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I officially shipped back the other set of speakers I was auditioning today. The 210t's are staying. Next on the list is to finish the new av cabinet and get the center.
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I officially shipped back the other set of speakers I was auditioning today. The 210t's are staying. Next on the list is to finish the new av cabinet and get the center.


what were you comparing the PSA’s to?

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what were you comparing the PSA’s to?
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I officially shipped back the other set of speakers I was auditioning today. The 210t's are staying. Next on the list is to finish the new av cabinet and get the center.


For movies the PSA are hard to beat. I compared them to 4 different speakers and these sounded the best. I am 100% movies. If you have decent subs they speakers are fantastic.


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For movies the PSA are hard to beat. I compared them to 4 different speakers and these sounded the best. I am 100% movies. If you have decent subs they speakers are fantastic.


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My ht setup is in my living room so we use it for movies,music,and cable tv. I would give the sierra's the advantage with music. I would say cable tv was a draw, and I would give my psa's the advantage for movies. Ultimately, the psa's sounded good enough for my music needs. I don't mean that as a dig on the psa's, more of a compliment to the sierra's. Most of my critical listening is done with headphones anyway. The psa's are also cheaper and due to their sensitivity I won't ever need more than an avr to drive them to reference volume. I fretted and thought and thought about which set to keep as both speakers had a fairly neutral signature and were very detailed. In the end, I thought the psa's were the better bang for the buck. I really had to think long and hard to come to that conclusion though. I would have no problem recommending the ascends. Both were a noticeable step up from my svs primes.
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My ht setup is in my living room so we use it for movies,music,and cable tv. I would give the sierra's the advantage with music. I would say cable tv was a draw, and I would give my psa's the advantage for movies. Ultimately, the psa's sounded good enough for my music needs. I don't mean that as a dig on the psa's, more of a compliment to the sierra's. Most of my critical listening is done with headphones anyway. The psa's are also cheaper and due to their sensitivity I won't ever need more than an avr to drive them to reference volume. I fretted and thought and thought about which set to keep as both speakers had a fairly neutral signature and were very detailed. In the end, I thought the psa's were the better bang for the buck. I really had to think long and hard to come to that conclusion though. I would have no problem recommending the ascends. Both were a noticeable step up from my svs primes.

I've eyed the PSA's a lot over the years......has always a no go from a WAF point of view

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I've eyed the PSA's a lot over the years......has always a no go from a WAF point of view
I asked my wife for her opinion. She said both were big black boxes so she didn't care, even though the the psa's were larger. I just have to keep my mouth shut when she buys a different decorative wreath for the door or over the mantle to dress up our living room with the big black boxes
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i was torn between the same decision but ultimately rolled the dice with psa. zero regrets.

*edit* - also, i use my room almost solely for movie watching so it wasn't a really hard decision. the psa speakers will go loud enough to make you deaf if you so choose, and they definitely have that movie theater style sound which is exactly what i wanted. worrying about & nuking $700 tweeters just wasn't in the budget.
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I went looking around and came across an arm at Monoprice that has a 200mmx200mm VESA plate to attach to an arm. This particular arm has a weight rating of 85 pounds! This seemed to more than meet the need of the MT-110SR which weigh in at 34 pounds. I purchased the arms. As it turns out, they sat around on the dining room table for a while, but that was out of my hands.

I then went over to PSA's website. I spoke with Tom a bit about arms, told him what I had chosen and asked if he had known anyone to do the same. He hadn't, but that wasn't going to stop me! I asked for a discount code and he graciously obliged. I placed the order on a Sunday (January 14, 2018). Tom let me know via chat that the woofers were on backorder and wouldn't be available for about 5-10 business days. Let me tell you friends, that felt like a lifetime! Ok not really, but I have to keep you interested.

I got to work getting the mounting plate attached to the speakers. I needed to find out the minimum height I needed to mount the arms. I took a measurement from where the plate mounts to the arm to the bottom of the speaker.

After some measurements of the arm, and some math, I grabbed a level and took it to the back of the couch. I used the level to create a mark on the wall indicating the top of the couch. I then measured up to where I wanted to install the bottom of the arm's mount. I found the stud, and drilled a large hole at only the top screw hole of the mount. I put the speaker on the arm and this is what I got.

This was way too close to the back of the couch. Someone would definitely hit their head if I left the mount there. Luckily, since I only drilled in the top hole of the arm, all I had to do was unscrew the arm and move it up! That hole became the hole for the bottom of the arm. This moved the arm up 7". It turned out to be perfect!
So you're using a TV swivel mount for your rears, very interesting. With this product, would you be able to mount it flush with the wall, and then swivel a couple inches without the speaker poking out into the room too much?
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Any update on the smaller form factor speakers?
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Any update on the smaller form factor speakers?
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Last I talked to Tom this was a project that had been pushed back (perhaps due to the S7201). Now that's been completed we're all hoping that Jim can find the time to get back around to finishing the smaller speakers. When I was up there last February Jim showed me a mock up of the speaker but that was the last I think anyone has heard about it. I hope he didn't kill the project.
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Last I talked to Tom this was a project that had been pushed back (perhaps due to the S7201). Now that's been completed we're all hoping that Jim can find the time to get back around to finishing the smaller speakers. When I was up there last February Jim showed me a mock up of the speaker but that was the last I think anyone has heard about it. I hope he didn't kill the project.
He was almost done until Tom told him to ditch it for the V14400
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And in-wall/on-wall with in-ceiling please

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seriously. it annoys me that even if i spring for the side & rear spa surrounds that they don't offer anything for my heights

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seriously. it annoys me that even if i spring for the side & rear spa surrounds that they don't offer anything for my heights
I can’t belive they don’t make a 3 inch speaker to fit in the cubby of the shelf on my desk - I am so mad at them!!!! 😀😮🙃

There isn’t a huge market for atmos speakers right now. It is probably a fraction of a percent of people that have an atmos system. They likely would spend a lot of money developing these and sell few.
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I can’t belive they don’t make a 3 inch speaker to fit in the cubby of the shelf on my desk - I am so mad at them!!!! 😀😮🙃

There isn’t a huge market for atmos speakers right now. It is probably a fraction of a percent of people that have an atmos system. They likely would spend a lot of money developing these and sell few.
psa & jtr make the most movie-like sounding speakers for enthusiasts to purchase (imo). it really would be awesome if they added height speakers to their line-ups.
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psa & jtr make the most movie-like sounding speakers for enthusiasts to purchase (imo). it really would be awesome if they added height speakers to their line-ups.
You ‘could’ use the PSA 110’s for hieghts if you have enough room. Could also use their surrounds for overhead. I know Tom has said it before that a smaller speaker would be prices about the same as the 110’s. Not likely he would sell a ton.

JTR has the Single 8’s that could be used but they are $900. If I were doing atmos right now I would use the DIY Sound Group Volt 8’s or Volt 6’s. For about 200 each and a little work you would have incredible atmos speakers.

I just built some Volt 10’s in the ported boxes to use on my deck this summer. Took about 2 hours of assembly and another hour of painting. They look good and sound incredible. Would probabaly have to pay $600-$800 to get comparable sound quality.

I also use 2 Volt 8’s in my living room system and 4 of them in my game room as surrounds. The 8’s or 10’s could easily be used for mains.
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I've mentioned it a few times as well for those looking for a great height/atmos speaker that blends very well with PSA speakers the volts are top notch.
Add some grills, PSA logo and viola!
Super fun to build and you can get the crossovers pre assembled!
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I've mentioned it a few times as well for those looking for a great height/atmos speaker that blends very well with PSA speakers the volts are top notch.
Add some grills, PSA logo and viola!
Super fun to build and you can get the crossovers pre assembled!
all i saw is the model sti in the last pic
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Hey guys,

It’s been a while, but I just wanted to stop by and drop some positive vibes for the PSA speakers. Although I’ve been quiet around here, my 210T’s have been the exact opposite...

I love these speakers, and so does my fiancé. She actually saves her favorite shows and movies to watch on these beasties, which says a ton considering she feels her cellphone speakers are adequate for most things....

I also saw some posts about smaller PSA speakers, and I too hope those get made. I used to be among the folks waiting, until I lost my patience and built some volt 6’s (very rewarding experience btw, and the timbre match is close enough I can’t tell a difference - although my craftsmanship certainly leaves something to be desired in comparison to PSA. LOL!).

Anyways, hope all is well with everyone. I’m sure all your PSA gear is rocking your worlds, just as it does mine.

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100% LOVE my 210T's for my LCR.. nice to know I can stop looking at speakers and wondering if I am missing something when it comes to sound.
Just wish they made a surround speaker, don't think the MT-110 can throw the sound around the room like my current Dipole speakers can. They are sitting directly behind me about 4 feet from my head about 6ft apart.
Also would like to look at the 110-SR for Atmos but can't at that cost per speaker.

Enough nitpicking, I am completely in love with my 210T's.

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I used to be a big fan of dipoles myself. I'm still using my old Infinity Beta Surrounds (x4), but when I purchased my 3 210's for the front stage it made my surrounds sound even better somehow. They fill the room up so well that my rear speakers really just came to life. My Betas have a switch that can take them out of dipole mode and run like a regular speaker. With my old speakers I hated the way that sounded, but paired with the 210s they now sound better this way. No idea why, but they do! I would imagine upgrading to PSA surrounds would be pretty dramatic, but I've been in love with my current sound for a few years now.
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I used to be a big fan of dipoles myself. I'm still using my old Infinity Beta Surrounds (x4), but when I purchased my 3 210's for the front stage it made my surrounds sound even better somehow. They fill the room up so well that my rear speakers really just came to life. My Betas have a switch that can take them out of dipole mode and run like a regular speaker. With my old speakers I hated the way that sounded, but paired with the 210s they now sound better this way. No idea why, but they do! I would imagine upgrading to PSA surrounds would be pretty dramatic, but I've been in love with my current sound for a few years now.
I would use the 110's for side firing surround, but don't have the space for that, which is why I have stayed with my Dipole speakers.

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Have you ever considered in-walls for surrounds? They've come a long way and might give you the option for side and rear surrounds.
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[QUOTE=drunkpenguin;55903534]Have you ever considered in-walls for surrounds? They've come a long way and might give you the option for side and rear surrounds.[/QUOTE

Can't do those with my room layout, which is why I have only had 5.1 with my surrounds being behind me.

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Got word that my media console would be done soon so I ordered a mtm210-c to go with my towers. Will update with pics once everything is setup.
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Got word that my media console would be done soon so I ordered a mtm210-c to go with my towers. Will update with pics once everything is setup.

Sweet!

What company did you end up going with for the console, and is it a custom fit/design? I’m debating building a new one...having someone else do it is less time consuming but not as fun as I enjoy casual woodwork.

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just finished putting up a piece of fabric (painters drop cloth) roughly where my faux-wall will be created to get an idea on how large my new screen will be. in the sweet spot where 16:9 & 2.35:1 content looks great i have a width of 116" & 66" tall which will yield me a ~135" acoustically transparent screen (up from the current 96" wide & 55" tall 110" screen i have now). going to talk to tom and order the third 210T tower tomorrow.

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What company did you end up going with for the console, and is it a custom fit/design? I’m debating building a new one...having someone else do it is less time consuming but not as fun as I enjoy casual woodwork.
I had a local contractor take some old barnwood he had and build one to my specs and stain it for me. Not easy finding one with a shelf big enough for a mtm 210-c.
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