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Why would you need to power them down if you're heading out of town for awhile?
Just a habit. I usually turn off all my gear and unplug my power bars/power conditioners if I'm not going to be home for a couple weeks or more.

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I turn off my gear every night, but regardless of if some people turn it off once a day or once a month, who is it that finds placing the power switch on the back makes it more convenient than the front?
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The only real gripe I have with my 305s is that the power switches are on the rear surface which doesn't face you. I was forced to buy a switched power strip for mine to get around that and it's now an eye sore on my desk.

I just explained how the placement of the switch is undesirable for me, but can anyone here explain why placing the switch on the front would be undesirable to some users? I don't get it.

I love the sound though.
You could try mounting the power strip under your desk if it is small enough.

If they had put the switch on the top right or left corner in the back, you can easily reach there without even having to look or hunt for it. Being in the middle, I have to often feel around for it.
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How would i go about connecting a pair of Jbl lsr305 and 310sub to a Samsung ks8000 tv?

I think optical is the only option on the tv unless i can use the usb inputs with my fiio e10? Then can I connect the speakers via the headphone jack on the fiio e10? Any chance i could control the volume with tv remote? Any help would be much appreciated
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Then can I connect the speakers via the headphone jack on the fiio e10?
Can't help you with the rest but a stereo 3.5mm TRS mini-plug to 2x mono 6.3mm (1/4 inch) TS phone plugs cord akin to this will work:
https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Splitt...75HVNFX1ZPS5BW
They come in different lengths and places like Monoprice will sell them for less than Amazon but they'll be just as good audibly.

UPDATE: Oh, wait, I can't tell if your headphone amp uses the small plug standard as I listed above (3.5 mm) or you may need the larger 6.3 (6.35) mm standard for that end also known as 1/4 inch TRS phone plug.

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Thankyou m. zillch,
so connection via headphone jack will sound just as good as anything else? Is the Fiio e10 powerful enough to drive the speakers properly?
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As the LSR305 is being replaced, I just wanted to say these are amazing speakers for the price. They had been used for my home office computer. I am actually in the market for the KEF LS50W, but as I listened to them, I found that the JBLs hold their own. Going from $100 Bluetooth or PC speakers (Creative, Logitech, etc) to the LSR305 was a huge improvement but going from the LSR305 to the LS50W is less dramatic at medium volumes. It's almost crazy that for just $200 or less, you can really transform your musical enjoyment and it's has to be one of the best audio values out there. With only space issues and lack of connections preventing them from being the perfect budget desktop speakers, these JBLs fly in the face of the notion that you need to spend tons of money to get high fidelity audio.
I tried and gave up. My lsr305 never sounded any better than a cheap sony boombox (20 years old). Not even close to Q100 let alone my ls50.

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Thankyou m. zillch,
so connection via headphone jack will sound just as good as anything else? YES Is the Fiio e10 powerful enough to drive the speakers properly?
See my update in that post regarding the plug size for your headphone jack.

The JBLs will take a large range of input levels because they have a variable sensitivity dial on the back. You will need to fiddle with it for a minute to discover the sweet spot range that works well for your device's general output but then you will leave it set to that value forever on and will only use the volume knob on the source device to do your master volume control. I'm 99% certain your Fiio will be able to drive them quite nicely with nothing more than a cord connection and it will sound quite good for its size and price. Let us know how it goes.

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I tried and gave up. My lsr305 never sounded any better than a cheap sony boombox (20 years old). Not even close to Q100 let alone my ls50.
Is it possible that you had a defective unit or pair?

It just doesn't line up with anything I've ever read about these speakers. It's fair if they don't compete, in your opinion, with LS50s or Q100s, but a 20 year old Sony boombox? Seems asinine.

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a 20 year old Sony boombox?
Such units often have hidden, non-defeatable equal loudness contour compensation. A consumer may think they are listening to "flat EQ" but in truth they aren't. [Not to mention all sorts of variants of "MEGA-Bass" style EQ on top of that, but at least that's usually defeatable.] This is also true of many Bose table top systems, BTW.

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I tried and gave up. My lsr305 never sounded any better than a cheap sony boombox (20 years old). Not even close to Q100 let alone my ls50.
Since this is your 6th or 7th post stating the same thing nearly verbatim, it certainly seems like you've got an axe to grind here.
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I turn off my gear every night, but regardless of if some people turn it off once a day or once a month, who is it that finds placing the power switch on the back makes it more convenient than the front?

Consider the build cost. Right now the electronics are in a self-contained subassembly, with only speaker leads going out. A front switch adds another part, another hole in the baffle, and another cable with plug and socket to connect to the amp subassembly.

While I agree with you that front is better, I understand why they decided to save money there. By contrast, JBL probably should have made the lights on the 705p/708p do double duty as a power switch.

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Is it possible that you had a defective unit or pair?

It just doesn't line up with anything I've ever read about these speakers. It's fair if they don't compete, in your opinion, with LS50s or Q100s, but a 20 year old Sony boombox? Seems asinine.
They may be defective. But JBL sent me another pair and both sounded the same. So I guess they are not defective. I bought them after reading such glowing reviews. But since they are among the cheapest speakers I bought, they are sounding close to their price, I guess.

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Can't help you with the rest but a stereo 3.5mm TRS mini-plug to 2x mono 6.3mm (1/4 inch) TS phone plugs cord like this will work:
https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Splitt...75HVNFX1ZPS5BW
They come in different lengths and places like Monoprice will sell them for less than Amazon but they'll be just as good audibly.

UPDATE: Oh, wait, I can't tell if your headphone amp uses the small plug standard as I listed above (3.5 mm) or you may need the larger 6.3 (6.35) mm standard for that end also known as 1/4 inch TRS phone plug.

Split of 40cm? With such short length, it can barely reach the left and right speakers placed by the side of my monitor/display.
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Split of 40cm? With such short length, it can barely reach the left and right speakers placed by the side of my monitor/display.
Good point. I didn't notice that .

I prefer doing the entire run as one cable product with different ends [the fewer points of change/adaptation along a signal line the less points to have a failure] but one could also do it with several items added together such as a stereo splitter

and then two separate runs of mono 1/4 inch TS phone plug tipped cables, one to each speaker.

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They may be defective. But JBL sent me another pair and both sounded the same. So I guess they are not defective. I bought them after reading such glowing reviews. But since they are among the cheapest speakers I bought, they are sounding close to their price, I guess.

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May I ask what other speakers you have owned or auditioned?

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May I ask what other speakers you have owned or auditioned?
I currently use the following speakers.
Allison CD7
KEF Q100
KEF LS50
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Infinity in ceiling
Infinity outdoor
Svs sb12nsd (sub)
And of course Sony boombox

I have auditioned the following speakers at least 2 hours each

PMC twenty21
B&W several 600 and 700 series
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KEF Q SERIES



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Looks like in addition to the two main woofers that boombox has a built-in, powered subwoofer.

It's a Sony CFD-G55 I believe. According to CNET here are its dimensions and weight:

Dimensions & Weight/

Width

18 in


Depth

13 in


Height

7.7 in

TOTAL CUBIC VOLUME: 1801.8

Weight

14.99 lbs

Here are the dimensions, again according to CNET, of the LSR305:
Dimensions & Weight/

Width

7.3 in


Depth

9.9 in


Height

11.7 in

TOTAL CUBIC VOLUME, PER SPKR: 845.6


Weight

10.14 lbs

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I currently use the following speakers.
Allison CD7
KEF Q100
KEF LS50
Lsr305
Infinity in ceiling
Infinity outdoor
Svs sb12nsd (sub)
And of course Sony boombox

I have auditioned the following speakers at least 2 hours each

PMC twenty21
B&W several 600 and 700 series
Kef R300
KEF Q SERIES
It looks like you have an affinity for Kef.

Your opinion of the JBLs seems contrary to most people that have listened to or reviewed them. That doesn't invalidate your opinion, but it means you are in the minority.

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It looks like you have an affinity for Kef.

Your opinion of the JBLs seems contrary to most people that have listened to or reviewed them. That doesn't invalidate your opinion, but it means you are in the minority.
Yes. Maybe. Other speakers like B&W and DefTech that I auditioned all sounded good. Even though they were not my preference. The difference was minor. But these lsr305 just not sound good.

I am as astonished as you may be. Either the source that I am using is no good (iPhone, OR Bluetooth receiver) or I am doing something wrong.

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Either the source that I am using is no good (iPhone, OR Bluetooth receiver) or I am doing something wrong.
What exact cable and/or adaptors were you using from the iphone to the LSR305s?
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What exact cable and/or adaptors were you using from the iphone to the LSR305s?
Here is the cable I am using.



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^That cable should work unless one of the plugs isn't pushed in all the way [or the iphone jack is broken from wear and tear and has lost its ground contact], which could cause a relative phase reversal: each speaker playing by itself would sound fine however when both are played simultaneously, in stereo, the center image would sound diffuse, without focus, and bass shy (thin and tinny). Here's a good video test for it:

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Yes. Maybe. Other speakers like B&W and DefTech that I auditioned all sounded good. Even though they were not my preference. The difference was minor. But these lsr305 just not sound good.

I am as astonished as you may be. Either the source that I am using is no good (iPhone, OR Bluetooth receiver) or I am doing something wrong.

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I needed powered speakers for my garage for detail day. I had LSR308s here for all of a weekend before they went back. It was a store demo so well broken in. Tried with the understanding that they would be coming back, and if I liked them I'd order a new set. They sound very different than my B&W 685S2s, but I disliked the 308s just as intensely. So you're not the only one.
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^That cable should work unless one of the plugs isn't pushed in all the way [or the iphone jack is broken from wear and tear and has lost its ground contact], which could cause a relative phase reversal: each speaker playing by itself would sound fine however when both are played simultaneously, in stereo, the center image would sound diffuse, without focus, and bass shy (thin and tinny). Here's a good video test for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUT6ZhFdLkA
Thanks. I did check and also played one speaker at a time. But thank you for this file. It will be useful.

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^That cable should work unless one of the plugs isn't pushed in all the way [or the iphone jack is broken from wear and tear and has lost its ground contact], which could cause a relative phase reversal: each speaker playing by itself would sound fine however when both are played simultaneously, in stereo, the center image would sound diffuse, without focus, and bass shy (thin and tinny). Here's a good video test for it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUT6ZhFdLkA
BTW, you had mentioned that you knew Roy Allison (RIP). How did you know him, if you don't mind me asking? I enjoyed his creation Allison CD7 for a long time and am planning to refurbish it one of these days.

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I needed powered speakers for my garage for detail day. I had LSR308s here for all of a weekend before they went back. It was a store demo so well broken in. Tried with the understanding that they would be coming back, and if I liked them I'd order a new set. They sound very different than my B&W 685S2s, but I disliked the 308s just as intensely. So you're not the only one.
If one likes a very highly colored speaker such as the B&W 685 S2, a less colored speaker may be less preferred.

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The width of the listening sweet spot isn't very important to me [I'm the sole listener in a fixed chair] but still it's interesting that people are making binaural listening test demos like this. Note: YOU MUST USE HEADPHONES to properly listen to any binaural recording properly. The room this was recorded in also doesn't sound very good.

I'm not a fan of this kind of music but I guess since they could only use royalty free stuff that's free to post on YT without copyright infringement we can't complain.

Considering how inexpensive these are I think I may pick up a third just in case some day I need a center.

EDIT: OOPS. Wrong video. Now fixed, I think.

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If one likes a very highly colored speaker such as the B&W 685 S2, a less colored speaker may be less preferred.
It is not a question of coloring. These lsr305 just don't have any clarity in them. They sound like all instruments are just merged into one with limited clarity to each. Also imaging is not that pronounced. At least in my testing. But again it may be my setup.

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BTW, you had mentioned that you knew Roy Allison (RIP). How did you know him, if you don't mind me asking? I enjoyed his creation Allison CD7 for a long time and am planning to refurbish it one of these days.
Roy was a friend of my family and at one point, decades before his speaker company, a colleague of my father.

Let me guess, the edge surround foam on your CD7s' woofers has cracked and decayed, right? Interestingly I once asked Roy why he continued to use foam surrounds on his woofers instead of butyl rubber which isn't nearly as susceptible to UV / environmental damage as foam is. His answer was that foam was lighter and had much better responsiveness to the input signal including measurably lower distortion, plus although it didn't last as long it still easily exceeded the 5 year warranty by almost double. [Try to keep them in the shadows, not sunlight.]

The CD7 was great. My ex had the smaller CD6s which in Europe were called "Le Cube" for obvious reasons.
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