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Thank you for the usefull information!

The ground loop isolator solved my buzzing noise when in full load issue.
I have to say that the noise is not eliminated although.
Its like the 1% of the initial noise, but if i stick my ear to the speaker I can hear the buzz when my vga goes in load.

As I am in search for an external volume controller,
I am examing(between others) the Scarlett as an option.
I want to improve sound quality and possibly eliminate this 1% almost non-existent buz.
The 'problem' with these audio interfaces is that they will make useless my recently purchased Creative soundcard.
Maybe a simple volume controller solution like the Schiit Sys or the JBL Nanopatch+ is better match in my case.
Glad to hear you got most of the noise situated! I like the Scarlett interface quite a bit, although I have zero use for anything on it except for the volume control and balanced outputs, so it is sort of a waste for my needs. That JBL Nanopatch looks pretty slick, but I don't see why a simple volume control is $50.


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Glad to hear you got most of the noise situated! I like the Scarlett interface quite a bit, although I have zero use for anything on it except for the volume control and balanced outputs, so it is sort of a waste for my needs. That JBL Nanopatch looks pretty slick, but I don't see why a simple volume control is $50.
I agree with you.
If you consider that it adds nothing to the sound,
you realize that you pay 50$+ for a simple potensiometer that I am sure a DIY guy(not me) could go a lot cheaper.

From the other hand I cant decide to sell my brand new Creative soundcard and buy an audio device such the Scarlett.
I would like to have opinions whether the combination audio device+JBLs will give a better sound result than the combination Creative SounblasterX AE-5+JBLs.
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I bought the massdrop version of LSR305, and am very impressed at what it can do. I had the dynaudio BM5a mk3 a couple of years back, and these get close enough that i don't miss the dynaudios as much. The only issue was with the hiss, and high frequency whine i would hear whenever i move the mouse. It was picking up noise from the computer, and the speakers amplified it. So to get around it, i used the emotiva DC-1 and its dead silent now. No hiss, no hum, and just glorious music all around
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The next generation of the 3 Series has been released. The LSR has been dropped from the name, and there are now 3 models in the lineup: 305P MKII, 306P MKII, and 308P MKII. The drivers have been updated, and instead of a LF attenuator switch there is a boundary switch. Also the front of the monitor has new cosmetics.

It appears that the 306 won't be available until February. I would have liked to try the 306, but for my needs an 8" woofer is better suited, so I ordered a pair of 308's from Sweetwater and they will be here tomorrow.

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Looks like they got rid of that buzzing plastic woofer ring!
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I think it was a great idea to add a model with a 6-1/2" woofer to the line, I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the best selling model in the series.
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The next generation of the 3 Series has been released. The LSR has been dropped from the name, and there are now 3 models in the lineup: 305P MKII, 306P MKII, and 308P MKII.
So that's why Massdrop dropped the price of LSR30X to $179. Thanks to that price drop, I picked up a pair of those for my computer-based guitar system.
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So that's why Massdrop dropped the price of LSR30X to $179. Thanks to that price drop, I picked up a pair of those for my computer-based guitar system.
The deal at Guitar Center is better.

$99 each speaker w/ free shipping (black or red). Massdrop always seems to gouge on the shipping costs.

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So that's why Massdrop dropped the price of LSR30X to $179. Thanks to that price drop, I picked up a pair of those for my computer-based guitar system.
Last week I nearly pulled the trigger on a pair of LSR308s when I saw them on Amazon for just $149. I wasn't even aware that a next generation 3 Series was even in the works. When I the new ones at Sweetwater on Tuesday I decided to order them that night.

They are here and hooked up, but I won't get much time to listen to them until later as I have to get ready for work shortly. It's going to be a fun weekend!
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The deal at Guitar Center is better.

$99 each speaker w/ free shipping (black or red). Massdrop always seems to gouge on the shipping costs.
Massdrop was $179.99 a PAIR, with free shipping.

The Massdrop LSR30X is a little different than the 305 that Guitar Center has. They are hand-matched for frequency response and gloss.
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Massdrop was $179.99 a PAIR, with free shipping.

The Massdrop LSR30X is a little different than the 305 that Guitar Center has. They are hand-matched for frequency response and gloss.
That's odd, when I checked out the drop it was showing a shipping price of over $60.00 USD and saying that it won't ship to Canada for that drop so I assumed that's what they were charging for shipping in the US.

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My gut feeling is that although having the +/- 1 dB tolerance in the frequency response, supposedly because they run curves on each individual one of the LSR30X, is nice in theory but it becomes so completely swamped by variations due to room, environment, and your precise seated position that it doesn't really matter in the big picture. . . . It might matter for listeners in anechoic chambers though. [half joke but there's some truth to it]

Can anyone here tell us if they include in the box a printout of the actual pair they bought's frequency response sweep showing their close match?

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Can anyone here tell us if they include in the box a printout of the actual pair they bought's frequency response sweep showing their close match?
I didn't get one with my new 308P MKIIs, nor with the 305s I use to own.

I have 45 minutes left to work, then I'll enjoy a weekend indoors putting them through their paces, with the snowstorm about to arrive.

I can't wait!!
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I bought lsr305 when it was on regular price and was very underwhelmed by its performance but if you must have a powered speaker, I guess it is worth $90 each. But don't expect performance above that price point irrespective of what the frequency curve says.

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Can anyone here tell us if they include in the box a printout of the actual pair they bought's frequency response sweep showing their close match?
THEY DO! Jump to 3m00s into this video:
Cool. I used to be a dealer for a KEF Reference Series speaker that claimed the same thing but it was $5,700 more dollars.
Notice they only cover up to 12.5 kHz in the printout and it seems to sky rocket after that, I suspect, due to the sharp spike there. If anyone else gets them please show us your graph. Thanks.
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I don't know if it has been mentioned here already but the 3 series have been a great success for JBL. Peter Chaikin: "... we are selling three to four times the volume of what we imagined. Even though they were designed for studios, people use them for all kinds of applications. They’ve been extraordinarily successful."

The quote is taken from this bio piece on Peter: https://pro.harman.com/insights/ente...?sf173965835=1

Pretty awesome news I think. I'm really glad they've had this level of success with them.
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I don't know if it has been mentioned here already but the 3 series have been a great success for JBL. Peter Chaikin: "... we are selling three to four times the volume of what we imagined. Even though they were designed for studios, people use them for all kinds of applications. They’ve been extraordinarily successful."

The quote is taken from this bio piece on Peter: https://pro.harman.com/insights/ente...?sf173965835=1

Pretty awesome news I think. I'm really glad they've had this level of success with them.
They seem to be the budget king for people looking for speakers in that $250-$300US range. Especially in a desktop application if you don't already have a receiver, you can put together a very cost effective system using entry level active monitors. I've had lots of enjoyment from active monitors in my secondary and office systems over the years (M-Audio, Fostex, Focal, Tannoy) but unfortunately I have yet to hear the JBLs.

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Anyone have a line on where the new 306 can be preordered in Canada? I'd like to test and evaluate a pair.

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Thanks you! I'll put in the order when Im home tonight

I've never bought from them but I know a lot of people have. I assume they're reliable.

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Thanks you! I'll put in the order when Im home tonight

I've never bought from them but I know a lot of people have. I assume they're reliable.

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Let us know how you like them. And how the sound quality compares with an inexpensive AVR plus 200 dollar pair of speakers.

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Let us know how you like them. And how the sound quality compares with an inexpensive AVR plus 200 dollar pair of speakers.

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I will. I plan to do a pretty thorough review on my youtube channel

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What is your YouTube channel? My comparison with a cheap avr and Kef q100 (225 a pair) showed that Q100 were much much better. Would love to listen to your assessment.

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It is Impulse Audio. Youtube.com/c/ImpulseAudioSpeakers

I don't normally review commercial speakers. It is a DIY channel. But I've wanted to try the lsr for a while and figured it would be fun to try the new size. I'll take them apart and test them very thoroughly.

Ordered them last night so hoping it doesnt take too long!

I like the Kef Q100. Especially for desktop use. I'm surprised they don't get more love. Good to know you're enjoying them.

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It is Impulse Audio. Youtube.com/c/ImpulseAudioSpeakers

I don't normally review commercial speakers. It is a DIY channel. But I've wanted to try the lsr for a while and figured it would be fun to try the new size. I'll take them apart and test them very thoroughly.

Ordered them last night so hoping it doesnt take too long!

I like the Kef Q100. Especially for desktop use. I'm surprised they don't get more love. Good to know you're enjoying them.

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I was in Guitar Center today and noticed the MkIIs. I didn't look that closely at them, but at brief glance they look to have a better fit and finish. I will be interested to hear if they are an upgrade to my MkIs.

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As the LSR305 is being replaced, I just wanted to say these are amazing speakers for the price. They had been used for my home office computer. I am actually in the market for the KEF LS50W, but as I listened to them, I found that the JBLs hold their own. Going from $100 Bluetooth or PC speakers (Creative, Logitech, etc) to the LSR305 was a huge improvement but going from the LSR305 to the LS50W is less dramatic at medium volumes. It's almost crazy that for just $200 or less, you can really transform your musical enjoyment and it's has to be one of the best audio values out there. With only space issues and lack of connections preventing them from being the perfect budget desktop speakers, these JBLs fly in the face of the notion that you need to spend tons of money to get high fidelity audio.
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The only real gripe I have with my 305s is that the power switches are on the rear surface which doesn't face you. I was forced to buy a switched power strip for mine to get around that and it's now an eye sore on my desk.

I just explained how the placement of the switch is undesirable for me, but can anyone here explain why placing the switch on the front would be undesirable to some users? I don't get it.

I love the sound though.

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The only real gripe I have with my 305s is that the power switches are on the rear surface which doesn't face you. I was forced to buy a switched power strip for mine to get around that and it's now an eye sore on my desk.

I just explained how the placement of the switch is undesirable for me, but can anyone here explain why placing the switch on the front would be undesirable to some users? I don't get it.

I love the sound though.
Why do you need to turn them off? The studio monitors that I've run stay on all the time. The only time I would power them down is if I'm heading out of town for a while.

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The only time I would power them down is if I'm heading out of town for a while.
Why would you need to power them down if you're heading out of town for awhile?
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