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post #511 of 711 Old 05-23-2020, 01:43 PM
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The differences between the Infinity Reference line and the Revels below $2k are going to be minor - some refinement and neutrality in the Revels, mostly. Same company, similar overall design goals, different target markets.
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question for u guys..or anyone who knows the difference.

if u have a full infinity ref 5.2 setup like i do:
•L/R-r253
•center-rc252 (i also have a new rc263 in storage)
•surround-rs152
•subs-2 r12’s

if u could still find a set of the R263’s but they cost $500 each would u pay the extra $1k to upgrade from the r253’s??

and at that point i’d switch the center to the rc263.


or would u just keep the r253’s, still switch the center to the larger rc263 an save 1k or upgrade the subs instead???

(i have room for the larger center but hate how it doesn’t match the r152’s and its larger then the L/R)


will the 263’s be a a big difference?
all the info an reviews about how amazing the reference towers are it’s about the 263’s.

i’d appreciate any helpful info and options guy

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question for u guys..or anyone who knows the difference.

if u have a full infinity ref 5.2 setup like i do:
•L/R-r253
•center-rc263
•surround-rs152
This is my setup. You need to swap that center out for the larger one ASAP IMHO. It's the most important speaker in a multi channel setup.


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if u could still find a set of the R263’s but they cost $500 each would u pay the extra $1k to upgrade from the r253’s??
Absolutely not unless my seating distance and listening levels were so extreme that the larger enclosure and driver size warranted it based on output.




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or would u just keep the r253’s, still switch the center to the larger rc263 an save 1k or upgrade the subs instead???
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(i have room for the larger center but hate how it doesn’t match the r152’s and its larger then the L/R)
Doesnt need to match the effects speakers and I personally like the slimness of the 253 towers.


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will the 263’s be a a big difference?
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There's measurements out there on the 253's.

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This is my setup. You need to swap that center out for the larger one ASAP IMHO. It's the most important speaker in a multi channel setup.




Absolutely not unless my seating distance and listening levels were so extreme that the larger enclosure and driver size warranted it based on output.






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Doesnt need to match the effects speakers and I personally like the slimness of the 253 towers.




Nope.




There's measurements out there on the 253's.

thanks man,
that’s kinda where i was leaning but the temptation was strong.

honestly it’s mostly an ocd thing..

i’m gonna get the rc263 setup this week.
i just have to move my tv wall mount up 2 more inches
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thanks man,
that’s kinda where i was leaning but the temptation was strong.

honestly it’s mostly an ocd thing..

i’m gonna get the rc263 setup this week.
i just have to move my tv wall mount up 2 more inches
Welcome. Yeah it's a big center speaker for sure. Lighter than my Chane A2.4 though.

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thanks man,
that’s kinda where i was leaning but the temptation was strong.

honestly it’s mostly an ocd thing..

i’m gonna get the rc263 setup this week.
i just have to move my tv wall mount up 2 more inches
Agreed. Get the RC263 but pass on the towers if they're going to run you $1000.
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Agreed. Get the RC263 but pass on the towers if they're going to run you $1000.

10-4

i’ll get the rc263 out of the closet now..

i called svs an plan on spending the $ on the pc2000 instead.
i’ll sell 1 r12 and hold the other

thanks for advice
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Hello Everyone.. I just bought the R162 pair and RC252 center. I cannot wait till it arrives this sunday. I am a huge fan of the "audiophile" sound which is very bright and detailed and airy. I was saving up for revels but I somehow stumbled upon this thread and found a much cheaper alternative.. if i can call it that.

I wish someone could post a sound demo on youtube showing these off. I know youtube sound demos can be worthless but I have to say I do get a kick out of them sometimes with my Audeze LCDX's. While i'm waiting for my packages to arrive can any one of you post a sound demo to youtube? thanks (youtube doesnt have a single sound demo)

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Hello Everyone.. I just bought the R162 pair and RC252 center. I cannot wait till it arrives this sunday. I am a huge fan of the "audiophile" sound which is very bright and detailed and airy.
I think the Infinity Reference series is going to get you closer to that than Revel.
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So I previously bought several pairs of Infinity RS152's for an Atmos setup. I've since decided to configure my surrounds for Auro-3D and now I have a decision to make. My main surrounds are big Polk LSiM 702's and if I put my Infinity RS152 above them for surround heights, I'm worried they are not going to be a good match. Auro-3D uses surrounds differently - seemingly using the height channels as an extension of the main level, so it sounds like timbre matching is going to be more important. So, do I test out the Infinitys or find something of a closer match...

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I had the Polk LSI surround speakers and could never quite get them to sound right as a surround, ended up ditching them for some JBLs and now using Revel M105s as my room seems to work better with direct sound verse the diffused approach of the LSI. My 105s sounds leagues better than the LSI as a rear surround in my setup. You will have an issue as the LSI is a dipole speaker and the 152 is a direct unless you have a switch in the LSI. Why don't you just use the 152s for the rear surround as well as height.
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I got the LSiM 702's for only $400/pair on closeout...so I don't think I can touch that with anything with Revel's name on it.

The RS152 is a bipole speaker, with two tweeters on the front faces and the woofer firing into the wall.

The LSiM 702 are also bipole speakers, which should be fine because they are only a few feet from our seats and I want to avoid the speaker-in-the-ear effect. The midrange and tweeter fire directly at the seats and the bass driver is on the front face of the speaker so they are more of a direct-firing design than most bipole surrounds. With that and the low-profile in a tight space they were the most attractive speaker I could find. There is no other speaker that substantial with that low of a profile, especially not around what I paid.

I think it's more likely I'd find something to match the Polks since those are a much more substantial speaker with a fuller sound and worthy of keeping up with the fronts in the 1st layer.

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Picked up my RC263 and R162 yesterday. I haven’t run MutEQ yet or measured with REW, but I can say that they do sound cleaner and dialog is more clear vs my Kef Q100 doing L/R duty and the Q200c.

I definitely like what I hear so far. Looking forward to hearing more during movie weekend!

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Picked up my RC263 and R162 yesterday. I haven’t run MutEQ yet or measured with REW, but I can say that they do sound cleaner and dialog is more clear vs my Kef Q100 doing L/R duty and the Q200c.

I definitely like what I hear so far. Looking forward to hearing more during movie weekend!
Mine had a big win the other day. I only have the RC263 in place in the center. Still have the Klipsch Quintet SLs on the sides. I sleep in the HT most night because it's the basement and I get up at 3am for work. I know rough life having a 125" screen in my "Bedroom" Needless to say because I am going to sleep I turn the volume way down and sub off and watch movies I have seen a million times. My Harmony remote has a sleep timer that turns it all off for me. OK on to the win

Lego Batman Movie is one of the movies I watch to go to sleep. At the low volumes I set it at for going to sleep I can not hear The Jerry Maguire scene when Batman is in his home theater. I can hear everything up to it and Batman laugh after it but Tom Cruise's voice does not come through. I don't care because I am going to sleep. Threw it on the other night and actually heard "You complete me..." Never has a truer line been said in a movie regarding this center channel. I am sold.
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Got the RC263 this week. Lovin it so far! a good test is with Westworld - there is so much whispering... and most importantly, the wife is noticing greater clarity of dialog! Just need to figure out how to mount this beast

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The RC263 has been pumping out all kinds of new noises for me as well. Received mine last week and it's been excellent across the board (even with the terrible audio through most of the DirecTV channels). Would love to pick up the RS152 the next time they go on sale to replace the Polk owm3 I have as surrounds.
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When I went on the harmon website the Bigger Center channel was out of stock *RC263 and I was stuck with the smaller center *RC252. Is the bigger center a way better speaker then its smaller brother? If it is then I will buy it when it goes back on sale if i have to, and sell the smaller center on ebay or something. What do you guys think? am i okay with the smaller center? I just want the clearest dialog and if that means upgrading I will.
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When I went on the harmon website the Bigger Center channel was out of stock *RC263 and I was stuck with the smaller center *RC252. Is the bigger center a way better speaker then its smaller brother? If it is then I will buy it when it goes back on sale if i have to, and sell the smaller center on ebay or something. What do you guys think? am i okay with the smaller center? I just want the clearest dialog and if that means upgrading I will.
The 252 is fine but the 263 is a great center.
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The 252 is fine but the 263 is a great center.
Well then does anyone know when I should check the website for the next sale?
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Well then does anyone know when I should check the website for the next sale?
Make a Slickdeals notification for any Infintiy Reference sales.
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When I went on the harmon website the Bigger Center channel was out of stock *RC263 and I was stuck with the smaller center *RC252. Is the bigger center a way better speaker then its smaller brother? If it is then I will buy it when it goes back on sale if i have to, and sell the smaller center on ebay or something. What do you guys think? am i okay with the smaller center? I just want the clearest dialog and if that means upgrading I will.

ive had the rc252 for 1 year an 2 days..i originally bought both the rc263 and the rc252 a year ago (263 cost $150, sale and 20% off) then put the 263 in the back of my closet due to its massive size and my ocd since it didn’t match my R253 tower.
never even tested it..

well i went ahead an got the 263 out yesterday since i actually wanted to test it (ppl in the forum recommended it) since i’ve been having problems with not clear dialogue and voices.

best decision i’ve ever made!!!!

i really think it’s a game changer for movies, so much more clear and detailed.

i’ll never use that 252 again.
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Part of the Infininty group now. Shipping from Harman was a nightmare, but the last items came in last Saturday. Been wanting to move from a sound bar without breaking the bank. This last sale was enough incentive.

RC263 center
R162 x4
RS152 height atmos
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Denon X1600

I'll replace the R162 L/R with the R253 if I can catch them in stock on the next sale.

Quite pleased so far. Haven't had a chance to tweak the system much, but voice clarity is noticeably better (my primary reason for an upgrade) and obviously fuller overall sound.

One thing I'm not sure will be very beneficial is the atmos height. I have an open floor plan and 22' cathedral ceilings. I have no option but to place them on the front wall, but I can get them up around 10' and angle down to the primary listening location. I thought it worth a shot at the price for the RS152 during the sale. Hope to get them installed this coming weekend.

I did have to change the design on my TV stand I just started. That center is HUGE. Fortunately I just started the cutting phase of the build and hadn't done any routing or pocket holes yet.
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I had some time yesterday to listen to my newly acquired R162s. I've been running an RC263 for awhile, so I was already familiar with the sound signature. I didn't spend a lot of time comparing them to the Chane A1.4s, which I've been using upfront for almost two years, because I had already decided to try the Infinitys until the Chane L3s are available.

I need to spend some more time with them, but I'm very impressed so far. They have a more dynamic, upfront sound compared to the more neutral Chanes--not better or worse, just different. They have a lot of clarity and detail without sounding harsh or fatiguing. Well recorded horns and cymbals can sound glorious.

I consider them well-designed and built loudspeakers, and at the insanely low sale price they are going for, they are one of the best values out there right now if you don't mind a little upper-frequency tilt in the presentation.
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Yesterday I received my Reference series 162 pair and rc252 center. I have to say I liked the sound alot. Very nice and detailed signature but the center was kind of a problem. I watched hateful eight on Netflix and was able to understand about 90% of the dialog. That 10% lost is bothering me So I have a question for the forum.
Should I wait till I can get the rc263 on sale and keep the reference series speakers or, return everything, spend more money and buy the revel concerta2 line? What would you guys do if your me? I’m learning towards keeping the speakers since I like the sound a lot. It’s just the center giving me problems.
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Just reading some of the post now it seems like a lot of you guys really like the rc263. I think I’m just gonna stick with these Reference speakers.
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Yup set up my other two this past weekend. I am now running all RC263 for LCR and it sounds nice. I still have to run the EQ on them but they sound nice as they are. Dialog is amazing.

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I’m having issues with my recent RC263 purchase. I’m not timbre matching, but overall audio is worse when adding the center vs. using my NHT front floor standers as a phantom center. Sound with the RC263 is tinny and one dimensional, I’m honestly not sure if the midrange drivers are kicking in at all.

I also picked up 162s for surround duty – Audyssey calibration on an older Denon AVR recognizes the 162s as full range and, overall, I’m happy with the sound. Audyssey is setting the center to small with a 60Hz crossover freq. Does this sound right for the RC263?

Also, anyone have any experience hard mounting speaker brackets to the 162s? I picked up this from Amazon and trying to figure out if there is any safe location – ideally on the top of the speaker – where I can screw this down. I drilled a small pilot hole about 2” back from the front of the speaker and got about ¾” of an inch deep before hitting something hard. Think it might the rear port. Any successful mounting tips would be appreciated.
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Sounds like one or more of the drivers on the rc263 isn't working/connected or your room correction has set the rc263 to something weird. Mine is anything but tiny sounding. When turned on, is th mid-range and woofers moving, can you feel anything to the touch?

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I think I have a bad unit. Just tested by swapping the 263 with one of my mains and then with one of the surrounds. All three drivers vibrate/move, but the center sound is just all tweeter. I need to put my ear right up against the woofer to hear anything and really not sure if I’m getting any significant output from the midrange.

Comparatively, I get way more balanced output from the 162 with my head about a foot away. They sound like completely different speakers. I think I’m going to swap in a 162 to test as a center then decide if I want to return or exchange the RC263. Thanks for the testing suggestion.
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