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Yeah I did hear that and that's insane. I didn't know that could happen. Couldn't that hurt your speakers? I never heard of that before.

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No it won't hurt the speakers...it's not the same thing as actual amplifier clipping.
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PSA MTM-210T's + Music = Holy F'N ****!!!
Previous speakers could turn to 0, now around 10 equals the same amount of volume but without all the crackling and hurting of ears.

Will be trying out movies this weekend.

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SPEAKERS: PSA MTM-210T L/C/R * PSA MTM-110 (2) Surrounds * S2(4) Atmos * HSU VTF-3MK4
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PSA MTM-210T's + Music = Holy F'N ****!!!

Previous speakers could turn to 0, now around 10 equals the same amount of volume but without all the crackling and hurting of ears.



Will be trying out movies this weekend.


Congrats my friend! Can I say told you so now? Lol. Ears not bleeding right?


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Congrats my friend! Can I say told you so now? Lol. Ears not bleeding right?


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No Bleeding yet but if that occurs I have only myself to blame!!!

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PSA MTM-210T's + Music = Holy F'N ****!!!
Previous speakers could turn to 0, now around 10 equals the same amount of volume but without all the crackling and hurting of ears.

Will be trying out movies this weekend.
buddy of mine came over last night and he wanted to listen to some led zeppelin (he's a drummer and loves loud music--probably already has some hearing damage honestly). put on "bring it on home" & "fool in the rain" by led zeppelin. i gave him the receiver remote to adjust the volume to whatever he wanted while i went and found some hearing protection. thank god for the room being in the basement, because if not the national guard would have been called it was so loud. these speakers are downright dangerous with the volume they can produce. but damn it sounded amazing even with hearing protection. he was speechless.


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buddy of mine came over last night and he wanted to listen to some led zeppelin (he's a drummer and loves loud music--probably already has some hearing damage honestly). put on "bring it on home" & "fool in the rain" by led zeppelin. i gave him the receiver remote to adjust the volume to whatever he wanted while i went and found some hearing protection. thank god for the room being in the basement, because if not the national guard would have been called it was so loud. these speakers are downright dangerous with the volume they can produce. but damn it sounded amazing even with hearing protection. he was speechless.
See this is the amazing thing that I keep hearing from you guys about these speakers. The fact that they can play is not that amazing, the fact that they can play loud without distorting is the amazing part. The fact they still sound good at these volumes is amazing. Count me impressed and I haven't even heard them.

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No it won't hurt the speakers...it's not the same thing as actual amplifier clipping.
Ok that's good. Thanks for the info. When I hear clipping I get nervous as most HT guys do.

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See this is the amazing thing that I keep hearing from you guys about these speakers. The fact that they can play is not that amazing, the fact that they can play loud without distorting is the amazing part. The fact they still sound good at these volumes is amazing. Count me impressed and I haven't even heard them.

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Tis the season of income tax returns! Maybe its time you hear them?
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Tis the season of income tax returns! Maybe its time you hear them?
That's already been spent on upgrading to 4k TV and bd player. Already next year though.

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@Hetfieldjames is only 45 minutes from me and he promises one day he will come listen to mine! Lol
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The PSA speakers helped make my theater feel complete. I almost hate to admit this, but this year income tax is not going to electroncis, its going to sidewalks and porches!
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The PSA speakers helped make my theater feel complete. I almost hate to admit this, but this year income tax is not going to electroncis, its going to sidewalks and porches!

I agree. Even though we say subs are the most important part of the HT, I think for me these speakers made as much of a difference if not more than going from a SVS PC12-NSD to dual V1801s, now that is saying a lot.




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I agree. Even though we say subs are the most important part of the HT, I think for me these speakers made as much of a difference if not more than going from a SVS PC12-NSD to dual V1801s, now that is saying a lot.




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my speaker upgrade (jbl l100t3's from the 1980's) to the psa towers was probably just as meaningful & impactful (if not more so) as my sub upgrade was going from dual rythmik ported 15's to the 600lbs of bass i have now. a man needs both


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PSA MTM-210T's + Music = Holy F'N ****!!!
Previous speakers could turn to 0, now around 10 equals the same amount of volume but without all the crackling and hurting of ears.

Will be trying out movies this weekend.
Have you watched any movies yet?

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PSA MTM-210T's + Music = Holy F'N ****!!!
Previous speakers could turn to 0, now around 10 equals the same amount of volume but without all the crackling and hurting of ears.

Will be trying out movies this weekend.
just be careful, these speakers can get dangerously loud. i wore some hearing protection and turned up the speakers to 0dB on the receiver and i was picking up close to 120dB @ 13' away.


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This thread has been a bit quiet lately.

Someone needs to talk me off the ledge or push me off of it

I have a dedicated HT in the basement underway wired for 7.1 (~19'x16'x8') I was originally leaning towards the v1500 and mt-110's for my LCR based solely on reputation. I want something that sounds amazing, immersive and theater like, and that's the feeling I get from reading this thread and people who rave about PSA speakers.

Okay, so now to the ledge. The mt-110sr would obviously be a great fit for a complete balanced immersive system. Its just the whole package is a bit more than I was looking to spend. I've been fishing around 'cheaper' ideas for my surrounds and trying to gauge if it would work for me.

I'd really like some stories/feedback on how much better the PSA SR's make your system, or whether it was a minor benefit and I should use that money for theater seating/AV equipment etc. I'm sure @Hopinater might have something on the subject.

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This thread has been a bit quiet lately.

Someone needs to talk me off the ledge or push me off of it

I have a dedicated HT in the basement underway wired for 7.1 (~19'x16'x8') I was originally leaning towards the v1500 and mt-110's for my LCR based solely on reputation. I want something that sounds amazing, immersive and theater like, and that's the feeling I get from reading this thread and people who rave about PSA speakers.

Okay, so now to the ledge. The mt-110sr would obviously be a great fit for a complete balanced immersive system. Its just the whole package is a bit more than I was looking to spend. I've been fishing around 'cheaper' ideas for my surrounds and trying to gauge if it would work for me.

I'd really like some stories/feedback on how much better the PSA SR's make your system, or whether it was a minor benefit and I should use that money for theater seating/AV equipment etc. I'm sure @Hopinater might have something on the subject.

Thanks
General wisdom (that I've read at least) is that your surrounds are much less important. If I were you, I'd spend way less on your surrounds and up your sub budget to the V1801 or V3601. You'll probably also seriously want to consider 2 subs for more even sound.
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A lot of guys here have had good luck with using the Volt 6s as surrounds with a PSA front stage. They are quite a bit cheaper than the 110SRs if you are into that whole DIY thing.
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FYI, If you ask Hop you will end up buying them.

Im still using my infinity beta surrounds from my old system. Sounds fine to me. Im sure its a HUGE improvement using PSA's but I have a lot of hobbies and have to shuffle my money in many different directions.
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A lot of guys here have had good luck with using the Volt 6s as surrounds with a PSA front stage. They are quite a bit cheaper than the 110SRs if you are into that whole DIY thing.
I can confirm this statement to be 100% factual
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This thread has been a bit quiet lately.

Someone needs to talk me off the ledge or push me off of it

I have a dedicated HT in the basement underway wired for 7.1 (~19'x16'x8') I was originally leaning towards the v1500 and mt-110's for my LCR based solely on reputation. I want something that sounds amazing, immersive and theater like, and that's the feeling I get from reading this thread and people who rave about PSA speakers.

Okay, so now to the ledge. The mt-110sr would obviously be a great fit for a complete balanced immersive system. Its just the whole package is a bit more than I was looking to spend. I've been fishing around 'cheaper' ideas for my surrounds and trying to gauge if it would work for me.

I'd really like some stories/feedback on how much better the PSA SR's make your system, or whether it was a minor benefit and I should use that money for theater seating/AV equipment etc. I'm sure @Hopinater might have something on the subject.

Thanks


I was quite hesitant to spend the money on the SRs as well. I have MTM 210s up front and tried some other cheaper surrounds but they could not keep up with the PSA. The volts are a good option but I am not the handy type. I then ordered the SRs to test out and I can tell you it was a noticeable difference. The surrounds actually make my mains sound better and create such an effect that I gave up the idea of a 7.2 or Atmos set up for now. They made a huge difference for me and well worth it. People here told me that but I did not believe it till I heard them. Now my surrounds, my fronts and my subs all present themselves as one big speaker. Priceless!


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I got super lucky finding my set used. But I honestly can't image not having the 110s as my surrounds. I've been in love with my ht since I went PSA.

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A lot of guys here have had good luck with using the Volt 6s as surrounds with a PSA front stage. They are quite a bit cheaper than the 110SRs if you are into that whole DIY thing.
$122 for a volt6 kit? Certainly affordable. How long would it take to build one of these suckers? I've spent the last 3 years DIY'ing my entire basement, i'm pretty worn out Getting close to the finish line and want to enjoy some movies already, lol.
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@mikeyd17, I am with @imureh on this. Get the best 5.1 system you can afford (AKA PSA) and upgrade to 7.1+ later.


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I was quite hesitant to spend the money on the SRs as well. I have MTM 210s up front and tried some other cheaper surrounds but they could not keep up with the PSA. The volts are a good option but I am not the handy type. I then ordered the SRs to test out and I can tell you it was a noticeable difference. The surrounds actually make my mains sound better and create such San effect that I gave up the idea of a 7.2 or Atmos set up for now. They made a huge difference for me and well worth it. People here told me that but I did not believe it till I heard them. Now my surroundings, my fronts and my subs all present themselves as one big speaker. Priceless!


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One way to save a little money would be to pass on the center for now. Phantom center works well except for off-axis listening. Adding a center is not a dramatic improvement. So start with 4.1 PSA 110s. Then add a 110 center later, and perhaps a second sub. Then later consider the Volts for the lesser speakers.


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Someone needs to talk me off the ledge or push me off of it

I have a dedicated HT in the basement underway wired for 7.1 (~19'x16'x8') I was originally leaning towards the v1500 and mt-110's for my LCR based solely on reputation. I want something that sounds amazing, immersive and theater like, and that's the feeling I get from reading this thread and people who rave about PSA speakers.

Okay, so now to the ledge. The mt-110sr would obviously be a great fit for a complete balanced immersive system. Its just the whole package is a bit more than I was looking to spend. I've been fishing around 'cheaper' ideas for my surrounds and trying to gauge if it would work for me.

I'd really like some stories/feedback on how much better the PSA SR's make your system, or whether it was a minor benefit and I should use that money for theater seating/AV equipment etc. I'm sure @Hopinater might have something on the subject.

Thanks

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One way to save a little money would be to pass on the center for now. Phantom center works well except for off-axis listening. Adding a center is not a dramatic improvement. So start with 4.1 PSA 110s. Then add a 110 center later, and perhaps a second sub. Then later consider the Volts for the lesser speakers.
While there are many cost cutting options available, I would suggest that eliminating the center channel is not one of them for HT use - approximately 85% of audio data is sent through the center channel; the center channel is probably the most important channel to consider when assembling a Home Theater system.

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No Bleeding yet but if that occurs I have only myself to blame!!!
I see you have the 210t for lcr are all of them behind the screen? Also how does the mtm 210t sound as a Center. That is what I am looking at. I am torn between these the Jbl 4722 and the rf 7 iii klipsch Speakers. In fact I might do 7 210t all around 3 now 2 later and 2 more next years if I go that way.
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While there are many cost cutting options available, I would suggest that eliminating the center channel is not one of them for HT use - approximately 85% of audio data is sent through the center channel; the center channel is probably the most important channel to consider when assembling a Home Theater system.


I ran my PSA without a center for a while and I could not tell that I was missing a center. These speakers are that good. In a blind test there was no way anyone could tell that there was no center either. Tom shared many experiences himself like these as well.


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For surrounds their is a Jbl scs8 coaxial speaker that has pattern of 120 x 120. A lot of people have them with thier speakers and some of the jbls list for $22,000 a pair. You can get them for $315 each. They come with brackets that you can wall mount ceiling mount aim and adjust them. So basically like a volt 8. If I go Jbl they are the ones I plan on getting.
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$122 for a volt6 kit? Certainly affordable. How long would it take to build one of these suckers? I've spent the last 3 years DIY'ing my entire basement, i'm pretty worn out Getting close to the finish line and want to enjoy some movies already, lol.
I had the first 5 speakers PSA produced, MTM 210s LCR and MT 110s as side surrounds, I advocated the 110s as the immersive experience was like nothing I've heard before, the SR version was not available at this time. You really don't know what your missing until you have it, seriously........the rest is history... I don't know of one person who went with the matching SR or MT 110s and regretted their decision........

The alternative is to go with DIY, the Volt 6 or 8, they both can play loud and clean, 93 and 94 dB sensitive, if you would rather have a 10" driver go with the V10...with the flat packs you can have the boxes glued up in a day or two regardless of what you decide to go with. You seem to be pretty handy DIY'ing your basement, these would be a breeze, completed and assembled XOs are available if you feel uncomfortable doing them your self. My advice is not to scrimp on the surrounds, you'll thank me later....
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