Originally Posted by Jsin_N
Just drop the knowledge here. That's what forums are for.
People can view both sides and judge for themselves.
I would, but it's literally gotten to the point that my contacts at Harman no longer want to participate when this stuff drags on and on and gets hostile / personal. There is time and effort involved on my part and on the part of my contacts at Harman, and when they see the conversation devolve into comments like these:
"you post obviously erroneous info
"*sigh* Corrections inline, again. I've already pointed this out but you continue to post basic errors. You're not helping anyone by posting inaccurate information.
...I think you can understand why they no longer want to devote any additional time and effort. Ostensibly those comments above were directed at me, but as I made explicitly clear, I was cutting and pasting direct conversations with legit engineers at Harman. As one of them said in my recent exchanges:
The answers that I’m having to provide remind me of why I haven’t engaged in the forums. I enjoy providing information, but it really seems that they have an agenda to object.
can absolutely verify, the engineers at Harman are incredibly busy and absolutely devoted to getting the science right, and pushing the entire audio industry forward. I consider it an honor that I can get information directly from such people as Charles Sprinkle, Tim Gladwin, Kevin Voecks and others. But neither they nor I am interested in getting involved in petty squabbles, especially when they are essentially being called out as either liars or incompetents after taking the time and trouble to answer questions for those of us here.
FYI, this is how the process goes:
I submit questions to the appropriate contact.
I wait for a response, which can sometimes take a few days to a week or so because they are often in the lab or travelling around the world.
Once I get the response, I clarify any remaining points, and ASK FIRST if I can quote the individual directly. They then ask to review what I intend to post before I do so. I only post when I get the final sign-off (which is why you often see me say, "trying to clarify - please stand by.")
All of this takes time and effort on everyone's part.
So, I can either keep the lines of communication open, or I can keep getting involved in these little spats and end the conversation.
Hope you understand. BTW, I sent you an email with some recent conversations