 CG23's across the front, two CG3's for the back. Will be ordering the ATMOS in ceiling speakers and the sub in the next month or so. Denon X3400H driving. My room is 14x13.

Question:

What Speaker Wire to run for the RSL Sub? Also, any noticeable differences between speaker wire for the room? I just plan to run 12 Ga around the room for these RSL Speakers?

Thanks in advance

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14ga should be plenty good enough for speakers. I have 1000'+ mono price 14ga in my house for inceilings and other speakers. For the sub you can run RG6 coax cable and then just put a RCA end on it. Use a high quality product like Belden 7915a and you'll have a great sub cable for a fraction of the price of a pre-made unit.
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Ray,

Thanks for the response! Glad I posted the question - That'll save me some grief.


Ray or anyone, any reports on using the wireless transmitter with the RSL Speedwoofer? Will I lose anything (power wise) by going with that transmitter?
No loss of power, but wireless can be problematic, with lots of stories here of drop outs and/or various noise issues. That said, I have no particular knowledge of any issues with the RSL version. It is always more reliable to be wired than wireless, unless somebody puts a staple through the cable and ruins it or runs it parallel near a power line.

You could try wireless and see. Free returns if it doesn't work. I just thought, since the walls are open, and the wiring not particularly expensive, it would make sense to go with the sure thing.

You could always contact RSL and discuss any concerns with them. Their customer service is outstanding.
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Newly posted on the RSL site. The modifications to the series 3 speakers are cosmetic only. Internals will not change. Also, they are running a sale on the remaining CG23 speakers, as singles or in various packages. The 5.1 package gets you 5 CG23s at $160 each ...

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Hi, I am planning to purchase RSL Speakers but which combination is whats confusing me. My room size is 18.5 x 11.5 x 10 and I am planning to go 7.2.4.

Can I go with 3 CG5s for LCR and 4 CG23s for Surrounds (Ceiling will be 4 CG34Es).



The idea behind CG23s for Surrounds is that from the specs they have a lower frequency capability than CG3s and I can crossover to the Sub-woofer at close to the normally recommended 80Hz and also allows me to save money in the process by not going with CG5s all around. Any thoughts? Thanks all in advance.

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Talk to RSL but they would say don’t bother with CG4. In my conversation with them they said the CG3 is every bit as capable as the CG4 and thus not worth the cost difference.

I have CG3 all around with C34 in the ceiling for my 5.2.4 setup. I crossover at 100hz as my sub setup allows for that.

My room is 22’ wide, 18’ deep and 9’ high with one side completely open. 5.2.4 works just fine for me.
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I just received my C34E ceiling speakers, very nice build quality. I can't wait to get these installed and see how my system sounds with atmos disks.
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Talk to RSL but they would say don’t bother with CG4. In my conversation with them they said the CG3 is every bit as capable as the CG4 and thus not worth the cost difference.

I have CG3 all around with C34 in the ceiling for my 5.2.4 setup. I crossover at 100hz as my sub setup allows for that.

My room is 22’ wide, 18’ deep and 9’ high with one side completely open. 5.2.4 works just fine for me.

Sorry, I meant CG5 instead of CG4. Its true there is not much difference between CG3 and CG4 anyway.
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I just received my C34E ceiling speakers, very nice build quality. I can't wait to get these installed and see how my system sounds with atmos disks.
I just put in 4 of these, and even though I'm not a home-improvement guru, they were very easy to install, and the magnetic covers are just cool and make it even easier. So far, they sound pretty good to me with Atmos, and honestly, even with Dolby Surround upmix. Not sure if I should have done something more in the ceiling, like give them a bigger space. I already pushed the insulation away, so they had ~.5 cubic foot of space behind them.
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I just had RSL quote me for 7 x W26 and 4 x C34E including post to Australia.

They responded straight away to tell me they need to check on postage. Within a day they had got back to me with a price and apologized for taking so long
The price was very very good but I decided to stick with my trying some of my existing bookshelf speakers first.

When I told them this they replied with "We sincerely hope that the bookshelf speakers work out for you"


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I am now tempted to buy them anyway.................
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Anyone have any impressions on the CG5/25 yet?
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Why Jim? Is there any embargo for opinions/reviews?
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I maintain radio silence while evaluating a product. I don't have a problem letting people know what equipment is in rotation, I just never felt comfortable divulging anything during the process. Personality quirk I suppose. I'll say this much though, if you've read any of my speaker reviews in the past you'll know how much emphasis I place on voices. Here is a direct excerpt from my notes thus far... "Howard Rogers, if you're reading this I have but 2 words to say; nailed it". If vocal clarity is important to you these speakers need to be on your short list.
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These CG5/25's have me really intrigued. I run ATC SCM7 V3 speakers with C1C center channel, powered with either a Denon X4300 or Anthem MRX520... currently have both receiver's and am testing back and forth. The speakers use 5" drivers and 1" soft dome.


I appreciate the naturalness and realism of the ATC's, but I just can't seem to love them. I don't feel like I'm getting enough clarity and precision/definition in the mid's/high's. Dialogue for movies is big/life size sounding, but the precision and enunciation is lacking no matter what I power them with. Sounds a bit boxy and boomy sometimes too. Also seems like some of the excitement and liveliness from movies is missing. Maybe the studio monitor sound just isn't for me?? I had smaller Energy RC Mini's with 4" drivers in the past and an Energy Take 5 package before that with 3.5" drivers, and I remember always loving how non-boomy or bloated the dialogue would sound, and how quick and crisp the sound was with great precision and definition.


I have been curious to try the CG5 series because I've heard how clear and crisp and defined/precise the CG3 and 4 series are. I still value naturalness and realism the most, but want a more forward/lively and engaging sound than the ATC's are giving me. I definitely don't like a mellow or laidback sound, or where the voices/dialogue are set far back in the soundstage. I appreciate depth, but I want something that projects the soundstage forward into the room and gives dialogue and instruments/effects for movies an "in the room" presentation.


Do you guys think the RSL's (CG5/25's in particular) would give me what I'm looking for??
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These CG5/25's have me really intrigued. I run ATC SCM7 V3 speakers with C1C center channel, powered with either a Denon X4300 or Anthem MRX520... currently have both receiver's and am testing back and forth. The speakers use 5" drivers and 1" soft dome.


I appreciate the naturalness and realism of the ATC's, but I just can't seem to love them. I don't feel like I'm getting enough clarity and precision/definition in the mid's/high's. Dialogue for movies is big/life size sounding, but the precision and enunciation is lacking no matter what I power them with. Sounds a bit boxy and boomy sometimes too. Also seems like some of the excitement and liveliness from movies is missing. Maybe the studio monitor sound just isn't for me?? I had smaller Energy RC Mini's with 4" drivers in the past and an Energy Take 5 package before that with 3.5" drivers, and I remember always loving how non-boomy or bloated the dialogue would sound, and how quick and crisp the sound was with great precision and definition.


I have been curious to try the CG5 series because I've heard how clear and crisp and defined/precise the CG3 and 4 series are. I still value naturalness and realism the most, but want a more forward/lively and engaging sound than the ATC's are giving me. I definitely don't like a mellow or laidback sound, or where the voices/dialogue are set far back in the soundstage. I appreciate depth, but I want something that projects the soundstage forward into the room and gives dialogue and instruments/effects for movies an "in the room" presentation.


Do you guys think the RSL's (CG5/25's in particular) would give me what I'm looking for??
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I was more concerned about whether to try the CG3's or CG5's. All the reviews on the 3's state a very engaging and exciting presentation... I'm just worried maybe they might have tuned the 5's differently to a more mellow/smoother/laidback signature, which I definitely would not enjoy so much. I've found that as you go up the model lines of most speaker companies from entry/mid level models, to higher end ones, they have a bit more naturalness and realism but are less engaging and lively/exciting. So, not sure honestly... I might prefer the 3's to the 5's. Bass response of the speaker is not a big deal, as I cross over to a Paradigm SUB 12 whether it's movies or music. So the smaller drivers in the CG3's don't scare me.


Suppose sending RSL an email about it would be the best course.
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I appreciate the naturalness and realism of the ATC's, but I just can't seem to love them. I don't feel like I'm getting enough clarity and precision/definition in the mid's/high's. Dialogue for movies is big/life size sounding, but the precision and enunciation is lacking no matter what I power them with. Sounds a bit boxy and boomy sometimes too. Also seems like some of the excitement and liveliness from movies is missing. Maybe the studio monitor sound just isn't for me??
Studio monitors tend to be 'clinical' as they're specifically designed to reproduce sound without any embellishment, not what most of us prefer. Unless you're a sound engineer it's likely you would rather there be some augmentation, "voicing" as it's often referred to.


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I have been curious to try the CG5 series because I've heard how clear and crisp and defined/precise the CG3 and 4 series are. I still value naturalness and realism the most, but want a more forward/lively and engaging sound than the ATC's are giving me. I definitely don't like a mellow or laidback sound, or where the voices/dialogue are set far back in the soundstage. I appreciate depth, but I want something that projects the soundstage forward into the room and gives dialogue and instruments/effects for movies an "in the room" presentation.

I was more concerned about whether to try the CG3's or CG5's. All the reviews on the 3's state a very engaging and exciting presentation... I'm just worried maybe they might have tuned the 5's differently to a more mellow/smoother/laidback signature, which I definitely would not enjoy so much. I've found that as you go up the model lines of most speaker companies from entry/mid level models, to higher end ones, they have a bit more naturalness and realism but are less engaging and lively/exciting. So, not sure honestly... I might prefer the 3's to the 5's. Bass response of the speaker is not a big deal, as I cross over to a Paradigm SUB 12 whether it's movies or music. So the smaller drivers in the CG3's don't scare me.
I wouldn't call the 5's "lively" as I typically use that word to describe high efficiency speakers, but I would definitely say they show realism and are able to project the soundstage. The CG5's have a dial to change tweeter performance so they can be adjusted to suit personal preference.
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Studio monitors tend to be 'clinical' as they're specifically designed to reproduce sound without any embellishment, not what most of us prefer. Unless you're a sound engineer it's likely you would rather there be some augmentation, "voicing" as it's often referred to.




I wouldn't call the 5's "lively" as I typically use that word to describe high efficiency speakers, but I would definitely say they show realism and are able to project the soundstage. The CG5's have a dial to change tweeter performance so they can be adjusted to suit personal preference.
Hi Jim, thank you for the helpful info! That is also very interesting about the tweeter adjustment option on the CG5's. Definitely makes me lean towards trying them over the 3's. I assume the CG25 center channels also have the same tweeter adjustment option?


Having heard both the CG3 and CG5 lines, would you say that one is more exciting/engaging/forward than the other? My main concern is if they will be forward and engaging enough for my taste... also not having boom, bloated bass or a "boxy" sound to them. Could you list any other speaker brands/models you would say the CG5's sound similar to?? Perhaps I've demo'd some of the same speakers in the past that would give me an idea of their presentation, before I start bothering RSL with a bunch of questions.
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Hi Jim, thank you for the helpful info! That is also very interesting about the tweeter adjustment option on the CG5's. Definitely makes me lean towards trying them over the 3's. I assume the CG25 center channels also have the same tweeter adjustment option?
The CG25 does not have a tweeter adjustment. I asked Joe Rodgers that very question and at the risk of jumping the gun on part of my article here is a direct quote he gave me in response...

When you hear the CG25s I think you’ll find they really don’t need any tweeter adjustment. As least, that is our opinion. As a speaker that is more forward by nature, the adjustable tweeter isn’t as much of an added benefit. Being a more traditionally sounding speaker, we felt the increased adaptability best suits the CG5. The 5 is quite dimensional as is, but dialing up the tweeter will bring the sound a bit more forward, if that’s your preference.

The effects of the low/medium/high setting are subtle - it doesn't make a night and day difference - but it can be heard. Low wasn't sufficient for my needs so I've spent the majority of the time thus far using medium and high. Even on high it's not as bright as a ribbon but sometimes to my ears that type of tweeter can be a bit strident, especially when pushed. I prefer a smoother, more even sound. As an example I have an old Deep Purple song called Stormbringer playing right now at an elevated volume. If a tweeter lacks composure then David Coverdale's voice will tend to grate on me, but no such thing is happening and I have the setting on high.

EDIT: Joe made a request that I do the music portion of my evaluation with a 2.1 setup consisting of dual CG25's and a single SpeedWoofer 10S. To facilitate that they sent me a second CG25 so I will be able to test the assertion it's more forward than the CG5 as I can compare them back-to-back on the same material.


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Having heard both the CG3 and CG5 lines, would you say that one is more exciting/engaging/forward than the other? My main concern is if they will be forward and engaging enough for my taste... also not having boom, bloated bass or a "boxy" sound to them. Could you list any other speaker brands/models you would say the CG5's sound similar to?? Perhaps I've demo'd some of the same speakers in the past that would give me an idea of their presentation, before I start bothering RSL with a bunch of questions.
I reviewed the original CG4 line and now have the CG5, I haven't heard the CG3's. With the 5's I wouldn't describe anything I'm hearing as boxy or bloated, especially at volume. And I certainly wouldn't worry about 'bothering' RSL with a bunch of questions. In the past 6+ years I've had several conversations and email exchanges with both Howard and Joe and at no time have I ever found either of them to be anything but passionate about what they do and how they do it. I can assure you they will answer every question quickly and with great detail. Better yet, call and speak with them directly. Trust me, you will not be disappointed.
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