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Any new thoughts on the XT 6F ? Very few opinions in searches. Have Monitor Audio RX6 but tired of the Rosenut color, want a change and willing to go a different speaker all together. No where near me that has them but local dealer can order.
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I'm purchasing loudspeaker,I intend Tannoy as follow: iw62TDC ,CMS603DC ,CMS503DC.
I wonder if these are avaliable and prices .

Btw ,you can sent me email.

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I'm purchasing loudspeaker,I intend Tannoy as follow: iw62TDC ,CMS603DC ,CMS503DC.
I wonder if these are avaliable and prices .

Btw ,you can sent me email.

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They are available, check on line, otherwise send me a pm.
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Shoot me an email if you have the time.

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Hot wheels,

I spent a great deal of time with the 8F at CEDIA. Very impressed.

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Any new thoughts on the XT 6F ? Very few opinions in searches. Have Monitor Audio RX6 but tired of the Rosenut color, want a change and willing to go a different speaker all together. No where near me that has them but local dealer can order.
i was torn between the xt 6f & 8f

in the end it really came down to not wanting to feel the "what if" feeling

i went with the 8f and haven't looked back
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New toys

Just picked up these new fronts, the center channel and 2 cms 6dc for atmos in my theatre. I'll try and post a review for music today as I'm extremely excited to hear these in an enclosed room and compare them to my DC 10 ti's that I have in my great room.
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Interesting evening dialing in the new fronts, DC 8ti's, with my existing rear inwalls, tannoy iw63's, and sub. I was initially concerned because the sound just seemed to be missing something when I switched between straight 2 channel with a sub and using all 7 speakers in my room. Problem solved, switched center to large and viola sound is spectacular. The 8's are great speakers but really shine when used with the definition center. The 10's need no help, not even a sub.
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Hi all,

I've just picked up some cms803 BMs that I will be using for atmos. They are a lot heavier than I thought so interested in anyone who has mounted the cms series in a gyprock (sheet rock) ceiling.

Looking at the instructions they don't seem to have any extra support and rely on the gyprock only for mounting. I am pretty positive my roof won't support the 8kg speakers this way.

Are there any tips or suggestions on further support etc? I have easy access inside the roof cavity if that helps.

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Glow,

This is a TANNOY thread.

However I have a suggestion IF you have ceiling assess (open attic).

You can take some 2x4s and build a small box and cover with 1/2" OSB with a cut out that matches your speaker. Align that with the ceiling cut out for your present speakers and attach the box to the ceiling joist.

The "wings" have to be able to clear the OSB drywall sandwich. This way the box is holding the speaker not the drywall.

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Thank you miles. They are tannoys (I have all tannoy speakers except the sub) and people have discussed the cms models previously in the thread so I was hoping they might be able to provide insight.

But thank you for your thoughts they were along the line I have been leaning towards.



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My bad. I thought I seen B&W...

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Thinking of tannoy cms603 for atmos duty. im confused as to how these speakers would connect to my pioneer elite sc97 or do they require external amplification???pretty much connecting everything to it for now planning on getting an amp later. Going 5.1.4
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I've got what i'm sure is a pretty dumb question but i've never owned in-ceiling speakers before so i thought i'd ask here. I'm looking at getting Tannoy CVS6's for my four height channels on a 5.1.4 atmos setup and have a question on mounting.

The room is already finished (i pre-wired though for 4 in ceiling atmos speakers) so I'll need to cut the holes and pop these CVS's in place...what i was wanting to verify is that the little clamp tab things that hold the speaker in place in the ceiling will work with double 5/8" thick drywall.
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Hi gang,

Quick question for the group. I bought a some Di5s off of ebay, and they didn't come with the screws for the yoke brackets. Does anyone know the screw sizes for those?

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I have a chance to buy some used cms 501 ceiling speakers. can anyone tell me if I need to or if it is even possible to remove the transformer to be able to use them as normal speakers?

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Tannoy Pro

Hey fellow Tannoy fans.... does anybody have any experience with the Tannoy Pro line? I see @blastermaster the thread starter is using the DC12i's which show up on both residential and pro Tannoy web sites (which I am interested in as well) but I was wondering if anyone could comment on the VX 12 or VXP 12? The two models are essentially the same except the VXP has a Lab Gruppen amp attached to it making it a really interesting option. Can anybody tell if the drivers used in these cabs are the same as the DC12i or any other well known performing Tannoy 12" models? They even seem similar to the 12 DMT-II that some have mentioned here. The only thing that really stands out as odd is that the crossover is at 1kHz versus the DC12i's 1.4kHz. Other than that, the specs seem very similar. Any info is appreciated as I am really interested in these options.


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Hey fellow Tannoy fans.... does anybody have any experience with the Tannoy Pro line? I see @blastermaster the thread starter is using the DC12i's which show up on both residential and pro Tannoy web sites (which I am interested in as well) but I was wondering if anyone could comment on the VX 12 or VXP 12? The two models are essentially the same except the VXP has a Lab Gruppen amp attached to it making it a really interesting option. Can anybody tell if the drivers used in these cabs are the same as the DC12i or any other well known performing Tannoy 12" models? They even seem similar to the 12 DMT-II that some have mentioned here. The only thing that really stands out as odd is that the crossover is at 1kHz versus the DC12i's 1.4kHz. Other than that, the specs seem very similar. Any info is appreciated as I am really interested in these options.


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If I were you, I'd probably contact Tannoy support and ask your question. They have been really good with me in terms of helping me out with my HT endeavours. I would suspect that they'd tell you the DC12i line would be better for HT than the VX line - they design these speakers for specific purposes. I have been very fortunate to find good deals on used/demo models online. If it were me, I'd look on ebay and other hifi companies that sell demos (HiFiHeaven) and keep my fingers crossed (read: be patient). I've scooped up a pair of ceiling speakers, side and surround Tannoys for my theater at way less than half of their retail cost and they work flawlessly.

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Tannoy Arena Sub "Bash"

Hi,

Can someone help me. I have since 2007 a complete set Tannoy Arena with all the extra's.
It's look very nice even the sound.
But the text-front plate of the subwoofer Arena Bash becames hazy and the color disappear.

So, I want a new front plate, but thats not so easy.
The dealer in Holland can't help me even the importer firm.

When I go to Tannoy site it's not possible to make a contact as a private person.

Is there someone who can help me? I need a new front-plate.
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If I were you, I'd probably contact Tannoy support and ask your question. They have been really good with me in terms of helping me out with my HT endeavours. I would suspect that they'd tell you the DC12i line would be better for HT than the VX line - they design these speakers for specific purposes. I have been very fortunate to find good deals on used/demo models online. If it were me, I'd look on ebay and other hifi companies that sell demos (HiFiHeaven) and keep my fingers crossed (read: be patient). I've scooped up a pair of ceiling speakers, side and surround Tannoys for my theater at way less than half of their retail cost and they work flawlessly.

Thanks for the advice! I might just end up doing that as it seems difficult finding information on these speakers. What amp are you running your DC12i's with?
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Thanks for the advice! I might just end up doing that as it seems difficult finding information on these speakers. What amp are you running your DC12i's with?
I'm running the front LCR DC12i's with the Emotiva XPA-3. It's 3 X 200 watts per channel. The recommended amp power for the speakers is 400W at 8 ohms, but these speakers are a really sensitive speaker (97db) so they're easy to drive and I don't run them that loud anyway (usually -12).

It really is difficult to find much on these speakers as they seem to be more popular in Europe, but I can honestly say that the clarity that comes from a dual concentric driver is nothing short of amazing. If it proves too frustrating to get your hands on some, you may wish to look at Reaction Audio. They are a relatively new company IIRC and have some enticing dual concentric speakers. They are very utilitarian as far as speakers go (read: butt ugly), but so are the DC12is (which is why they are behind the screen). I'd imagine they sound great, though, and I'd love to do an A/B with them vs my Tannoys. Hope that helps!

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I have a chance to buy some used cms 501 ceiling speakers. can anyone tell me if I need to or if it is even possible to remove the transformer to be able to use them as normal speakers?
Sorry, I just saw this post. All you have to do is set them to "low Z" and you can use them as regular speakers. No need to remove the transformer. I have the 601's FWIW.

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***the front LCR DC12i's*** recommended amp power for the speakers is 400W at 8 ohms,
FWIW, for a few years I ran my 12 DMT II based speakers (bespoke low-diffraction sealed cabinets by Nathan Funk) off of a Denon 4000-series AVR. I tried them with a number of stronger amps, and it made no difference at all. I've also driven them with a TEAC A-H01 (ICEpower 50ASX2, about 25Wpc/8Ω) in a fairly large room, and did not detect any loss of resolution, detail, or dynamics from the pairing. Ninety-plus dB sensitivity is a wonderful thing.

The only amp problems arose when I tried to take them active. Many amps had noise floors high enough to be audible at the listening position when the padding network was removed from the tweeters. I was especially surprised by a Rotel multichannel amp that hissed like crazy.


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It really is difficult to find much on these speakers as they seem to be more popular in Europe, but I can honestly say that the clarity that comes from a dual concentric driver is nothing short of amazing. If it proves too frustrating to get your hands on some, you may wish to look at Reaction Audio. They are a relatively new company IIRC and have some enticing dual concentric speakers. They are very utilitarian as far as speakers go (read: butt ugly), but so are the DC12is (which is why they are behind the screen). I'd imagine they sound great, though, and I'd love to do an A/B with them vs my Tannoys. Hope that helps!
I would not expect the Reactions to be in the same stadium as the Tannoys. Tannoy has spent a lot of time optimizing the geometry of their Dual Concentric to smooth the transition from tweeter to phase plug to cone. The pro-focused concentrics (Radian, B&C, Beyma, BMS, Faital, etc.) are nowhere close to the Duals in terms of basic smoothness or attention to detail in fitting the tweeter into the woofer.

Also, the Reaction crossovers appear to be hacks. They offer a tweeter "upgrade" with no change to the crossover. Obviously they claim the new one does all kinds of magical gunk. When I started asking how they could use the same crossover with a different tweeter diaphragm, they banned me from the Reaction thread here. The next best thing to a big Dual is probably a KEF Q900 with a crossover mod to notch out the woofer's breakup.

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^Thanks guys! Appreciate the feedback and commentary. I have been keeping my eye on Reaction's offerings as I noticed awhile back they were also Dual-Concentric designs. @DS-21 , I have a feeling your right though in that the Tannoy's are probably miles ahead in the concentric game.
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Yep Tannoy has been doing the DC since 1946 I believe.

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DS21. Im not sure what your argument was exactly. But if the tweeter upgrade you're talking about was the Be thing i can understand why a XO change wasn't necessary. When i compared the stock Ti diaphragm again a Be in a JBL 2446 the difference was slightly more efficiency in a range from about 3khz to 10khz (going on memory here) but mostly just a smoother response. Listening the Ti actually sounded slightly louder due to distortion. The XO i finished with i ended up decided it should be the same for the Ti and the Be. Not the same speaker, or even driver for that matter, but perhaps offers an answer to your question if you didn't get a satisfactory one at the time.

As for the Radiant units vs Tannoy, i don't really have a comment other than many PA horns seem far worse being used in popular ID companies touted here so oftenbut hey, you're right about the Q900 being nice IF the woofer is notched. I could here it in the store. I think we discussed it years ago on PETT forum.

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DS21. Im not sure what your argument was exactly. But if the tweeter upgrade you're talking about was the Be thing i can understand why a XO change wasn't necessary. When i compared the stock Ti diaphragm again a Be in a JBL 2446 the difference was slightly more efficiency in a range from about 3khz to 10khz (going on memory here) but mostly just a smoother response.
If there's a change in frequency response over 3-10 kHz...yeah, I think a wholesale rethink of the crossover is necessary. Pointing out basic stuff like that caused the Reaction dude to get me banned from his little thread.

But basically their crossover guy is a complete hack. He seems to think that a concentric driver with a compression driver is just fine with a super-minimal crossover.


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Wait: you're doing crossover design for them now? Before it was some joker with some really backwards ideas.

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